Why the fear of losing Dak & Cooper?

[LittleD]

I get fans want to see their team win and the front office to make the best player decisions to place the team in a position to win.


However, why is everyone seemingly afraid of a rebuild situation? Dallas has not won a Super Bowl since 1996!!!! That is 24 years ago since their last Super Bowl appearance.

Many say the team is close and are addiment the team re-sign Dak Prescott and Amari Cooper to whatever contract they need to as they are vital pieces of the offense.

That said, let's look at the 2019-2020 season and see what each player did based on the 1st and 2nd half of the season:


AMARI COOPER

Games 1-9 (Dallas team record 5-4)

53 Catches 848 Yards 16 YPC 7 TD's

Games 10-16 (Dallas team record 3-4)

26 Catches 341 Yards 13.1 YPC 1 TD


DAK PRESCOTT

Games 1-9 (Dallas team record 5-4)

218 Comp. 319 Attempts 68.3% Comp. 2,777 Yards 18 TD's 9 INT's

Games 10-16 (Dallas team record 3-4)

170 Comp. 255 Attempts 66.7% Comp. 2,125 Yards 12 TD's 2 INT's



Neither of these guys stepped up when needed most in the 2nd half of the season so why are people so willing to commit potentially over $51M/annually combined to these guys????


I get a rebuild isn't ideal given the commitments to the offensive line and their getting older each year but sometimes the best thing to do is to rebuild the whole thing rather than throwing money at players who have not done anything to get Dallas back to the Super Bowl.

There is no fear of losing Dak...Jerry said at the combine that there is absolutely no way he loses the rights to Dak for even 1 hour. Dak will be here in some capacity
for the next two years. Amari on the other hand????

 

[GMO415]

I get fans want to see their team win and the front office to make the best player decisions to place the team in a position to win.


However, why is everyone seemingly afraid of a rebuild situation? Dallas has not won a Super Bowl since 1996!!!! That is 24 years ago since their last Super Bowl appearance.

Many say the team is close and are addiment the team re-sign Dak Prescott and Amari Cooper to whatever contract they need to as they are vital pieces of the offense.

That said, let's look at the 2019-2020 season and see what each player did based on the 1st and 2nd half of the season:


AMARI COOPER

Games 1-9 (Dallas team record 5-4)

53 Catches 848 Yards 16 YPC 7 TD's

Games 10-16 (Dallas team record 3-4)

26 Catches 341 Yards 13.1 YPC 1 TD


DAK PRESCOTT

Games 1-9 (Dallas team record 5-4)

218 Comp. 319 Attempts 68.3% Comp. 2,777 Yards 18 TD's 9 INT's

Games 10-16 (Dallas team record 3-4)

170 Comp. 255 Attempts 66.7% Comp. 2,125 Yards 12 TD's 2 INT's



Neither of these guys stepped up when needed most in the 2nd half of the season so why are people so willing to commit potentially over $51M/annually combined to these guys????


I get a rebuild isn't ideal given the commitments to the offensive line and their getting older each year but sometimes the best thing to do is to rebuild the whole thing rather than throwing money at players who have not done anything to get Dallas back to the Super Bowl.

Garrett lost the team. All the evidence is there.

 

[Rockport]

Look, I’m not going to beat up on this post because the poster’s moniker is the ultra douchbaggy ‘USArmyVet.”

No- I’m not calling you a douchbag for being a Vet—I’m a retired 1SG-2017/35Z BASD 13JUL97, but to post under that moniker......makes you look like a self-appreciating, bloated turd.

And not to pile on to reservists....but you probably are one. Most dudes over the top about being a vet are USAR. (I finished as an AGR). <rant over>

I understand the opinion of “why are we going to the well for ‘superstars’ who didn’t pull it out down the stretch?” In my opinion- AC disappeared a ton more than Dak, but that also may have been scheme / coaching and lack of adjustments (which the previous regime was famous for) so I’ll cut AC a pass.

As far as Dak? Yea- to go where? We have wayyyy to many good players to cut the head off right now.

Most of us agree that a coaching change might be all we need to get back into contention. We’ll see.

So, I’m short. Change the self ingratiating user name, understand where you’re coming from, too soon to pull the plug.

thanks!

Anyone who wears their service on their sleeve, no pun intended, like this guy is someone to ignore. No one I served with would do that. If they do, then you are correct they’re a douchebag and not someone to be trusted by anything they say.

 

[Hook'em#11]

Because some of us remember the early 2000s.

 

[Typhus]

Yet, some fans want to get rid of them but rebuild instead?

Kinda of entertaining fellas on gameday, and both would definitely keep me entertained, but being entertained and satisfied and proud as a fan are entirely two different worlds.

 

[Blitzen]

I get fans want to see their team win and the front office to make the best player decisions to place the team in a position to win.


However, why is everyone seemingly afraid of a rebuild situation? Dallas has not won a Super Bowl since 1996!!!! That is 24 years ago since their last Super Bowl appearance.

Many say the team is close and are addiment the team re-sign Dak Prescott and Amari Cooper to whatever contract they need to as they are vital pieces of the offense.

That said, let's look at the 2019-2020 season and see what each player did based on the 1st and 2nd half of the season:


AMARI COOPER

Games 1-9 (Dallas team record 5-4)

53 Catches 848 Yards 16 YPC 7 TD's

Games 10-16 (Dallas team record 3-4)

26 Catches 341 Yards 13.1 YPC 1 TD


DAK PRESCOTT

Games 1-9 (Dallas team record 5-4)

218 Comp. 319 Attempts 68.3% Comp. 2,777 Yards 18 TD's 9 INT's

Games 10-16 (Dallas team record 3-4)

170 Comp. 255 Attempts 66.7% Comp. 2,125 Yards 12 TD's 2 INT's



Neither of these guys stepped up when needed most in the 2nd half of the season so why are people so willing to commit potentially over $51M/annually combined to these guys????


I get a rebuild isn't ideal given the commitments to the offensive line and their getting older each year but sometimes the best thing to do is to rebuild the whole thing rather than throwing money at players who have not done anything to get Dallas back to the Super Bowl.

I will you tell you one thing. This team will SLAY the crappy teams, just SLAY them! Hang your hat on that!

 

[montgod]

I'd like to see what MM can do with them before we dump them and start over.

Ain't nothing wrong with a happy medium and shopping at Nordstrom Rack lol. MM is going to watch Dak and be like... wow... Aaron WAS really amazing.

 

[Stash]

Ain't nothing wrong with a happy medium and shopping at Nordstrom Rack lol. MM is going to watch Dak and be like... wow... Aaron WAS really amazing.

Im not so sure about that. Take a look at the numbers for both since Dak entered the league:

https://www.pro-football-reference....toyear_2=2019&player_id2=PresDa01&idx=players

 

[JoeKing]

This team will be crap without either of them. I think that is plenty of cause to fear losing them.

 

[atlantacowboy]

because what or who are the options???
particularly @QB??
if it ain't Tua....i'm not interested.
i'll stick with Dak and COOOOOOOOOP.
as for them not stepping up last season...they weren't alone.
2ndly.....in their careers in Dallas....they have.
we've seen it.
only way i'd consider giving up #4 is if you guarantee me we draft Tua....the only QB in this group worth a damn in my opinion.

Ok. But they were making a combined 11.5 million last year. This year they are asking close to 60 million. So, they can't hide behind the "they weren't alone" excuse anymore. They want to be paid like they carry the team. Fine. Haven't seen either carry the team yet is the problem. Dak in no way is worth that kind of money. He was 6-0 against 4 of the 5 worst teams in the NFL, and 2-8 against everyone else. You don't pay a losing QB like he's a super bowl champ.

In regard to the draft, we have no idea. Who had Dak as a franchise QB in round 4? If Kellen Moore didn't get injured, Dak probably doesn't make the team.

 

[cheftjpeck]

I get fans want to see their team win and the front office to make the best player decisions to place the team in a position to win.


However, why is everyone seemingly afraid of a rebuild situation? Dallas has not won a Super Bowl since 1996!!!! That is 24 years ago since their last Super Bowl appearance.

Many say the team is close and are addiment the team re-sign Dak Prescott and Amari Cooper to whatever contract they need to as they are vital pieces of the offense.

That said, let's look at the 2019-2020 season and see what each player did based on the 1st and 2nd half of the season:


AMARI COOPER

Games 1-9 (Dallas team record 5-4)

53 Catches 848 Yards 16 YPC 7 TD's

Games 10-16 (Dallas team record 3-4)

26 Catches 341 Yards 13.1 YPC 1 TD


DAK PRESCOTT

Games 1-9 (Dallas team record 5-4)

218 Comp. 319 Attempts 68.3% Comp. 2,777 Yards 18 TD's 9 INT's

Games 10-16 (Dallas team record 3-4)

170 Comp. 255 Attempts 66.7% Comp. 2,125 Yards 12 TD's 2 INT's



Neither of these guys stepped up when needed most in the 2nd half of the season so why are people so willing to commit potentially over $51M/annually combined to these guys????


I get a rebuild isn't ideal given the commitments to the offensive line and their getting older each year but sometimes the best thing to do is to rebuild the whole thing rather than throwing money at players who have not done anything to get Dallas back to the Super Bowl.

A) Daks stats are pretty good in you post - so they doesn’t help your cause

B) your own post states TEAM record .. not individual record .. it’s a team sport that every player and coach had a hand in wins and losses .. not just Dak and Amari - but again I understand that doesn’t support your post

it’s not a fear it’s memory. History has shown that rebuilding is not always the answer. The team is built for now not later . Allot of money is invested into the o line .. the rb .. defensive end .. lb .. you can’t just walk away from that and start a rebuild .. While many don’t like Dak and don’t want to invest the money into him .. the options aren’t better ... Dak can win .. has proven he can win .. he has also shown to be a strong leader that the team follows ..
so not so sure a rebuild is the answer

Cooper also is a good fit too .. yes he disappeared in the second half along with the rest of the wr core ? Is that play calling .. coaching .. poor execution ? Again teams win and lose as a team

 

[montgod]

Im not so sure about that. Take a look at the numbers for both since Dak entered the league:

https://www.pro-football-reference....toyear_2=2019&player_id2=PresDa01&idx=players

Yeah, it is a good comparison and you're right, maybe MM might not have that thought. AR did do his thing though overall even when he missed 7 games in 2017 to surpass or be right in the ball park with Dak's numbers except for rushing TDs. All points considered, Zeke was a big part of that and who knows how AR would have done with a rb like him during that time. It still says a lot for a rookie in Dak to come in a do what he did. I think most know the numbers are there, but in a pinch, when the game is on the line, there aren't many who would choose Dak over AR to lead a team to a win. This is why folks are looking for more tangible wins vs. stats to justify paying and being locked into Dak for 4 more years. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens.

 

[cowboyec]

Ok. But they were making a combined 11.5 million last year. This year they are asking close to 60 million. So, they can't hide behind the "they weren't alone" excuse anymore. They want to be paid like they carry the team. Fine. Haven't seen either carry the team yet is the problem. Dak in no way is worth that kind of money. He was 6-0 against 4 of the 5 worst teams in the NFL, and 2-8 against everyone else. You don't pay a losing QB like he's a super bowl champ.

In regard to the draft, we have no idea. Who had Dak as a franchise QB in round 4? If Kellen Moore didn't get injured, Dak probably doesn't make the team.

you say neither one don't carry the team....yet Amari is the reason we won the division the season b4 and made the playoffs.
in Daks time here he's guided us to 41 wins and 2 division titles....and his rookie year brought us back to the brink of OT vs green bay....yes...last sesson he and THIS ENTIRE TEAM came up short in the biggest games...but in the entirity of his time here...he's been pretty damn good for a 4yr starter who learned on the job.
i'd trade it all for a Super Bowl title.....but so far....he's been pretty damn good.
and since when did salaries in the NFL ever NOT be outta whack vs the real world.
its a big business with big salaries.
thats how the mop flops.
Dallas wants the best deal they can get.
good...they should.
Dak and Coop want the best deal they can get.
good...they should.
no skin off my nose.
aint comin outta my pay check.
good for all sides.
get all you can get while you can get it.
0 probelm from me with Dallas wanting them to take less...and them wanting Dallas to give more.
if i'da paid more attention in school....i'd get in on it.
but lets not pretend 41 wins 2 division titles and playoff appearances for a 4th yr QB aint good.
it is.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I get fans want to see their team win and the front office to make the best player decisions to place the team in a position to win.


However, why is everyone seemingly afraid of a rebuild situation? Dallas has not won a Super Bowl since 1996!!!! That is 24 years ago since their last Super Bowl appearance.

Many say the team is close and are addiment the team re-sign Dak Prescott and Amari Cooper to whatever contract they need to as they are vital pieces of the offense.

That said, let's look at the 2019-2020 season and see what each player did based on the 1st and 2nd half of the season:


AMARI COOPER

Games 1-9 (Dallas team record 5-4)

53 Catches 848 Yards 16 YPC 7 TD's

Games 10-16 (Dallas team record 3-4)

26 Catches 341 Yards 13.1 YPC 1 TD


DAK PRESCOTT

Games 1-9 (Dallas team record 5-4)

218 Comp. 319 Attempts 68.3% Comp. 2,777 Yards 18 TD's 9 INT's

Games 10-16 (Dallas team record 3-4)

170 Comp. 255 Attempts 66.7% Comp. 2,125 Yards 12 TD's 2 INT's



Neither of these guys stepped up when needed most in the 2nd half of the season so why are people so willing to commit potentially over $51M/annually combined to these guys????


I get a rebuild isn't ideal given the commitments to the offensive line and their getting older each year but sometimes the best thing to do is to rebuild the whole thing rather than throwing money at players who have not done anything to get Dallas back to the Super Bowl.

Is this your round about way of admitting that you don't get it?

 

[CowboyRoy]

Cherry picking to justify a rebuild? Yeah, no.

What kind of a moron would want a rebuild? And what is the first thing these trolls are going to be begging for? The Cowboys to go out and sign or draft a franchise QB and #1 WR. LOL

 

[G2]

What kind of a moron would want a rebuild? And what is the first thing these trolls are going to be begging for? The Cowboys to go out and sign or draft a franchise QB and #1 WR. LOL

Exactly. Mind boggling, isn't it?

 

[CowboyRoy]

Exactly. Mind boggling, isn't it?

Its amazing how blind hatred can cause loyal fans to say such pathetic nonsense.

And most of it is tied to 4 years ago when Romo was not given his job back. There are going to be lots of unhappy trolls when Dak resigns.

 

[G2]

Its amazing how blind hatred can cause loyal fans to say such pathetic nonsense.

And most of it is tied to 4 years ago when Romo was not given his job back. There are going to be lots of unhappy trolls when Dak resigns.

I partly want Prescott to go elsewhere and give the tools exactly what they want. Some think it's as easy as just going and finding another QB. The bias is severe.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I partly want Prescott to go elsewhere and give the tools exactly what they want. Some think it's as easy as just going and finding another QB. The bias is severe.

Depends where he goes? If he went to the Bengals he isn't winning any SB's any time soon.

Just look at Tannehil. Perfect example. Does nothing in Miami. Comes in the last 8 games surrounded by a REAL team and coaching and he instantly kills it.

 

[G2]

Depends where he goes? If he went to the Bengals he isn't winning any SB's any time soon.

Just look at Tannehil. Perfect example. Does nothing in Miami. Comes in the last 8 games surrounded by a REAL team and coaching and he instantly kills it.

I agree.