Cowboys need to get a speedy WR sub 4.4 forty yard

Bowdown27

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My question is who do you think will be there at 17 for wideout that most people would be happy with ?
 

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BPA is a good strat for a rebuilding team, but this isn't a rebuilding team. This is a stacked offense already with GIANT HUGE ENORMOUS GAPING holes on defense.
Player candidates for selection are ranked by a team, based upon talent evaluated by that team. The team determines value based upon how that player fits into it's own scheme.

Best Player Available, still applies...and is very important with a team's first round pick.
 

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I am up way too early this morning.

Can't sleep.

So let's see what's up with this.

I am pretty concerned about losing Cobb and Witten.

Some say it was time to move on from Witten and get an upgrade.

Some say Cobb was merely a replaceable cog in the offensive machine.

Not so fast.

Firstly, we are talking about Dak as the QB here. He is not Mahomes. Accuracy is not his passport.

Secondly,, our team is now going to have to re-,establish its offensive identity with Beard gone and all the coaching changes.

This team MUST bring in a WR to be added to our mix to help the starters. I clearly sense a falloff coming at receiver.

Some say we have guys already on the roster who should play. That drafting is a waste of time and resources.

Nope...like you say..find one and get him on the field.

In addition to your wants with speed being primary..

I want a guy who is quick. I want one who is not afraid to return punts and KOs, too.

We are needing that every time we touch the ball, there be urgency.

This is a mindset and a 'want to'. It's an intangible not a definable skill set.

So put that in your pipe and let me know.
We’re still pretending Dak’s not an accurate QB?

65.8% career completion pct.... 4th-best in NFL history.
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That's my entire issue with stats, they only represent the number,, has no representation of the actual athlete.
There is no stat that represents how well you execute in crucial game winning situations.
There is no stat that can represent or translate if you are a winner by nature or a loser by nature.
30 interceptions represents pretty well what Jameis was.
 

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You can try and do a search, but Im most confident that I have never used stats in order to discredit Dak,, man is a decent QB, but he has discredited himself all by himself.
If you think he’s just decent then yeah that’s discrediting him.
 

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If you think he’s just decent then yeah that’s discrediting him.
Lets just agree to be friends,, I value your opinions that's why I even bother to reply,, I enjoy what you have to say..
Lets just agree to disagree about this subject,,, not saying I wont continue with my lame diatribe.
 

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We’re still pretending Dak’s not an accurate QB?

65.8% career completion pct.... 4th-best in NFL history.
:lmao2:
I know you are one of those stat guys.

I am a touchy feely guy.

Last year I watched Dak overthrow wide open guys..

saw him fail to lead WRs and throw behind them.

The ones I remember clearly are the ones where Dak would throw a laser beam right into the DBs chest. The DB would flat out drop it becuz he was so surprised Dak threw it.

Last year..this happened almost every game.. Had any of them run them back for 6 pts we would be screaming.

So I appreciate the stater-boys opinions. But I prefer the things I clearly see from drive to drive.

That's all.
 

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I think your team always needs a speed guy in their top 3 WRs to stress the DBs. Dak's numbers were really good without that guy.

For this QB, I think route running is more important, but I agree it would be great if that guy had 4.4 speed.

A lot of WRs in the draft, I prefer a bigger WR (6'2-6'4) for Dak with route running ability.

The QB accuracy chart from the Eagles revealed the type of guy Dak needs. A WR who can work the intermediate routes. Only thing is, what effect will Big Mike have on the passing game philosophy?
 

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I know you are one of those stat guys.

I am a touchy feely guy.

Last year I watched Dak overthrow wide open guys..

saw him fail to lead WRs and throw behind them.

The ones I remember clearly are the ones where Dak would throw a laser beam right into the DBs chest. The DB would flat out drop it becuz he was so surprised Dak threw it.

Last year..this happened almost every game.. Had any of them run them back for 6 pts we would be screaming.

So I appreciate the stater-boys opinions. But I prefer the things I clearly see from drive to drive.

That's all.
You don’t know football. At all. You should find a new hobby.

Every single QB has bad balls that are still caught. Every single QB has bad balls that could’ve been picked but weren’t.

Unless you have some context to show that Dak has more of those than other QBs, you have absolutely nothing.

Your garbage “eye test” doesn’t count more than the stats do.

And your “eye test” is just that: garbage.
 

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You don’t know football. At all. You should find a new hobby.

Every single QB has bad balls that are still caught. Every single QB has bad balls that could’ve been picked but weren’t.

Unless you have some context to show that Dak has more of those than other QBs, you have absolutely nothing.

Your garbage “eye test” doesn’t count more than the stats do.

And your “eye test” is just that: garbage.
Hhmmmm..

Whatever you think.

Some out there will understand my implications.

Some will clearly remember the dropped interceptions.

I do not have to go back and find the video. Nobody will take the time to do that. But you remember the plays. They are there. I need to prove nothing.

Dak already proved it by doing it.

Enjoy the show..
 

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My question is who do you think will be there at 17 for wideout that most people would be happy with ?
A wide out at 17 would be an extremely poor use of resources.
No matter who is there.

You just paid your long term WR1 20m a year.
You have a WR2 who is ascending to Pro Bowl caliber.

Adding WR3 in round 1 would be a lot like ATL adding Ridley and we have seen how many games they have won since doing so.

With the insane depth of this class you can get a guy who's 90% of the player in round 3 or 4.
 

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Kellen Moore wanted more SPEED - if you look back at this past summer when we brought in Jonvea Johnson, Reggie Davis, Jaylon Guyton, Devin Smith, to already return Tavon Austin as a FA again, there was clear evidence that Kellen & McClay crew was going to be
bring more emphasis on speed.
they wanted more chunk big plays and having guys with this kind of dimension was going to bring it.

- Cooper and Gallup were already guys that proved they could separate and bring chunk plays in passing game - the emphasis was on the 3rd, 4th and depth , and gimmick guys (ala Austin)

- But it wasn't only pure speed that was a big key but the other important traits to the makeup of any WR- the route running, knowing how to set up a CB and separate out of cuts, consistent hands catcher,..having knack for the game,.. .. rapport with the QBs,.. reading coverages on the run,.. consistently bringing the A-game and showing up on the field, etc.

- Devin Smith apparently showed moxie in camps that rookies Johnson, Guyton and vet Davis did not. plus he offered gunner help as a special teamer. but his one lone moment here came when he flat toasted declining Josh Norman on a go fly route for a TD vs Skins, he eventually came up with a big catch vs Miami as well, but form Saints game and on he was never a factor again on the field.
Whether his receiving game became an issue or the club just needed more special teams help elsewhere remains debatable. but Devin Smith
disappeared for remaining season, and i believe he is a FA so it's even debatable if he even returns back to the Cowboys.
 

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Hhmmmm..

Whatever you think.

Some out there will understand my implications.

Some will clearly remember the dropped interceptions.

I do not have to go back and find the video. Nobody will take the time to do that. But you remember the plays. They are there. I need to prove nothing.

Dak already proved it by doing it.

Enjoy the show..
Spoken like a know-nothing bozo who only watches the Cowboys play.
:laugh:
 

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That's my entire issue with stats, they only represent the number,, has no representation of the actual athlete.
There is no stat that represents how well you execute in crucial game winning situations.
There is no stat that can represent or translate if you are a winner by nature or a loser by nature.

i understand that. And Dak does have a lot of come from behind wins. So I guess that counts as crucial game winning situations. :D
 

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We already have 2 deep threats. What we need are a #1 TE (Jarwin is a serviceable but not good blocker) and another slot WR.
 
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