Please Sign Dez, 1 year deal or 1 day contract?

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Not sure what you're trying to say. It was considered a terrible year for Dez, the numbers he did have being the result of volume and no one else to throw to. He was extremely ineffective.
I’m saying the difference in expectations change the ineffectiveness. As a number 4 specialty WR, his matchups and volume will change immensely and if used correctly his effectiveness has the potential to skyrocket.

If you think 69 838 and 6 tubs is so bad as a #1 that he shouldn’t even be considered as a 4, I don’t agree
 

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he had a broken leg and an Achilles problem.

you try running with that.

You're just TRYING to make excuses for an over the hill has been player who didn't have great speed to start out with and now is 31 and even slower. The last couple of seasons he played he showed he had a HUGE problem just catching the ball. If you don't think so he was within 1 drop of leading the league in drops is second from the last season and the the last season he DID lead the league in drops. In the locker room he continually complained about not getting more balls thrown to him yet he had a problem just catching them. Bryant isn't ANYWHERE close to the receiver he was his first couple of seasons when he was a real #1 receiver. The Cowboys are far better served by using that roster spot to a younger faster receiver that actually has an upside to his career than that over the hill has been Bryant. Also a younger receiver will undoubtedly have a better character than Bryant who got arrested for hitting his mother.
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I’m saying the difference in expectations change the ineffectiveness. As a number 4 specialty WR, his matchups and volume will change immensely and if used correctly his effectiveness has the potential to skyrocket.

If you think 69 838 and 6 tubs is so bad as a #1 that he shouldn’t even be considered as a 4, I don’t agree
Since it was more a volume thing, yes, I think it was bad. I'm thinking you may not be remembering how bad Dez looked that year. He was awful.
 

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I’m saying the difference in expectations change the ineffectiveness. As a number 4 specialty WR, his matchups and volume will change immensely and if used correctly his effectiveness has the potential to skyrocket.

If you think 69 838 and 6 tubs is so bad as a #1 that he shouldn’t even be considered as a 4, I don’t agree

First off name a GOOD #1 receiver that has less than 1000 yards. Second how foolish is it to try to compare Bryant who was 3 years younger prior to a achilles tendon tear who was never considered fast and now older and slower and by the way the last season he played led the league in drops and his second from his last season was 1 drop away from leading the league in drops and then have the ridiculous idea that those bad numbers for a GOOD #1 receiver would make him a value now. Not to mention that he was a locker room problem and you want to bring that back? I thank God you have zero to do with the Cowboys.
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First off name a GOOD #1 receiver that has less than 1000 yards. Second how foolish is it to try to compare Bryant who was 3 years younger prior to a achilles tendon tear who was never considered fast and now older and slower and by the way the last season he played led the league in drops and his second from his last season was 1 drop away from leading the league in drops and then have the ridiculous idea that those bad numbers for a GOOD #1 receiver would make him a value now. Not to mention that he was a locker room problem and you want to bring that back? I thank God you have zero to do with the Cowboys.
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Lmaoooo get a tissue dude calm down. I’m sorry that Dez would be an upgrade from our current #4 receiver. I know it hurts but I do offer my sincerest apologies
 

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Since it was more a volume thing, yes, I think it was bad. I'm thinking you may not be remembering how bad Dez looked that year. He was awful.
I personally think in 8-10 snaps he can give you value. I don’t think he can be explosive with the usual number of WR1 snaps and variety of routes that the position requires. But in specific spots of the field as a fourth receiver yes he can be an asset
 

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Lmaoooo get a tissue dude calm down. I’m sorry that Dez would be an upgrade from our current #4 receiver. I know it hurts but I do offer my sincerest apologies

You seriously need to lay off the booze and drugs because it's making you say such funny and stupid things. It's the year 2020 not 2014. I guess all of the teams that let Bryant sit for the 1st 9 weeks of the 2018 season were all wrong too. If the saints weren't in such a desperate mode because they lost a couple of receivers to injuries, Bryant probably would have sat the entire season and then all of 2019 too. Please check into a rehabilitation facility and get some help.
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You seriously need to lay off the booze and drugs because it's making you say such funny and stupid things. It's the year 2020 not 2014. I guess all of the teams that let Bryant sit for the 1st 9 weeks of the 2018 season were all wrong too. If the saints were in such a desperate mode because they lost a couple of receivers to injuries, Bryant probably would have sat the entire season and then all of 2019 too. Please check into a rehabilitation facility and get some help.
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:laugh::laugh: This guy is freaking out lmao. Dez could very well be a matchup problem vs #3/4 corners and linebackers in the role he would play. If you think he’s so bad that 4th corners and backers would strap him then bye lol
 

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I personally think in 8-10 snaps he can give you value. I don’t think he can be explosive with the usual number of WR1 snaps and variety of routes that the position requires. But in specific spots of the field as a fourth receiver yes he can be an asset

It doesn't make a difference if it's a #1 receiver or a #4 receiver they all run the same types of routes. The difference is on the coverage of the receivers. Second you've made a HUGE supposition that Bryant has again learned how to catch the ball again. He led the league is drops and for all anyone knows he could do it again even on the limited number of snaps a #4 receiver gets. I've said it before, you really need to check imnto some facility and get some help.
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It doesn't make a difference if it's a #1 receiver or a #4 receiver they all run the same types of routes. The difference is on the coverage of the receivers. Second you've made a HUGE supposition that Bryant has again learned how to catch the ball again. He led the league is drops and for all anyone knows he could do it again even on the limited number of snaps a #4 receiver gets. I've said it before, you really need to check imnto some facility and get some help.
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So yes or no right now end it all lol


Can Dez beat 3/4th corners and linebackers in the redzone and 3rd&short on slants and fades?
 

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I'm a big Dez fan. So much so that I'd love to see him play somewhere like the Chiefs that would utilize him well. But for those clamoring for him.....its all about nostalgia. We want to see that X in the end zone again. And why not? Its a great feeling. But if we are being realistic about the situation.

1. Dez fell off.
2. He's not a tight end.
3. He's more than likely slower than before.
4. Coming off some crucial leg injuries.
5. He was a poor fit when they cut him...more than likely a poor fit if they bring him back.
6. Loss of athleticism.
7. lack of routes

I know it sucks to hear. I didn't even want to type it. Dez is one of my favorite players ever in Dallas. And I'd imagine a lot of people in my age group would say that. I'm all for a tryout seeing what he has left....but to me Dez is bigger than some tryout. Some pity tryout just to cut him? Again?

No thanks.
 

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:laugh::laugh: This guy is freaking out lmao. Dez could very well be a matchup problem vs #3/4 corners and linebackers in the role he would play. If you think he’s so bad that 4th corners and backers would strap him then bye lol

He could be wide open and still drop the ball which is what he did the last time he had a chance. Again, go to some facility and get some help. Why would any team want to WASTE a roster spot on a has been over the hill SLOW receiver that led the league in drops when they can use that roster spot on a younger faster receiver that actually catches the ball and has an upside instead of just a lower and lower downside?
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So yes or no right now end it all lol


Can Dez beat 3/4th corners and linebackers in the redzone and 3rd&short on slants and fades?

Ive already answered that. It doesn't matter if he can and is wide open if he just drops the ball. You keep seeing the younger Bryant and keep projecting that but refuse to look at his most recent history where he led the league in drops and was 1 drop away from doing it his 2nd from his last season. Like I said the only reason you keep going on with this must be because of booze and drugs and I've said a couple of times that you really need to get help with that.
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Ive already answered that. It doesn't matter if he can and is wide open if he just drops the ball. You keep seeing the younger Bryant and keep projecting that but refuse to look at his most recent history where he led the league in drops and was 1 drop away from doing it his 2nd from his last season. Like I said the only reason you keep going on with this must be because of booze and drugs and I've said a couple of times that you really need to get help with that.
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Ok so he’s gonna get open and drop it every time? Got it.
 

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The only “yes” or “no” should be related to the team giving Dez a workout day. He must be worked out before anything else can be considered. We have a head coach, a TE coach, and a WR coach. One brief workout and Mike McCarthy would either envision an exciting role for Dez that helps the team or he doesn’t.

What won’t happen is Dez will not be signed to be a 4 or 5 receiver in the Devin Smith mode. That’s a progress stopper at his age. Those guys need to be young developing players. Dez doesn’t have to be a starter, but he has to have a unique role that makes him a starter in specific situations.
 

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https://www.yahoo.com/sports/stephen-jones-dez-bryant-texted-150028444.html Dez wants to sign a deal with the Cowboys and Stephen is discussing it in the media. The artickle goes on to say that a 1 day deal is far more conceivable.

  • Dez has passion.
  • Red Zone threat.
  • Could be a 600 yd 7 TD receiver.
  • Is open to taking on any role.
  • Would be great out of the slot.
  • A chain mover.
  • The man is a real Cowboy, born and breed.
  • Dez knew that Garrett sucked.

Dez would be a great bridge in this new offense that creates specific roles for skill players in certain down and distances. MM created schemes in GB to manufacture efficiency on 3rd downs and in the red-zone. I think Dez has been humbled and this is a chance for Dez and the Cowboys to redeem themselves. The Boys took Witten back and they should do the same for Dez. Just give the man an opportunity, he deserves that.

Go Dallas!!!

I'd be happy with that.
 

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Just checking in to see if Dez signed yet ----------> runs
 

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The only “yes” or “no” should be related to the team giving Dez a workout day. He must be worked out before anything else can be considered. We have a head coach, a TE coach, and a WR coach. One brief workout and Mike McCarthy would either envision an exciting role for Dez that helps the team or he doesn’t.

What won’t happen is Dez will not be signed to be a 4 or 5 receiver in the Devin Smith mode. That’s a progress stopper at his age. Those guys need to be young developing players. Dez doesn’t have to be a starter, but he has to have a unique role that makes him a starter in specific situations.

Having a player that can have a unique role in certain situations can possibly be a possibility IF, repeat IF that player also fills other needs like special teams too. Bryant has never played special teams and at his age now and probable slower speed for someone who didn't have good speed to start out with is a strong possibility and would be wasting a valuable roster spot that could be more help to this team than being an old one trick pony that is only used in a unique role in certain situations.

To answer your question do profesional coaches really need to see a player who's play after signing a new contract went straight down hill his last 3 seasons, who led a league stat no coach wants one of his receivers to hold, most drops, that is 31 years old and hasn't played a down in TWO complete seasons, that already has receivers that are younger and faster that can do anything the 31 year old receiver might be able to still do, to know he doesn't have to see that player work out to decide he not worth the roster spot he would be taking? Also realizing that that coach won't be looking at a player wearing glasses that shows him as a 2014 version instead of the 2020 version. Professional coaches see the names and see their stats of many many many players and make decisions to not bring them in for a workout and are happy with those decisions.
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