Video: FOX: Doug Gottlieb: Cowboys should trade up and draft Tua Tagovailoa 'We've seen Dak's ceiling'

[Flamma]

Agreed. We can't build a team like KC b/c Dak isn't in Mahomes league as a QB. So, the team we should be modeling after is SF who went from 4-12 to the super bowl with a game manager QB in one season. Dak isn't going to throw the Dallas Cowboys to a super bowl.

That's a perfect example. The Cowboys should not be paying huge money to a QB that is not elite or close to it. I'd rinse and repeat 4 year rookie contracts while keeping the players we need until we actually find a QB worth paying. Otherwise we're not winning anything. We're already talking about who we can and cannot keep as a result of paying Dak. That's taking a step backwards.

 

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Doug Gottlieb: Cowboys should trade up and draft Tua Tagovailoa 'We've seen Dak's ceiling' (VIDEO)

In a recent interview, Tua Tagovailoa said that he would enjoy playing for the Dallas Cowboys. Hear Doug Gottlieb make a case for the Cowboys to let Dak Prescott walk in order to trade up and select Tua in the 2020 NFL Draft.

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And how do we do that?

 

[atlantacowboy]

That's a perfect example. The Cowboys should not be paying huge money to a QB that is not elite or close to it. I'd rinse and repeat 4 year rookie contracts while keeping the players we need until we actually find a QB worth paying. Otherwise we're not winning anything. We're already talking about who we can and cannot keep as a result of paying Dak. That's taking a step backwards.

Exactly. If Dak on a cheap contract isn't the answer, how is Dak paid like an elite QB the answer? MM might be a better coach than JG, but he's not a miracle worker.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I supported Dak up until this contract issue. I think hes a good and many times above average QB but i will say his passes are a little questionable and inconsistent at times. Maybe I will regain better feelings for him but I question his loyality to the Dallas Cowboys. I'm in agreement with comments from Emmitt Smith take a little less make it up in endorsements. This also can help the team retain Coop and others.

Did you question Emmitts loyalty to the Cowboys when he sat out to get paid?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I do not think he is the only one , Dak just has a lot more that any top end QB he wants to be paid like and the 4 I mention are mid tier QB's also, I just do not believe his stats mean a lot at 8-8 and what the FO has done to help prop up his talent level doesn't merit wasting more resources on a mid tier QB. who can be replaced at a much lower cost. Dak at the right price as a bus driver may work but I do not see any deep play off run with a QB with Daks short comings.

His stats don’t mean anything. My opinion of Dak is the eye test. Has nothing to do with his record or his stats.

 

[5Stars]

Did you question Emmitts loyalty to the Cowboys when he sat out to get paid?

There wasn't a salary cap back then...

 

[5Stars]

His stats don’t mean anything. My opinion of Dak is the eye test. Has nothing to do with his record or his stats.

He's a good QB, an athlete, good enough to play in the NFL. His money comes first seems to be his focus right now...

 

[OmerV]

Rodgers wasn't a starter until his fourth year and Brady had won two Super Bowls by his fourth year. Brees was mired in San Diego but still manage to win the division and make the playoffs in his fourth year.
Dak has had four years starting, and that with the best running back in football, one of the best offensive lines and, I dare say, better receivers than Brees, Rodgers or Brady had in their first four seasons (LT, notwithstanding).

Nevertheless, I think Dak has room to grow. This is going to be a very telling year for him, IMO. New coach who is an offensive-minded coach. This year, Dak needs to take a next step. The ceiling is getting lower each season.

I didn’t say any of them were bad their first 4 years, I said they hadn’t peaked their first 4 years .... that the ceiling wasn’t yet defined. That’s the point - Dak’s ceiling is not yet defined after 4 years just as with many other QBs

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

He's a good QB, an athlete, good enough to play in the NFL. His money comes first seems to be his focus right now...

As well as it should be. Money should come first. That's all the Cowboys care about is money. Why would the players be any different?

There wasn't a salary cap back then...

He held out because of his contract.

 

[CT Dal Fan]

I'm glad Doug Gottlieb has his crystal ball working and knows Tua will be a great NFL quarterback. And that he's also certain a 26 year old Dak that's won 41 games his first four seasons in the NFL just won't get any better. This Gottleib dude is good.

Hall Of Fame Class of 2040. Start work on Tua's bronze bust and get his yellow jacket ready.

 

[Flamma]

As well as it should be. Money should come first. That's all the Cowboys care about is money. Why would the players be any different?


He held out because of his contract.

I agree with you, money should come first and I don't blame a player for wanting the most. But if it were up to me Dak would be getting it someplace else.

 

[Kwyn]

Hating on him or not I agree we’ve saw his ceiling. He’s average when a team has a bunch of pro bowl talent. You disagree and that’s cool too.

He’s improved key aspects of his game every year. I’m not a massive Dak fan but I don’t think Gottlieb’s comment, or yours, are true. Let me know when after he head a true plateau year or a season where he regresses

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Uh, Tua's celing is WAY higher than Dak's. In fact, I've been saying it all along and just heard Gottlieb say it: "Tua, right now, is a better quarterback than Dak, minus the health." Tua has been BREED to be an NFL quarterback. The man has uncanny accuracy. People say Tua's receivers were wide open. But what they fail to tell you is that the receivers were frustrated with Jalen Hurt because he never could complete passes to them. When Tua came in, he exploited coverages by fitting balls into tight windows, putting the ball where only the receivers could get it and taking advantage of open receivers. The receivers LOVED Tua. They liked Jalen too because he was a humble leader. But anyone who pays attention to the Alabama program could tell you the receivers were EXCITED when Tua took over.

Tua is going to need an offensive line. If he goes to a team who will surround him with offensive linemen and not try to draft receivers, running backs and tight end, this kid will be the next Dan Marino. He's THAT good. But if he goes to a team that puts it all on his shoulders and doesn't protect him, well, this is where his propensity to get injured will come into play.

Having said thus, it would simply cost too much to go from 17 to 3 to get him. But if it only took two 1s and a 2, I'm on that like hungry lions on a wounded gazelle.

I am not sure I buy that about Tua. if he was that good, shouldn't he be number 1 pick over Burrow? Tua has struggled against better teams and alabama tends to beat up on lesser teams. and the injury is a big concern. I have watched Tua in some games and haven't come away impressed.

and if we are going to talk about TV pundits talking, there are many who say Dak is elite and we should pay him what he asks for....everyone can point to some TV pundit saying something...

Tua, just like any other "sure bet" college QB is a risk.

 

[baltcowboy]

Not named Zeke or Cooper.
Not many options left, huh?

Exactly our team is not as talented as the talking heads want people to believe. Oh forgot about the great Jason Witten.

 

[blueblood70]

I would trade Dak to any team in the top 5 for their pick - straight up.

not enough it would take Dak, next years first and our 17th pick to move to 5..

 

[blueblood70]

not to mention his health risk. That hip aint no joke. Wasnt that similar issue to what Bo Jackson had?

that era was very different cant compare acls and achilles used to be career enders , the medical field has come 100times further and np I dnt believe it was exactly the same.. yes TT may need a redshirt years to be safe, go get a journeymen to play and bring TT a long slow, get him reps and what not but not that big a risk, hes still going top 10 in the draft.. apparently its anon issue..

yes it would take more then its worth to trade from 17 to 5 so im not with that plan....

 

[tyke1doe]

That dude was a freak of an athlete

He was. There are all types of legends surrounding him. My son met him, and Bo is ultra, anti-social. He was like "No pictures" and hated people kissing up to him.
But he was/is a once in a generation athlete.

 

[tyke1doe]

I am not sure I buy that about Tua. if he was that good, shouldn't he be number 1 pick over Burrow? Tua has struggled against better teams and alabama tends to beat up on lesser teams. and the injury is a big concern. I have watched Tua in some games and haven't come away impressed.

and if we are going to talk about TV pundits talking, there are many who say Dak is elite and we should pay him what he asks for....everyone can point to some TV pundit saying something...

Tua, just like any other "sure bet" college QB is a risk.

He's not No. 1 over Joe Burrow because of his injury. Tua is more proven than Burrow, who just happened to have the best year of any college quarterback.
And you know the NFL - measurables matter. Burrow is bigger and taller than Tua.

I've seen Tua in almost all of his games. And by the standard you've chosen to measure Tua, you can say that about ANY Bama player. Bama has been the standard for the past 10 years. Of course, they're not going to play anyone. When you're consistently the best, everyone else isn't and would qualify as lesser competition.

Tua has done well against most teams. The only teams he faltered against are Georgia (the second game, in which he was hurt) and the Clemson game, a game in which the Bama team was defeated in all phases of the game including coaching. No shame in that.

Furthermore, I'm less concerned about some TV pundit saying Dak is 'elite' and interested in what they mean by 'elite.' The same pundits, like Aikman, were saying Dak wasn't as great. Then when he ran into a stretch of success against subpar teams, he's elite again. And these same pundits will be calling him not elite if he reverts back to inaccurate Dak.

Be that as it may, time reveals all truth. So we shall see if Dak is elite with better coaching, and we'll see if Tua is elite or injury prone on the next level.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I agree with you, money should come first and I don't blame a player for wanting the most. But if it were up to me Dak would be getting it someplace else.

That' understood. I felt that way about some guys on this team. Liked Zeke and Lawrence.....never thought we should've paid Zeke......Lawrence is a hindsight thing. Think we made a mistake signing him.

 

[Flamma]

That' understood. I felt that way about some guys on this team. Liked Zeke and Lawrence.....never thought we should've paid Zeke......Lawrence is a hindsight thing. Think we made a mistake signing him.

Agree on Zeke for that amount of money. But someone else would have paid Tank, so it's up to the Cowboys to decide whether or not to keep him. Mainly because it's my opinion that Zeke would never have gotten that kind of money anywhere else. I don't think Dak would get 30+ anywhere else. But lets give Tank one more year to determine whether or not he's a bust after being paid.