Aldon Smith makes Greg Hardy look like a choir boy

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First of all, I’m all for everyone in society getting second chances. People suffering from drug and alcohol addictions who make serious attempts to get sober deserve our support. But people with domestic violence problems are different, especially when it comes to putting them on a national stage like the NFL. Domestic Violence perpetrators need help, but they don’t need a roster spot.

Yahoo Sports ran an article last night on Aldon Smith’s incredibly long rap sheet. Below is an excerpt from that article:

Aldon Smith’s mountain of legal issues

Here’s a rundown of the long list of off-field issues Smith has encountered since entering the NFL:
This list makes Greg Hardy look like a choir boy.
As I said in the beginning of this post- second chances are good. But for domestic violence? I want the Cowboys to win as bad as anyone. But not without at least some level of respectability.

Here’s the link to the article I quoted:
https://sports.yahoo.com/aldon-smith-cowboys-sign-domestic-violence-arrests-nfl-012158571.html
You’re all for second chances unless the person makes a lot of money then they shouldn’t have second chances lol. The logic of some people is amazing.
 

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It's not like he killed anyone. Everyone is worthy of redemption. For Aldon, it's been 4 years since he played football. Domestic violence has never been a lifetime ban. We just celebrated 100 years of football and along with that Cleveland RB, Jim Brown, who is a well documented DV abuser. Don't tell me a player can't make a comeback from DV charges when the NFL has made it clear how much it loves Jim Brown. Aldon Smith is clean and sober now and turned his life around according to a report by Jay Glazer of Fox Sports. Dallas is confident his reinstatement will happen so I wish him the best of luck.
 

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Another poor optics signing....
Hate to break it to you but most don’t care about this alleged bad optics. Can he play is all that matters to most but I’m sure some will be happy knowing they’ve won the morality competition though.
 

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moral high horse come into play.

:laugh: here comes the same "moral high horse" BS that I heard when I did not support Greg Hardy.
Good thing I could care less what gutter morals people think.

I will just put you on ignore so we do not have to continue this meaningless argument on scumbag ex football players.
 

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The Cowboys have not had a roster full of all Choirboys. You do not need all Choirboys to win. But at least you need players that will go to somebody's church on Sunday and sit on the back pews with dark sunglasses on until the hangover is over (You know who I am talking about...:)).
I’m not saying we need choirboys- never said it- never will. I am saying I don’t like guys on the roster with Domestic Violence recently on their rap sheet.
 

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lol I mean the thread is literally about whether he is "worse" or not.

Agree in general about performance on the field.
No it literally isn’t about that. It’s about whether or not we are ok signing players with Domestic Violence on their resume or not. It’s not about Choir boys, it’s not about everyone has to be “good”. It’s about whether or not there are any standards at all for who we sign.
 

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dude is cancer, all the people that bashed hardy and dez out of the league should probably be rioting at this point over Smith. I don't care what Smith brings to the table, he's is not a good human being and has had more than enough chances to turn it around.

Please use the word CANCER. I get to see what it does to a person inside and out every day. I know what you meant but a really bad analogy. I really despise it when people try to use it this way.
 

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Greg Hardy beat the stuff out of that girl, was arrested for felony drug possession (cocaine), and had an arsenal of illegal weapons. Smith struggled to stay sober.

Hardy is legit a bad person. Smith struggled with alcoholism. So, no, he doesn't make Hardy look like anything.
Those are accusations, not the facts in the Greg Hardy case. If they were he facts, he would not have been granted to have his record expunged of those charges once his case was finally heard by a jury of his peers which did not happen originally when he was prosecuted by an overzealous female judge that denied him that constitutional right.
 
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On March 3, Smith was accused of a domestic violence incident in which he threw his fiancée “around the room, bit her on the wrist and climbed out the window,” according to a police dispatch call via KTVU in San Francisco. The Raiders released him shortly after. Smith turned himself into police on charges of willful infliction of corporal injury, assault with force likely to produce great bodily injury, false imprisonment and vandalism (less than $400).

False imprisonment? Assault with force likely to produce great bodily injury. And all this happened two years ago. It’s just mind boggling to me if the NFL reinstates this guy with this kind of domestic violence history.

I am completely perplexed by this case. Some of this is recent. I assumed he was clean for few years and decided to give it a go again with football but this guy has been out of control for better part of last 8 years.
 

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Can we please get fuzzy lumpkin in here to act like pseudo attorney and declare Aldon innocent of all charges?
Being clean and sober now and turning his life around makes a difference. Everyone is worthy of redemption. The Cowboys are confident he will get reinstated and so I wish him the best of luck.
 

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You’re all for second chances unless the person makes a lot of money then they shouldn’t have second chances lol. The logic of some people is amazing.
I’m scratching my head wondering where I said that. Unless you’re just assuming that’s what I meant. I tried to make it clear my problem with all this is the domestic violence he has on his record. If you want to quote me on that and say I’m against signing guys with DV, then fine. That’s accurate. Saying I’m (to quote you exactly) “all for second chances unless the person makes a lot of money then they shouldn’t have second chances”, is inaccurate.

You’re free to disagree with my opinions. Just make sure you’re accurately quoting my opinions.
 

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I am completely perplexed by this case. Some of this is recent. I assumed he was clean for few years and decided to give it a go again with football but this guy has been out of control for better part of last 8 years.
The most recent charge was only a DUI, not DV. He is clean and sober now.
 

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Hate to break it to you but most don’t care about this alleged bad optics. Can he play is all that matters to most but I’m sure some will be happy knowing they’ve won the morality competition though.

I think people care more now. The media will run with this if he slips again. 4 mill isn't chump change and Cowboys could have used some of that money to go after current NFL player with less baggage? There are still FA DE out there.
 

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I agree. Second chances are good, but 3rd or 4th or 5th? I’ve heard he’s really turned his life around, but can a zebra REALLY change his stripes? IMO, this shows how desperate Jerry is getting about winning one more Lombardi before departing for the FO upstairs.

Aldon Smith is a talent that COULD help, but is it worth tarnishing the brand further, inviting more distraction, and ratcheting up the Cowboy hate and hyperbole?

Read earlier this was a McCarthy idea. Het met him in LA where his daughter works out or something along those lines. Anyway McCarthy is the one that ignited the idea.
 

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Dude is probably in quarantine like the rest of the NFL so it will be hard for him not to stay clean. I don't like the guy and he hasn't played in years. I have the same expectations for him as I do for Gregory.
 

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No it literally isn’t about that. It’s about whether or not we are ok signing players with Domestic Violence on their resume or not. It’s not about Choir boys, it’s not about everyone has to be “good”. It’s about whether or not there are any standards at all for who we sign.
Then change your thread title lol.
 

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The odds are against him anyway, I would be surprised if he makes the roster...I can see him having a HARD time in training camp/preseason, especially since there probably won't be any mini-camps or team workouts for a few months. He is a project...some other camp body/undrafted FA they bring in may end up impressing the team instead
 
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