A question regarding Garrett

[Redball Express]

Same here, that had run beyond it's course.

Bold, they didn't do well while here. Parcells had his worst coaching record in Dallas. Zimmer has done OK.

Any HC that comes to Dallas will not be the DC HC as much as he will be Booger's HC.

Redball, I wouldn't lay all of Prescott's problems off on Garrett or Linehan. Mullen tried to make him a more effective pocket passer as well, that didn't work. I see a QB missing QB 101 throws, I don't blame his coaches. Those 60 sacks were Garrett's fault? I saw more of a problem with Prescot's pocket awareness.

I assume at some point the FO had a discussion about finding out about their young QB because they knew bills would be coming due. Going forward with a dual threat QB can be risky, especially when there are some accuracy questions.

I do blame the 60 sacks on Garrett. Part of those number was that Atlanta game where they had a record number of sacks on us and Garrett left the LT in there that was merely a turnstile.

He almost got Dak killed.

Then the decision after cutting Dez to play WR by committee. A complete disaster with both decisions.

I will not get into the decision in 2015 to let DeMarco Murray leave and go with Randle.

Some brilliant moves there, yikes.

So Garrett stinks to me. Can't repeat it often or loud enough.

 

[Dre11]

I do blame the 60 sacks on Garrett. Part of those number was that Atlanta game where they had a record number of sacks on us and Garrett left the LT in there that was merely a turnstile.

He almost got Dak killed.

Then the decision after cutting Dez to play WR by committee. A complete disaster with both decisions.

I will not get into the decision in 2015 to let DeMarco Murray leave and go with Randle.

Some brilliant moves there, yikes.

So Garrett stinks to me. Can't repeat it often or loud enough.

so you actually think Garrett let Murray and Dez go. it was reported that Garrett was the last to get on board with the Dez decision, he also went and met with Murray to come back . those sound like front office moves to me

 

[JoeKing]

They were not a good team last season. With Jones in his second season as a starter, improvement is to be expected. I would give the clapper none of the credit.

 

[Dre11]

I do blame the 60 sacks on Garrett. Part of those number was that Atlanta game where they had a record number of sacks on us and Garrett left the LT in there that was merely a turnstile.

He almost got Dak killed.

Then the decision after cutting Dez to play WR by committee. A complete disaster with both decisions.

I will not get into the decision in 2015 to let DeMarco Murray leave and go with Randle.

Some brilliant moves there, yikes.

So Garrett stinks to me. Can't repeat it often or loud enough.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...co-murray-cant-be-replaced-jason-garrett-says

 

[Chocolate Lab]

If they upgrade their talent and Jones actually has something and improves, sure they'll be better.

But that's no different than if they had any other average, spare OC. Which is exactly what Garrett is.

 

[Blake]

That is interesting. One of the least knowledgeable... Are there stats on this or just hot opinions?

Are you serious?! There's a reason his play calling abilities were revoked. They guy is a complete goon when it comes to the Xs and Os. The fact that anyone should have to explain this to you makes you look like one as well.

 

[CF74]

Would you be surprised if Daniel Jones and the New York offense dramatically improved across the board next year and the team started being much more competitive within the division? Would you assess some of the improvement to Garrett?

Can you differentiate many sources of improvement? Is Jason's main gift at motivating and maintaining a consistent approach? Maybe he's not very innovative, but what if his offense with Jones at the helm seems more unpredictable and new? His fault or someone else's?

Garrett can get you 7-8 wins with his style of coaching. If you infuse that with a great deal of Talent, he’s still not a Championship appearing type of coach. To answer your question I can see them get about 8 wins with some O-Line improvements...

 

[Redball Express]

They were not a good team last season. With Jones in his second season as a starter, improvement is to be expected. I would give the clapper none of the credit.

McCarthy will do better if all he does is build campfires on Friday nites and gather the team around and sing this..

 

[5Stars]

I give Garrett two years and he will be the head coach. He's going to undermine that rookie HC so bad the guy won't know what happened...that's how he operates. IMO

 

[garyo1954]

Would you be surprised if Daniel Jones and the New York offense dramatically improved across the board next year and the team started being much more competitive within the division? Would you assess some of the improvement to Garrett?

Can you differentiate many sources of improvement? Is Jason's main gift at motivating and maintaining a consistent approach? Maybe he's not very innovative, but what if his offense with Jones at the helm seems more unpredictable and new? His fault or someone else's?

Expect the Giants and Washington improve. Jason knows how to use his players. And he won't have Jerry making decisions, looking over his shoulder, or teaching hims football.

I don't see Jason as a motivator since too many times this team came out flat in big games. He does maintain a consistent positive approach. Can be good. But can be bad if you need to send a message to the team that you expect improvements.

 

[CF74]

Garrett wasn't a great coach in Dallas but he wasn't as bad as some believed. Coaching isn't some art, it is a learned skill and some have more of an aptitude for it than others.

The one with mixed emotions is Booger, he wants Garrett to do well but the better he does in NY, the more this mess in Dallas wasn't on Garrett.

The one thing I've always felt about Garrett was that I wasn't qualified to judge him but some people I really respect in the game still think very highly of him.

Add to that, a HOF HC could only get a .500 record in Dallas. And his comment about keeping Booger from himself, why should any HC have to do that?

I do believe Garrett will be happier in NY than he was in Dallas. There were too many times you could read the 1000 yard stare on his face. I believe the DC HC is the single toughest job in all pro sports. Parcells just flat wore out.

Are u implying that 1,000 yd stare was induced by being Jerry’s robot?

 

[JayFord]

They will improve

Garrett’s issue is decision making.....

As in saquon will carry the ball 6 times for 77 yards then will finish the game with 8 carries for 88 yards

I’m not concerned he can win a SB with them it’s whatever to me he needed to leave Dallas we’ve seen his ceiling here

 

[ShiningStar]

Garret the coordinator is stronger than Garrett the HC, so yes, they will be better, but that HAS nothing to do with Dallas.

 

[leeblair]

I'll be surprised if Garrett doesn't backstab the head coach to get his job.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

He's still the best clapper in the division. So there's that.

He has to clap for himself, because nobody else will clap for him.

 

[stilltheguru]

Biggest POS in the NFL. I was glad i havent seen his name on here in awhile

 

[Diehardblues]

Garrett had some flaws like all coaches but he was a championship appearance away from being the 3rd best HC in Cowboys history.

His unpopularity on this forum was driven out of frustration from Jerry’s egotistical selfish intent to retain him despite the disappointments.

His offenses generally top 10 carried the team without good defenses helping develop an Undrafted and lowly drafted QB. Most likely why he was snatched up quickly by NY. It will be interesting to see what he can do with a more talented ( 1st rd) QB.

While X and O’s and game day instincts weren’t his greatest asset his motivational skills steering the franchise attempting to overcome the continuing distractions and meddling from our dysfunctional toxic ownership eventually took its toll.

The greatest mark by any HC is did they leave the franchise in a better place than when they took over. Which I believe after 1-7 in 2010 we can argue yes influencing the franchise in a better direction building a nucleus of a contender setting the table for more success.

 

[JoeKing]

McCarthy will do better if all he does is build campfires on Friday nites and gather the team around and sing this..

I wasn't talking about McCarthy. The question asked was about the Giants improving. Maybe you have trouble paying attention.

 

[Redball Express]

I wasn't talking about McCarthy. The question asked was about the Giants improving. Maybe you have trouble paying attention.

No prob.

Answering about 20 replies at once.

Will get back. Thanx.

 

[JoeKing]

No prob.

Answering about 20 replies at once.

Will get back. Thanx.

No please don't. You've wasted enough of my time already.