I'd love to hear the logic on Crawford

Sydla

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Crawford is a $9.1MM cap hit this year and would save $8MM if cut.

He's not a starting player for us. Lawrence is the LDE, McCoy is better and likely the starter at the 3T, Woods is bigger and more able to hold up at the 1T spot and Crawford is not a RDE.

I don't think Crawford is a bad player by any stretch. He serves a purpose and is a capable backup. But that's all he is........... a backup. And when you watch this organization penny pinch the hell out of FA, it's strange that they seem content on letting a backup DL eat up nearly $10MM in cap space.

There are two starting caliber RDEs out there in Golden and Griffen. Clowney would be a third if you want to think big. We lack a starting RDE. Cut Crawford (Or even restructure and save 4-5MM in cap space) and bring one of them in. Crawford would not be hard to replace in FA as there are some backup caliber DTs out there.

I'd love to get a few JW Blues in Jerry and listen to him explain why they value Crawford that much.
 

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We need quality depth and part time starter. Don't think we can sign anyone much better for much less money.
Also, can we recoup all of his money if he's cut while injured. Dont know if he's been cleared yet.
 

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They don't. They are not going to restructure Crawford until they decide if they will even keep him in the first place. They are probably not going to decide that until after free agency & the draft. If they bring in more lineman than they will have even more leverage. One way or the other Crawford will take a pay cut or be released.
 

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I dont understand either. I think we should keep him, he does a lot of dirty work that no one sees. But he needs to be cut down from 9.1 to 4.5. Dont forget he plays almost every pos along the D line. At that number he is a good guy to keep
Crawford actually volunteered for a pay cut to stay with team earlier in the year
 

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They don't. They are not going to restructure Crawford until they decide if they will even keep him in the first place. They are probably not going to decide that until after free agency & the draft. If they bring in more lineman than they will have even more leverage. One way or the other Crawford will take a pay cut or be released.

Why wait? Its idiotic because that $8MM in saved cap space can land you immediate help right now. Why not trade Crawford for Griffen right now? It makes you a better football team.
 

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They don't. They are not going to restructure Crawford until they decide if they will even keep him in the first place. They are probably not going to decide that until after free agency & the draft. If they bring in more lineman than they will have even more leverage. One way or the other Crawford will take a pay cut or be released.

This is what I am thinking also, there is no reason to release him right now. They will keep him on the roster, until they get things in place to do so, or ask him to take a reduction in pay. I wish they would just release him now, but I can understand why they will not. If the rest of FA or the draft does not go their way, then they hang on to him.

They should cut him and use that $8 million for Griffen, but maybe that is still in the works.
 

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I'd guess he will take a pay cut. Might be waiting to see if we need the cap space for someone else and just want to cut him instead.
 

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There’s only one reason he hasn’t been cut, he’s the ONLY RDE with any experience playing in the nfl that’s currently on this roster. Obviously we’re 1 signing away from that changing but they aren’t going to get caught with their pants down & don’t need to cut him until someone else is signed. This isn’t really rocket surgery guys.
 

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There’s only one reason he hasn’t been cut, he’s the ONLY RDE with any experience playing in the nfl that’s currently on this roster. Obviously we’re 1 signing away from that changing but they aren’t going to get caught with their pants down & don’t need to cut him until someone else is signed. This isn’t really rocket surgery guys.

He's not an RDE.

And this idea that we can't cut him because we don't have one is a stretch. It's not hard to do two things simultaneously........... get a deal in place wiht Griffen or Golden and cut Crawford. Teams do this all the time.

There really is no logical reason Crawford is still on this team and we are tepidly (if that) looking at Griffen or Golden.
 

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He's not an RDE.

And this idea that we can't cut him because we don't have one is a stretch. It's not hard to do two things simultaneously........... get a deal in place wiht Griffen or Golden and cut Crawford. Teams do this all the time.

There really is no logical reason Crawford is still on this team and we are tepidly (if that) looking at Griffen or Golden.
He absolutely is a RDE. That is his primary position.

That’s what I’m saying, it’ll happen simultaneously when they sign someone - they won’t cut him before they get someone else, that would be stupid.

I started a whole entire thread on Everson Griffen - there’s no reason we shouldn’t have signed him days ago.
 

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Crawford is a $9.1MM cap hit this year and would save $8MM if cut.

He's not a starting player for us. Lawrence is the LDE, McCoy is better and likely the starter at the 3T, Woods is bigger and more able to hold up at the 1T spot and Crawford is not a RDE.

I don't think Crawford is a bad player by any stretch. He serves a purpose and is a capable backup. But that's all he is........... a backup. And when you watch this organization penny pinch the hell out of FA, it's strange that they seem content on letting a backup DL eat up nearly $10MM in cap space.

There are two starting caliber RDEs out there in Golden and Griffen. Clowney would be a third if you want to think big. We lack a starting RDE. Cut Crawford (Or even restructure and save 4-5MM in cap space) and bring one of them in. Crawford would not be hard to replace in FA as there are some backup caliber DTs out there.

I'd love to get a few JW Blues in Jerry and listen to him explain why they value Crawford that much.

did you see how much he was missed last season? He was a big reason Lawerence was successful, especially when he was inside.
 

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We are currently around $24MM in cap space. Why cut/restructure Crawford until you have too? If you cut Crawford then miss out on the FA you had targeted you just have empty cap space and no one to show for it.
There it is.
Somebody actually thinking this through

Unless we are locked into paying his full cap hit in the next day or two, why cut him right now if we don't have to.
 

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We are currently around $24MM in cap space. Why cut/restructure Crawford until you have too? If you cut Crawford then miss out on the FA you had targeted you just have empty cap space and no one to show for it.
Well that's my thinking. We have cap space. What's the point of cutting him?

For the capologists on here.......wouldn't it be smarter to just let his contract go off the books when its up? I can see if you were dying for cap space but as of right now they aren't. Hell they aren't even spending the space they have.
 

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Crawford is a $9.1MM cap hit this year and would save $8MM if cut.

He's not a starting player for us. Lawrence is the LDE, McCoy is better and likely the starter at the 3T, Woods is bigger and more able to hold up at the 1T spot and Crawford is not a RDE.

I don't think Crawford is a bad player by any stretch. He serves a purpose and is a capable backup. But that's all he is........... a backup. And when you watch this organization penny pinch the hell out of FA, it's strange that they seem content on letting a backup DL eat up nearly $10MM in cap space.

There are two starting caliber RDEs out there in Golden and Griffen. Clowney would be a third if you want to think big. We lack a starting RDE. Cut Crawford (Or even restructure and save 4-5MM in cap space) and bring one of them in. Crawford would not be hard to replace in FA as there are some backup caliber DTs out there.

I'd love to get a few JW Blues in Jerry and listen to him explain why they value Crawford that much.
You can sign those guys without cutting Crawford.
 

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Well that's my thinking. We have cap space. What's the point of cutting him?

For the capologists on here.......wouldn't it be smarter to just let his contract go off the books when its up? I can see if you were dying for cap space but as of right now they aren't. Hell they aren't even spending the space they have.
Bingo...i'm not a cap expert by any means, but typically a restructure makes it tougher to cut a player in later years, or you have more dead money in later years. Now i may get beat up by the Cap gurus for saying that, as i could be wrong in this scenario, but for now that's the story im sticking to.
 
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