1. Welcome to CowboysZone!  Join us!  Come on!  You know you want to!

You want to fix the front 7? Start looking at NT

Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by TheFinisher, Jan 27, 2011.

  1. TheFinisher

    TheFinisher Well-Known Member

    2,510 Messages
    682 Likes Received
    Many of us know that we need some work to do on the D-Line but now that Rob Ryan is here I don't think DE needs to be addressed anymore. Ratliff WILL be an End in Rob's scheme, he's just not a Nose in his defense. Once that move is announced we will have Ratliff, Igor, Bowen, and Hatcher/Spears. If you ask me, that's a pretty darn good group. What Rob will be looking for is a big Nose Tackle and we will be looking to grab one early in this draft.

    Who are some Nose Tackles that you guys like? My favorite is Phil Taylor and his stock is soaring from Senior Bowl practices. His value should be good with our 2nd rounder.
  2. realtick

    realtick Benched

    6,986 Messages
    0 Likes Received
    I'm not sure I would give him a 2nd round grade yet, but I've really liked what I've seen from Phil Taylor so far.
  3. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Bad Santa Staff Member

    61,313 Messages
    4,646 Likes Received
    I like what I see from Phil Taylor in the senior bowl practices. However I don't like that I have heard from different people that he has been a bit of a lazy guy or under achiever prior to this. Don't know if that is true but have heard it.

    Chris Neild I like, but it is bias from me as a WVU homer. He is not as big or strong as Phil but he has a motor that can not be questioned and I think he is a good player. I just don't know how much of a player he would be in the NFL.
  4. TheFinisher

    TheFinisher Well-Known Member

    2,510 Messages
    682 Likes Received
    Meh, Taylor was a highly recruited player out of HS and didn't reach expectations at Penn St. Since he transferred to Baylor he has been very good and at times dominating this season. I haven't heard that he was lazy though, so that's interesting.
  5. TheCount

    TheCount Pixel Pusher

    21,293 Messages
    1,244 Likes Received
    I haven't watched a lot of Phil Taylor but I wasn't impressed by his bowl performance at all, then come Senior Bowl people are saying he's doing great, so I don't know what to think about him at this point. It's a crap year to need a NT.
  6. Chocolate Lab

    Chocolate Lab Run-loving Dino

    33,928 Messages
    2,890 Likes Received
    I've heard it, too. A noted poster on here has insisted on it.

    But on another board there's an old coach I've talked to some who has been good friends with Art Briles for a long time, still scouts some for him, attends some Baylor practices, and knows a lot of people there. He said they've told him that Taylor's attitude got straightened out after his Penn State ordeal, and that Taylor has never been a problem and has always practiced hard.

    So I tend to believe he's not as lazy as some people claim.
  7. The Realist

    The Realist Active Member

    3,294 Messages
    9 Likes Received
    Phil Taylor reminds me of Gabe Watson who went in the 4th round.
  8. TheCoolFan

    TheCoolFan Well-Known Member

    7,345 Messages
    279 Likes Received
    Lazy or not, he must be doing something intensive in his workouts to be able to weigh 340 pounds and still be quick on his feet. At least he's out there trying to improve his stock while some guys didn't even want to attend. Anyway, some 3-4 NT prospects I like:

    Phil Taylor
    Jerrell Powe
    Kenrick Ellis
    Sione Fua

    Other guys I like for 3-4 DE:

    Nick Fairley
    Marcel Dareus
    Cameron Jordan
    Cameron Heyward
    Christian Ballard
    Jarvis Jenkins
    Cedric Thornton

    I'm not sold on Adrian Clayborn. I also find it suspicious that he didn't want to go to the Senior Bowl, especially after a quiet senior year.
  9. natesboys051

    natesboys051 New Member

    112 Messages
    0 Likes Received
    We definitely need a mammoth NT like either Phil Taylor or Kenrick Ellis on our defense who can stonewall double-teams and stuff runs up our soft middle and inside the 5yd line (goal-line defense) as well as stuff Brandon Jacobs and the other big backs (220lbs and up) in this league.
  10. TheSport78

    TheSport78 The Excellence of Execution

    8,460 Messages
    429 Likes Received
    Definitely not set at DE.

    Spears won't be back. Neither will Hatcher.

    Igor needs to be upgraded if possible. The guy really annoys me.

    Bowen is a solid player but is he a starter or just a role player? Gotta bring him back though.

    There's a pretty big need on the DL whether or not we move Ratliff to DE.
  11. TheFinisher

    TheFinisher Well-Known Member

    2,510 Messages
    682 Likes Received
    Besides the fact they both had really good Senior Bowl weeks, their college careers were very different. Taylor was a much better player.
  12. WarC

    WarC Active Member

    1,521 Messages
    0 Likes Received
    Nick Fairley is a beast. I'd love to see him in a Cowboys uniform, although he does have an awful mean streak.
  13. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

    41,860 Messages
    1,705 Likes Received
    The absolute must have for a NT is a non-stop MOTOR. If a guy even has a hint of being lazy you need to move on.
  14. Sam I Am

    Sam I Am Unfriendly and Aloof!

    31,342 Messages
    237 Likes Received
    Could we just get Wade Phillips to play NT?
  15. Sam I Am

    Sam I Am Unfriendly and Aloof!

    31,342 Messages
    237 Likes Received
    He also has a habit of not bringing it all the time. (like say, Fat Albert does)

Share This Page