Do people really believe there is a better option than Dak this year?

[atlantacowboy]

First off it would help your arguemnet A LOT if you had your facts right. Prescott had 30 TD passes last season. I also see that you're another one that places all the blame on the QB and doesn't put any blame on the defense failed to get the offense the ball in good field position to start the vast majority of the drives or special teams that either didn't give the ball to the offense with good field position or put additional pressure on the defense by allowing other teams to get good field position. Also the Cowboys as a team led the ENTIRE league in drops. Yes it's just so much easier to put all the blame on Prescott for the record they had instead of accepting the fact that it's a team sport and the failure of many players beside Prescott contributed as much or more than Prescott's efforts and the record they had.
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Dak had 22 TD passes in 2 of his 4 seasons and 23 as a rookie. His 30 TD passes last year are hardly proof of improvement. You gonna pay him based on his fluffed up stats on an 8-8 team playing from behind against anyone good?

QB is the most important position on the field, and its not even up for debate. It is a self evident fact reflected on the NFL player salary totem pole.

Is it ALL Dak's fault? No, but thats hardly a reason to pay him 35+ million per year and leave the team unable to address other positions in a meaningful way. You say its a team sport, right?

 

[gjkoeppen]

Dak had 22 TD passes in 2 of his 4 seasons and 23 as a rookie. His 30 TD passes last year are hardly proof of improvement. You gonna pay him based on his fluffed up stats on an 8-8 team playing from behind against anyone good?

QB is the most important position on the field, and its not even up for debate. It is a self evident fact reflected on the NFL player salary totem pole.

Is it ALL Dak's fault? No, but thats hardly a reason to pay him 35+ million per year and leave the team unable to address other positions in a meaningful way. You say its a team sport, right?

Gee even grade school math says 30 is an improvement over 22 or 23. Yes the QB is the most important position and here's another fact. The cost of QB salaries rise a much faster rate than any other position and those costs go up EVERY year. The constant comparing to other QB's who signed contracts in previous years when the cost for those QB's in those years was less than what the price has moved to today is foolishness. Why don't you compare what Aikman made to what the costs are today while your it. How would you like it if people that aren't even working for the same company or have anything to do with your company started to whine about you possibly getting a raise?
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[CowboysFaninHouston]

Of course, i'm focused on this past year b/c a QB is supposed to progress from year 3 to 4. Dak did not progress. Should we pay based on 2016 when he was working with half the playbook? Should we ignore how bad he was in 2018 prior to the arrival of Amari Cooper? Should we ignore his putrid road performances las year and reward him with elite QB money when he clearly is not an elite QB?

He had the same HC all 4 years so you can eliminate garret as a factor when looking at Dak over 4 seasons.

You want to build the defense? How do you do that with Dak making 35+ million and cooper making 20 million..........

so how about Stafford? .Peyton Manning? Russell Wilson? Phillip Rivers? Matt ryan? Cam Newton? Aaron Rodgers, all of whom had less wins in the 4th year than their 3rd year....should they have been paid on their last year of their performance or prior?

and how do you know he was working with half the playbook? I think you randomly pull that out of your arse to argue.

and should we look at Brady whose performance this year was awful, given he didn't have Gronk? what about Rodgers without any weapons? didn't brees performance drop when he lost Thomas to injury? and where does Amari Cooper rank among WRs in the league?

I can go through the road performance of all these other QBs. and their performance against winning teams. its already been posted about 10 times.

and he has had the same HC for 4 years...and this head coach is directly responsible for putrid performance of this team over the 4 years. in the rookie year, he got lucky, garrett didn't have much time screwing with him and we went 13-3. how many games did garrett cost us over the past 4 years. you still avoiding....and I will continue to remind you to answer it. and Dak's QB performance has improved over the past 4 years.

and you still are avoiding answering the question of what the other options are because you have no answer. What's the alternative? what's your solution? if you have none, then all you are doing is biitching and complaining and probably your agenda is to just complain about Dak and spin things. otherwise let us hear your QB options that would lead to a winning formula for the cowboys.

the $35 mill is the going rate in the market for top 10 QBs. last year it was about 33, the year before about 30 and the year before that around 27....its the market....

come on dude, you have been given 4 or 5 opportunities to come up with a winning QB formula, and you continuously avoid. and its obvious given your last two responses that you put the onus of winning just on the offense and excuse the coaching, defense and special teams from everything that has to do with winning....Dak has a 40-26 record in the past 4 years. who is better?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Oh look, Jumping to conclusions and pulling crap out of your butt with yet another poster. Can’t you just discuss something without making stuff up? You’ve missed the mark in attempting to describe Atlanta. Badly missed the mark.

well, he is kind of right. everyone including you squarely puts the 8-8 record on Dak and is excusing everybody else from the debacle in 2019. yet, you all also dismiss the 13-3 record and give credit to everybody else. so in your expert opinion all the wins and losses are on offense and at that its all the QB and nothing else.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Another attempt by the grade school drug infest little boy who just rambles on with blah blah bah. Now I'm got to ask you and I'm going to quote the entire comment where I said ANYTHING about Atlanta.

"First off it would help your argument A LOT if you had your facts right. Prescott had 30 TD passes last season. I also see that you're another one that places all the blame on the QB and doesn't put any blame on the defense failed to get the offense the ball in good field position to start the vast majority of the drives or special teams that either didn't give the ball to the offense with good field position or put additional pressure on the defense by allowing other teams to get good field position. Also the Cowboys as a team led the ENTIRE league in drops. Yes it's just so much easier to put all the blame on Prescott for the record they had instead of accepting the fact that it's a team sport and the failure of many players beside Prescott contributed as much or more than Prescott's efforts and the record they had."
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Gee the word Atlanta or any implication to ANYTHING having to do with Atlanta appears in that comment. So you are just babbling on about things that only appear in your childish drug infested mind.

Don't bother to replay I won't reply to anything on this either. You're just not worth the effort or time it takes. Go,troll with someone else.
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he got owned....LOL

 

[Aviano90]

well, he is kind of right. everyone including you squarely puts the 8-8 record on Dak and is excusing everybody else from the debacle in 2019. yet, you all also dismiss the 13-3 record and give credit to everybody else. so in your expert opinion all the wins and losses are on offense and at that its all the QB and nothing else.

yeah, clealry he is right. BTW, I'm a Dak fan, but thanks for chiming in and also jumping to conclusions.

Don't you guys get tired of doing this?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Dak is not accurate, and not a great decision maker in crunch time .
Brady is old but he is much better than Dak . Manning win a SB while old . So not sure why not Brady .

stafford is more accurate than Dak and had less of a support staff than Dak

bottom line , Dak is not worth more than 28 mil .
The most important aspect however is that he Cannot lead the team to a SB due to his inaccuracy and lack of football acumen . He chokes often .
Better o move on and rebuild .

Brady is old and he has to go to a new place, new players, new system (he has been in the same system all his career). what are the chances of him having success his first year at the age of 43. Manning was old, but he wasn't 43. and it took him 4 years to win it and he had the best defense in the league. so do you think brady at 45 or 46 will give us a chance? come on dude. seriousluy

and Dak's accuracy is as good or better than Stafford. what has Stafford done to deserve more than Dak? he has a career losing record. he is about to turn 32. also he has several years remaining on his contract. his playoff record is worse than Dak.

cousins is making 27 mill a year. ryan is making 30. its where the QB market is.

and did you know he has the highest number of come back wins over the past 4 years? so where does the choking comment come from? your madden 2019 perception?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Dak had 22 TD passes in 2 of his 4 seasons and 23 as a rookie. His 30 TD passes last year are hardly proof of improvement. You gonna pay him based on his fluffed up stats on an 8-8 team playing from behind against anyone good?

QB is the most important position on the field, and its not even up for debate. It is a self evident fact reflected on the NFL player salary totem pole.

Is it ALL Dak's fault? No, but thats hardly a reason to pay him 35+ million per year and leave the team unable to address other positions in a meaningful way. You say its a team sport, right?

so he throws the most TDs in the 4th year compared to his previous years and that's not proof that he improved!? not sure what to make of that....

and yet you advocate paying who? what's the other options other than Dak. you are just moaning and complaining. tell us what are the other non madden 2019 options that would make the cowboys better.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

yeah, clealry he is right. BTW, I'm a Dak fan, but thanks for chiming in and also jumping to conclusions.

Don't you guys get tired of doing this?

you look and sound nervous as you have been caught as a fake fan.....its ok, you are not the only one who I have embarrassed around here with a hidden agenda.....you will learn to control your BS and anger. I will make sure of that

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Gee even grade school math says 30 is an improvement over 22 or 23. Yes the QB is the most important position and here's another fact. The cost of QB salaries rise a much faster rate than any other position and those costs go up EVERY year. The constant comparing to other QB's who signed contracts in previous years when the cost for those QB's in those years was less than what the price has moved to today is foolishness. Why don't you compare what Aikman made to what the costs are today while your it. How would you like it if people that aren't even working for the same company or have anything to do with your company started to whine about you possibly getting a raise?
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well, he failed math so you have to excuse him for that...I find it funny, hey, lets focus on the 8-8 record, the latest stat and dismiss the previous years, those previous years don't count....but man lets ignore the 30 TD compared to previous years....because that's hardly proof.... its called damage control spinning because they have no leg to stand on.

 

[Aviano90]

you look and sound nervous as you have been caught as a fake fan.....its ok, you are not the only one who I have embarrassed around here with a hidden agenda.....you will learn to control your BS and anger. I will make sure of that

Can't even admit when you're wrong. It's OK, I know your irrational posting style and expected it.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Can't even admit when you're wrong. It's OK, I know your irrational posting style and expected it.

yeah, got caught with your pants down and now trying to do some damage spin control....keep trying....I guess you like to be punished...

 

[Aviano90]

yeah, got caught with your pants down and now trying to do some damage spin control....keep trying....I guess you like to be punished...

All you Dak haters are the same. Go root for another team if you don't like our QB!

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

All you Dak haters are the same. Go root for another team if you don't like our QB!

SMH? Dak hater Dak Lover...what are you like 7? my 9 year old makes better arguments than you..perhaps I will have him train you over a couple of weekends

and I think you have ADHD or Alzeimers...have you read anything on this posts?

 

[Aviano90]

SMH? Dak hater Dak Lover...what are you like 7? my 9 year old makes better arguments than you..perhaps I will have him train you over a couple of weekends

and I think you have ADHD or Alzeimers...have you read anything on this posts?

Dude, you Romo lovers just won't quit making stuff up. Get over it, he's no longer the QB. Support Dak or find another team.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Dude, you Romo lovers just won't quit making stuff up. Get over it, he's no longer the QB. Support Dak or find another team.

see here you go again, Dak Hater, Romo Lover....like I said you are probably 7, spoiled kid whose mommy allowed him to use the computer......btw, Romo has been gone for 4 years, not sure why you mention him. is there an inferiority complex you are trying to deal with. like I said, I know you have ADHD or attention issues. read the threads if you can stay focused for 5 minutes. at this point you just want to argue without having all the facts. and like I said, my offer stands for my 9 year old to train you on how to debate....you have a lot to learn. My son would more than be happy to teach you.

 

[Aviano90]

see here you go again, Dak Hater, Romo Lover....like I said you are probably 7, spoiled kid whose mommy allowed him to use the computer......btw, Romo has been gone for 4 years, not sure why you mention him. is there an inferiority complex you are trying to deal with. like I said, I know you have ADHD or attention issues. read the threads if you can stay focused for 5 minutes. at this point you just want to argue without having all the facts. and like I said, my offer stands for my 9 year old to train you on how to debate....you have a lot to learn. My son would more than be happy to teach you.

I mention Romo because you are still sad he is gone. Go see a therapist. You need professional help.

 

[Philmonroe]

Dak had 22 TD passes in 2 of his 4 seasons and 23 as a rookie. His 30 TD passes last year are hardly proof of improvement. You gonna pay him based on his fluffed up stats on an 8-8 team playing from behind against anyone good?

QB is the most important position on the field, and its not even up for debate. It is a self evident fact reflected on the NFL player salary totem pole.

Is it ALL Dak's fault? No, but thats hardly a reason to pay him 35+ million per year and leave the team unable to address other positions in a meaningful way. You say its a team sport, right?

You have to realize most of the pro Dak people are still with the first girl that let them kiss her. They are ok with average because they’re afraid of failing. They just stick with average and never risk seeing if there is better out there.

 

[atlantacowboy]

so he throws the most TDs in the 4th year compared to his previous years and that's not proof that he improved!? not sure what to make of that....

and yet you advocate paying who? what's the other options other than Dak. you are just moaning and complaining. tell us what are the other non madden 2019 options that would make the cowboys better.

If you think Dak improved last year, you didn't watch the games. The team was not offensively competitive for huge swaths of the season and against just about anyone good. The only teams he looked good against were the really bad ones which is why the team was 8-8 and laid a turd in Philly in a pressure game.

How do I make the cowboys betters? I may not have all the answers but i'm pretty sure paying an average QB like he's an elite QB isn't the answer. Perhaps such a smart guy like you can enlighten us as to how increasing Dak's salary from 400k to 35 million per year is going to get Dallas to a super bowl.

 

[atlantacowboy]

so how about Stafford? .Peyton Manning? Russell Wilson? Phillip Rivers? Matt ryan? Cam Newton? Aaron Rodgers, all of whom had less wins in the 4th year than their 3rd year....should they have been paid on their last year of their performance or prior?

and how do you know he was working with half the playbook? I think you randomly pull that out of your arse to argue.

and should we look at Brady whose performance this year was awful, given he didn't have Gronk? what about Rodgers without any weapons? didn't brees performance drop when he lost Thomas to injury? and where does Amari Cooper rank among WRs in the league?

I can go through the road performance of all these other QBs. and their performance against winning teams. its already been posted about 10 times.

and he has had the same HC for 4 years...and this head coach is directly responsible for putrid performance of this team over the 4 years. in the rookie year, he got lucky, garrett didn't have much time screwing with him and we went 13-3. how many games did garrett cost us over the past 4 years. you still avoiding....and I will continue to remind you to answer it. and Dak's QB performance has improved over the past 4 years.

and you still are avoiding answering the question of what the other options are because you have no answer. What's the alternative? what's your solution? if you have none, then all you are doing is biitching and complaining and probably your agenda is to just complain about Dak and spin things. otherwise let us hear your QB options that would lead to a winning formula for the cowboys.

the $35 mill is the going rate in the market for top 10 QBs. last year it was about 33, the year before about 30 and the year before that around 27....its the market....

come on dude, you have been given 4 or 5 opportunities to come up with a winning QB formula, and you continuously avoid. and its obvious given your last two responses that you put the onus of winning just on the offense and excuse the coaching, defense and special teams from everything that has to do with winning....Dak has a 40-26 record in the past 4 years. who is better?

The fact you can't see the difference between Dak and those Qbs just proves you are a moron.