Do people really believe there is a better option than Dak this year?

Asklesko

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But Tom Brady though. America's Team plus America's Quarterback. Can't pass that up.
 

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Dak could get money elsewhere it isn’t personal..
Dak could get money elsewhere it isn’t personal..
And when Dak signs his deal you can find another team it isn't personal either.

A very good friend of mine went back to the original Texas team after Jerry fired his pastor coach Landry. He loves Mahomes!!

Bye Felicia
 

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A few of those teams are setting themselves up for next year's draft IMO, making way for the next Andrew Luck.

I'd say Andy Dalton is the closest record comparison to Dak. In his first 4 years Dalton went 43-23-1 compared to Dak's 40-24. His fifth year Dalton won 10 running his record to 53-26-1.

The big difference is Dalton went to the play-offs in first four years.
Dalton was the poster boy for needing a backup qb come playoff time, he was guaranteed to lose those games lol. In the end they got no where with Dalton and stuck with him way too long, I don't want us to repeat their mistakes
 

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Every day I read a new thread about that QB who is going to somehow make us look like a genius for not signing Dak.

-- Matthew Stafford? Didn't anyone learn with Aikman what happens to an immobile QB over 30 with a bad back?
-- Teddy Bridgewater? How many games has he proven himself in his career since 2015? You realize he never threw more than 14 TDs a year before his injury?
-- Philip Rivers? He almost threw more interceptions than TDs in his worst year ever. He was booed out of the stadium by his own fans his last game!
-- Tom Brady? He turns 43 this year! I repeat, he turns 43! I didn't even trust myself jumping off my truck tailgate at 43. Nevermind a QB in the NFL!
-- Insert whichever QB is the flavor of the moment.

Here we have a 26 year old QB about to enter the prime of his career. Except for one sophomore slump, he has pulled in terrific numbers and wins every year. I won't post the repeat stat threads that show how Dak lines up well against all the recent great QBs in most significant stats and wins numbers. He's not a choker in the Playoffs. He just got done with a record year on a team that had given up on its head coach, and oh yeah, he tried to close it out with more than one significant injury. We'll never see him in a rape or wife beater headline, we'll never see the team give up on him or him isolate them with his primadonna act. He IS high grade quality individual, tough as nails, and this is about as safe a contract as you can gamble on.

You want to rally against him because he won't sign for the same as the last QB free agent? Fine. But look at the competition above. His agent isn't stupid. Someone will pony up $40 million a year for Dak. He is the only one on the list who guarantees you 7 years of a franchise QB.

If you want to have a serious QB debate, why not talk about some 2nd-4th round draft pick bargains that could become the next... gulp... Dak! Just in case we have to franchise him and it goes south. I look forward to someone telling me who that next hidden draft pick is who could play Tony Romo into retirement.

We get it.. You like to pay Lomborghini prices for a Honda Accord. A used car that does the same thing for cheaper but that is beneath you.
 
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There is certainly uncertainty with Dak, but I think he's still the best option. But I will say bring in someone else as his backup just in case.

He's a risky investment at that high of a cost. Though, I dunno if I can compare him to Dalton. Those are individual cases each. Then again, he's the cheapest QB this year and we still couldn't manufacture the players to get us into the playoffs. 0 Pro Bowl players on defense, and 5 former Pro Bowlers who didn't play at Pro-Bowl caliber, and overpaid lots of players in lots of positions (Oh hey... and then there's Byron Jones). We just couldn't capitalize on the opportunity when we had a full cap to sign a world of talent with practically no money going to the Quarterback..... hope it's just an outlier year.
 
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It’s not really that we believe it. It’s that we know there are lots of better options out there. You can’t explain it to the Dak homers because the eye test means nothing to them. They love those 4000+ yard fantasy numbers.
 

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Yes, there are some crazies out there that think better options are out there than Dak. How is this news?
 

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Every day I read a new thread about that QB who is going to somehow make us look like a genius for not signing Dak.

-- Matthew Stafford? Didn't anyone learn with Aikman what happens to an immobile QB over 30 with a bad back?
-- Teddy Bridgewater? How many games has he proven himself in his career since 2015? You realize he never threw more than 14 TDs a year before his injury?
-- Philip Rivers? He almost threw more interceptions than TDs in his worst year ever. He was booed out of the stadium by his own fans his last game!
-- Tom Brady? He turns 43 this year! I repeat, he turns 43! I didn't even trust myself jumping off my truck tailgate at 43. Nevermind a QB in the NFL!
-- Insert whichever QB is the flavor of the moment.

Here we have a 26 year old QB about to enter the prime of his career. Except for one sophomore slump, he has pulled in terrific numbers and wins every year. I won't post the repeat stat threads that show how Dak lines up well against all the recent great QBs in most significant stats and wins numbers. He's not a choker in the Playoffs. He just got done with a record year on a team that had given up on its head coach, and oh yeah, he tried to close it out with more than one significant injury. We'll never see him in a rape or wife beater headline, we'll never see the team give up on him or him isolate them with his primadonna act. He IS high grade quality individual, tough as nails, and this is about as safe a contract as you can gamble on.

You want to rally against him because he won't sign for the same as the last QB free agent? Fine. But look at the competition above. His agent isn't stupid. Someone will pony up $40 million a year for Dak. He is the only one on the list who guarantees you 7 years of a franchise QB.

If you want to have a serious QB debate, why not talk about some 2nd-4th round draft pick bargains that could become the next... gulp... Dak! Just in case we have to franchise him and it goes south. I look forward to someone telling me who that next hidden draft pick is who could play Tony Romo into retirement.
I like Dak but he’s not worth more than 15 M to me. We need other players to get to the SB and that is going to cost us. Why do you think the Pats get there? It’s because the Pats watch their spending. Dak doesn’t win the come from behind games. Dak produces stats. Dak has had the advantage of having great OLs. Dak is not worth it. Get someone else.
 

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Every day I read a new thread about that QB who is going to somehow make us look like a genius for not signing Dak.

-- Matthew Stafford? Didn't anyone learn with Aikman what happens to an immobile QB over 30 with a bad back?
-- Teddy Bridgewater? How many games has he proven himself in his career since 2015? You realize he never threw more than 14 TDs a year before his injury?
-- Philip Rivers? He almost threw more interceptions than TDs in his worst year ever. He was booed out of the stadium by his own fans his last game!
-- Tom Brady? He turns 43 this year! I repeat, he turns 43! I didn't even trust myself jumping off my truck tailgate at 43. Nevermind a QB in the NFL!
-- Insert whichever QB is the flavor of the moment.

Here we have a 26 year old QB about to enter the prime of his career. Except for one sophomore slump, he has pulled in terrific numbers and wins every year. I won't post the repeat stat threads that show how Dak lines up well against all the recent great QBs in most significant stats and wins numbers. He's not a choker in the Playoffs. He just got done with a record year on a team that had given up on its head coach, and oh yeah, he tried to close it out with more than one significant injury. We'll never see him in a rape or wife beater headline, we'll never see the team give up on him or him isolate them with his primadonna act. He IS high grade quality individual, tough as nails, and this is about as safe a contract as you can gamble on.

You want to rally against him because he won't sign for the same as the last QB free agent? Fine. But look at the competition above. His agent isn't stupid. Someone will pony up $40 million a year for Dak. He is the only one on the list who guarantees you 7 years of a franchise QB.

If you want to have a serious QB debate, why not talk about some 2nd-4th round draft pick bargains that could become the next... gulp... Dak! Just in case we have to franchise him and it goes south. I look forward to someone telling me who that next hidden draft pick is who could play Tony Romo into retirement.

1. Get Brady for 3 years.

2. Draft a QB in the first round.

3. Bring new QB along under Brady and in the meantime enjoy 1 or 2 SB wins.

PS: Yes. This team is lacking only in one position.
 

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I like Dak but he’s not worth more than 15 M to me. We need other players to get to the SB and that is going to cost us. Why do you think the Pats get there? It’s because the Pats watch their spending. Dak doesn’t win the come from behind games. Dak produces stats. Dak has had the advantage of having great OLs. Dak is not worth it. Get someone else.

Dak is in a very complicated spot to me.

He is not a franchise QB. So every longterm contract over 5 mils/year (thats what i would pay a great backup QB) doesnt do this franchise any good.

FT him. Hope someone will sign him. Get those 2 first rounders and draft your QB of the future.

In the meantime get brady for 3 years and enjoy 1 or 2 SB wins.
 

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Yep

But that’s why we’re here isn’t it. To reach out to the world.

I’m not interested in every subject or post on this site. I’m not sure why some fans participate in subjects or threads all they have to add is how ridiculous subject matter it is. Lol
This post is ridiculous.
 

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Dak is in a very complicated spot to me.

He is not a franchise QB. So every longterm contract over 5 mils/year (thats what i would pay a great backup QB) doesnt do this franchise any good.

FT him. Hope someone will sign him. Get those 2 first rounders and draft your QB of the future.

In the meantime get brady for 3 years and enjoy 1 or 2 SB wins.
You suggest that Prescott isn't a franchise QB, but then say get two 1st round picks for him?
 

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Did you see the special teams and defense in each game this year?

I watched every game big dog. And yes the defense was underperforming and special teams were awful.

Still with a QB like Rodgers or Mahomes this team would have won the SB.

Because i also do think the downfall of our defense was because the ineptitude of the offense and that because of the QB position.

There were high excpectations. And those weren't just felt by us fans. Players also had those. And as a player when you watch your QB play the way he played in games like against the Jet, Bills, Patriots, Bears and especially Phily you would have lost your hope too.

Again. Expectiations werent 8-8 or just reaching the playoffs. It was SB or bust. Players had that in mind too. And when they finally accepted that this QB would not carry them to the promised land they decided that giving effort would avail to nothing.
 

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Counterpoint:

In the salary cap era, I think there have been only two QB's to win a super bowl on full fair market value contracts. Eli and Peyton. Every other team to win, including this year, was a rookie deal, on the Brady discount or kind of a reserve type picked up as filler. My elite QB making $5m per year is always going to beat your elite QB making $35m. For other positions, that's a ridiculous amount of money to acquire and keep talent.

Dallas already overpaid Zeke, Tank and Jaylon. They have an aging O-line paid very well. Add in Dak at $35m per year and the Cowboys simply don't have the cap room to put together a team that can compete with the other top organizations. Unless you think Jerry is about to become a super genius GM who can fill out a roster with great players on a shoestring budget, the Cowboys are basically screwed.

Trading Dak and picking up a FA QB probably isn't going to work. Let's be honest. That said, keeping Dak at $35m per year isn't going to work either AND it locks you in like that for . . . years. Its the Romo contract that broke up the Cowboys all over again.
 
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