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Youtube Scouting: Timmy Jernigan

Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by FuzzyLumpkins, Mar 28, 2014.

  1. TheFinisher

    TheFinisher Well-Known Member

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    He's shown the ability on film to be a penetrator, it just doesn't come with the same volume as Donald because all Donald did at Pitt was be asked to fly upfield. Elite hand usage, power and technique as well as being the rock of the defense simply isn't sexy enough for some fans, but NFL scouts and coaches will love everything he brings to the table. Marinelli probably drools over the way Jernigan consistently manhandles blockers.
  2. supercowboy8

    supercowboy8 Well-Known Member

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    When did I say I dislike him. I think he a good 1 tech just doesn't fit the scheme. That's all I said and I don't think dallas will take him at 16.

    Yes Jernigan gets in the back field but it's after he stands at the line and reads the play and qb has no where to go. Jernigan hardly ever shoots the gap and sacks the qb and cause disruption within 3 seconds.

    Never once said I dislike the player just don't think Marinelli sees him as a 1st round pick at 16.thats all I said.
  3. Tobal

    Tobal Well-Known Member

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    He got the bad rap in the championship game of being out of shape, which was dumb, sometimes you get gassed. Everyone does, especially considering they hadn,t played in a couple of months
  4. tm1119

    tm1119 Well-Known Member

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    He was actually dealing with the flu during that game.
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  5. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Brotherhood of the Beard Staff Member

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    I like him and think he could help our defense.

    However the Cowboys view him as a one tech and they have said they dont view a one tech as a first round guy in the defense. Don't know if that would apply if they traded down towards the bottom of round one.

    Listen to the last draft show video on the Cowboys site and Broaddus makes it clear that the Cowboys see him as a one tech. He says it in a way that says it is not his opinion and not his gut feeling. With the way he says it I would say he has asked and has been told.
  6. FuzzyLumpkins

    FuzzyLumpkins The Boognish

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    Broaddus keeps saying what you are saying but I believe that it has more to do with Floyd then it does to how they value positions. I accept that NT, OG, TE and S are a tier below OT, rusher, QB, WR, and CB but we were fully prepared to draft an OG. The difference was that Cooper and Warmack actually could play the position. You could not tell me Floyd showed even half the position skillset that those two did.

    They had to project Floyd and Marinelli didn't sign off but I don't think it's so cut and dry as to say no NT. I think it is more along the lines of they are not going to pay a premium pick on a projection of a second tier position. I find it hard to believe that they would not recognize the benefit that a NT drawing double teams. It would elevate Lee and Carter's games significantly if he could occupy two blockers.
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  7. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Brotherhood of the Beard Staff Member

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    You can believe what you want. It could be a smokescreen but I seriously doubt it. Which is a shame because I think he would be a starter and help this team.
  8. ThreeandOut

    ThreeandOut Well-Known Member

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    It really comes down to priorities. Marinelli knows that he will only get so many opportunities to take a DL in the first round. So when he has that opportunity, he's going to use it on either a 3 technique or a pass rushing DE. He can find the other pieces for the DL later in the draft. So if the Cowboys don't view Jernigan as a 3 technique, they aren't taking him in the first round.
  9. Tobal

    Tobal Well-Known Member

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    I really like the player and I hope Dallas comes around on him, because he could be the most impactful guy there when we pick. I mean who thought they'd take a center in the 1st so there is hope they've figured out you need really good lines.
  10. RS12

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  11. dbonham

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    he would be a good consolation prize at 16. I don't believe that they wouldn't draft a 1 tech in the 1st, would we pass on Poe in this scheme? Lotulelei? Not a chance.

    Imo we cannot wait till round 6 to get a 1 tech. If we don't have someone to draw double teams this defense is sunk. Melton needs to be one on one, and the LBs need to be uncovered. The question is, once Jernigan is double teamed, what will he do that separates him from another double teamed 1 tech? His skill and our scheme demands he be double teamed, so it matters less what he can do one on one. If he can consistently split the double team and mess up the pocket at the next level then IMO he's worth a first, but if he just holds his ground and keeps the guard occupied his role can be filled by a 3rd rounder.
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  12. xwalker

    xwalker Well-Known Member

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    If a clone of Dontari Poe was available at #16 and didn't have any mental makeup questions, then I'm fairly certain that they would take him as a 1-tech.
  13. FuzzyLumpkins

    FuzzyLumpkins The Boognish

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    Poe projects to the 3 as well as the 1. He is big but his athleticism is tremendous. It's an interesting discussion.
  14. waving monkey

    waving monkey Well-Known Member

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    dont see the Floyd comparisons at all. Jerrigan is first step faster when asked to to
  15. xwalker

    xwalker Well-Known Member

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    Even if the Cowboys already had Henry Melton and Aaron Donald I don't think they would pass on Poe even though he would have to be the 1-tech in that scenario. That's is assuming Poe passed their mental makeup evaluation.
  16. FuzzyLumpkins

    FuzzyLumpkins The Boognish

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    For a 340 lbs man to run a 4.89 is one thing but to do a 4.56 shuttle is something we may never see again. Once in a generation type ability.
  17. GloryDaysRBack

    GloryDaysRBack Well-Known Member

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    Easily could be a smokescreen. .. BB has been wrong plenty of times before
  18. xwalker

    xwalker Well-Known Member

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    Yes, he is the definition of a freak athlete.
  19. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    He tweeted this out today:

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    Alert. Possible gang member flashing signs. Has tattoos. Reportedly had cap on backwards prior to photo being taken.
  20. Sydla

    Sydla Active Member

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    But this seems like an argument for not taking him at 16. If he's a better 1 tech than 3 tech, but could at least be competent at the 3 tech, that tells me you need to find another player at that pick. You really shouldn't be taking a player at 16 and putting him at a position you don't think he's an ideal for.

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