Instead of worrying about paying our QB his enormous monies

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we need to set some bottom lines as to how we can be fair doing player contracts.

I think generally around the league its felt our roster is less good than touted. I agree after watching in 2018 and 2019. We talk a good talk but struggle at delivering the goods.

How can we change this?

The constant failures to advance in the playoffs much less the failures to even get there are clear warning signs we all have to watch.

While some want to applaud the 2 playoff appearances with Dak in 4 years as being reason to sign him to a new deal..

you also have to include 2 seasons under Dak that we completely missed the playoffs.

Glass half full for some, half empty for others.

So before leaps of faith are made, we need to clearly define what we will accept as being acceptable from Dak if he is Tagged.

As they did with Garrett, last season his contract was not being renewed unless the team advanced deep into the playoffs.

It was easy to understand for all parties going forward.

The team failed, the coach failed and the coach was released.

Why is the team not taking the same approach with its QB?

Why are we not saying to Dak..

"Dak, we like you and want to go forward with you as our guy..

but decisions of this magnitude have to help both sides. In considering your career records with this team so far..

for whatever the reason, you have not won many playoff games to date.

In order to pay $40 mil/yr next year and sign a 5 year deal to those numbers, you need to at least get the team to the NFC Championship in 2020.

You will receive the Exclusive Tag for that today for $32 mil/yr and if you achieve the NFC Championship in 2020..

you will receive the following year 2021 a 5 year deal for $40 mil/yr for 5 years.

Everything and more for meeting the minimum requirements of this contract. We could even include an opt-out clause after the 3rd year by either party if the parties agree to end the contract for any reason.

These guidelines would clearly define what is on the line based on reasonable expectations.

It would end the drama on these negotiations, if successful Dak bets on his ability to earn the contract, the team rewards Dak for performance, the team protects its financial numbers from spiralling when other QBs sign therir deals for more than Dak receives under this contract.

And there should be clauses in the agreement that allows the team to use his contract as a way to extend his contract as needed to free up cap to sign other players as needed.

It removes emotion from the equation and coin flips to decide it is relegated to kickoffs only.

Amari should get similar terms for his money.

This to me is fair to all parties and would work.

Just send my consulting fee invoice monies to:

Redball Express Consulting
San Antonio,Texas
Somewhere on the internet, USA.

Comments welcome.

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While some want to applaud the 2 playoff appearances with Dak in 4 years as being reason to sign him to a new deal..

you also have to include 2 seasons under Dak that we completely missed the playoffs.
The kid's only played 4 seasons and you're knocking him for not taking the Cowboys to the playoffs each season?! Taking this team at all into the playoffs under Clapper is an accomplishment, especially when a qb does it in his rookie season.

There's hall of famers who've missed the playoffs double digits during their entire career of playing but yet Dak gets ridiculed for not making each one in only 4 years while he's still a quarterback on a rookie salary/contract?!

You're a mean one Mr. Grinch. :laugh:
 

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Absolutely. They would already have a deal except for the agent. So suspect the agent would object to any hard floor accomplishments put in place since it would be detrimental to his players getting more money than earned.

Putting in bonuses to make up the difference in salary would be one way but the agent is not going to want the additional gamble that his client doesn't play to that level.

Remember the old riddle, "What do you call 100 lawyers at the bottom of the ocean?"

(a good start)
 

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we need to set some bottom lines as to how we can be fair doing player contracts.

I think generally around the league its felt our roster is less good than touted. I agree after watching in 2018 and 2019. We talk a good talk but struggle at delivering the goods.

How can we change this?

The constant failures to advance in the playoffs much less the failures to even get there are clear warning signs we all have to watch.

While some want to applaud the 2 playoff appearances with Dak in 4 years as being reason to sign him to a new deal..

you also have to include 2 seasons under Dak that we completely missed the playoffs.

Glass half full for some, half empty for others.

So before leaps of faith are made, we need to clearly define what we will accept as being acceptable from Dak if he is Tagged.

As they did with Garrett, last season his contract was not being renewed unless the team advanced deep into the playoffs.

It was easy to understand for all parties going forward.

The team failed, the coach failed and the coach was released.

Why is the team not taking the same approach with its QB?

Why are we not saying to Dak..

"Dak, we like you and want to go forward with you as our guy..

but decisions of this magnitude have to help both sides. In considering your career records with this team so far..

for whatever the reason, you have not won many playoff games to date.

In order to pay $40 mil/yr next year and sign a 5 year deal to those numbers, you need to at least get the team to the NFC Championship in 2020.

You will receive the Exclusive Tag for that today for $32 mil/yr and if you achieve the NFC Championship in 2020..

you will receive the following year 2021 a 5 year deal for $40 mil/yr for 5 years.

Everything and more for meeting the minimum requirements of this contract. We could even include an opt-out clause after the 3rd year by either party if the parties agree to end the contract for any reason.

These guidelines would clearly define what is on the line based on reasonable expectations.

It would end the drama on these negotiations, if successful Dak bets on his ability to earn the contract, the team rewards Dak for performance, the team protects its financial numbers from spiralling when other QBs sign therir deals for more than Dak receives under this contract.

And there should be clauses in the agreement that allows the team to use his contract as a way to extend his contract as needed to free up cap to sign other players as needed.

It removes emotion from the equation and coin flips to decide it is relegated to kickoffs only.

Amari should get similar terms for his money.

This to me is fair to all parties and would work.

Just send my consulting fee invoice monies to:

Redball Express Consulting
San Antonio,Texas
Somewhere on the internet, USA.

Comments welcome.

:laugh:
2 seasons under Dak where the Cowboys completely missed the playoffs??? How so? They missed the playoffs both years (2017 & 2019) by 1 game. How is that "completely" missing the playoffs?
 

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The kid's only played 4 seasons and you're knocking him for not taking the Cowboys to the playoffs each season?! Taking this team at all into the playoffs under Clapper is an accomplishment, especially when a qb does it in his rookie season.

There's hall of famers who've missed the playoffs double digits during their entire career of playing but yet Dak gets ridiculed for not making each one in only 4 years while he's still a quarterback on a rookie salary/contract?!

You're a mean one Mr. Grinch. :laugh:

I am mean..

:angry:

Here's the deal with me..

Dak has improved the team but unlike the QBs he now competes against in the NFL.

like Mahomes and Jackson, Garapolo and a few others who have entered the league
..

Dak had his window to excel and did in 2016 but has regressed ever since.

He is debated all over the TV networks and on line as to his real value and if Dallas has a clue as to how to correctly decide what to do with Dak

For years I used to just disregard those sources I did not agree with as unreliable and mis-informed only to find there was alot of truth there and becuz I did not agree..

mostly from blind loyalty to the Cowboys..

I would have to repeatedly admit I was just whistling in the dark.

They are more right than I was and year after year ate humble pie.

25 years of Jerrah serving humble pie to his loyal fans makes you want a different flavor of pie.

So as far as Dak is concerned, I just have not seen his play warrant his money demands. I do not want more Jerrah pie with my coffee as I have to wait for Dak to measure up.

We had to do the same thru the years with all our QBs. Don Meredith, Craig Morton, Rodger Staubach, Danny White, Troy Aikman, etc.

They played 3-4 years before they either took command of the team as QB..

or they were moved on from by the team.

Romo was the only one I remember as staying so long at QB without having the playoff records to go with their position as QB.

It was a stupid mistake on the teams part to do that. And we are just about to repeat it all again with Dak if we resign him at the numbers being bounced around.

It's bad enough to pay him and he does not meet expectations like with Kirk Cousins..

but imagine if he is injured like the Commanders QB from KC.

It's a concern. Dak has his shoulder injury which he had in college and now has it in the NFL.

This in a real world increases risk as the QB, not make you want to add more guaranteed money to his deal.

It will all work itself out. I am not used to spending millions like Jerrah obviously can and does.

My bad..obviously.

:mad:
 

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2 seasons under Dak where the Cowboys completely missed the playoffs??? How so? They missed the playoffs both years (2017 & 2019) by 1 game. How is that "completely" missing the playoffs?
It's a tough hair to split.

But as Bill Parcells used to say..

"You are what your record says you are".

I miss Parcells..no?

He could be so blunt.

I liked him when he called Romo..

"Romo is a coach killer..."

"If you want me to cook the meal, you have to at least let me buy the groceries".
 

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What this FO lacks is a plan like Belichick has been following for years. He allocates to positions based on the importance to his needs and that can change as the league began to morph into passball, he changed some of his D allocation around to put more on the secondary. When he traded Chandler Jones and Jamie Collins, he knew they were going to break his limit at that position. He's been doing this for a long time going back to Deion Branch in 06. He didn't even try and tag Trey Flowers because that was over the limit, just let him walk. He still had the top ranked D.

He knows there has to be a plan and the discipline to follow it, not loving any players including his QB that he would have traded if he hadn't taken the deal for 15M. His plan is dynamic and he's constantly looking it over and evaluating. He knew going into the last season the areas of concern for him this season.

Is this speculation on my part? Of course it is but why is he always ahead of the game and he's the only one. Do you think he would get himself where the Rams are now and the Cowboys getting close to? If you don't fit into his plan, he doesn't even deal with you, off you go. He didn't even attempt to negotiate with a DE as good as Lawrence.

He is really the only one that I am pretty sure does it this way, others do not have the discipline and weren't we all scratching our heads at those above trades when he pulled them. OK, he's finally screwed the pooch, only then he ends up back in the AFCCG or SB.

It's a chess master playing against a bunch of checkers players because he's a strategy player and plans on being relevant every season. Just watch that Niners D start to come apart when the bills come due.

I am not suggesting they could be as good as he is because they lack the discipline, they like their guys. But they've already made mistakes that are going to have to be overcome with some damned fine drafting and they haven't done that in 3 years.
 

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Good coaching will change all this.
Better coaching should get better results but this thing about this team being that talented, that's a myth. The O is talented, as it is right now, the D and ST are not.

Having all of these FA's up does do one thing, it makes them make some changes instead of sitting back and waiting for it to happen with the same players expecting them all to improve.
 

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It's a tough hair to split.

But as Bill Parcells used to say..

"You are what your record says you are".

I miss Parcells..no?

He could be so blunt.

I liked him when he called Romo..

"Romo is a coach killer..."

"If you want me to cook the meal, you have to at least let me buy the groceries".


I'm not trying to keep anybody happy. Bill Parcells

The only players I hurt with my words are the ones who have an inflated opinion of their ability. I can't worry about that. Bill Parcells
 

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Lol. It's all good dear. We all have our opinions and I respect yours as you do mine. I was just being ornery. @Corso told me to do so when replying to our Redball Express. And yes, I listen to what he says. :lmao:
Me too.

He has an air fryer and sits up late nights eating chicken wings and watching old videos of Cowboy games on Youtube.

I understand he is independently wealthy and does not go to work in the morning anymore.

Quiet the life he has.

:omg:
 

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Actually I watch movies like R.O.T.O.R. and Robo Vampire late at nights.
I have problems.
What you need to do is go to GamesAreMyLife.com and sign up to test their games.

For every game you play you get a voucher to play a video game at Buster's and if you win there..

you get vouchers for 3 chicken wings for a dollar.

I know what you like, bro. Try the mango vampire sauce. Its evilly good.

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What you need to do is go to GamesAreMyLife.com and sign up to test their games.

For every game you play you get a voucher to play a video game at Buster's and if you win there..

you get vouchers for 3 chicken wings for a dollar.

I know what you like, bro. Try the mango vampire sauce. Its evilly good.

:thumbup:
I will... look into it. Lol.
 

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What this FO lacks is a plan like Belichick has been following for years. He allocates to positions based on the importance to his needs and that can change as the league began to morph into passball, he changed some of his D allocation around to put more on the secondary. When he traded Chandler Jones and Jamie Collins, he knew they were going to break his limit at that position. He's been doing this for a long time going back to Deion Branch in 06. He didn't even try and tag Trey Flowers because that was over the limit, just let him walk. He still had the top ranked D.

He knows there has to be a plan and the discipline to follow it, not loving any players including his QB that he would have traded if he hadn't taken the deal for 15M. His plan is dynamic and he's constantly looking it over and evaluating. He knew going into the last season the areas of concern for him this season.

Is this speculation on my part? Of course it is but why is he always ahead of the game and he's the only one. Do you think he would get himself where the Rams are now and the Cowboys getting close to? If you don't fit into his plan, he doesn't even deal with you, off you go. He didn't even attempt to negotiate with a DE as good as Lawrence.

He is really the only one that I am pretty sure does it this way, others do not have the discipline and weren't we all scratching our heads at those above trades when he pulled them. OK, he's finally screwed the pooch, only then he ends up back in the AFCCG or SB.

It's a chess master playing against a bunch of checkers players because he's a strategy player and plans on being relevant every season. Just watch that Niners D start to come apart when the bills come due.

I am not suggesting they could be as good as he is because they lack the discipline, they like their guys. But they've already made mistakes that are going to have to be overcome with some damned fine drafting and they haven't done that in 3 years.

I don't think the plan is the problem. The problem has been execution specifically drafting on defense particularly on the line.
 
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