How would you feel if the Cowboys took QB Jalen Hurts early?

[kskboys]

Hopefully you do not give him the Dak hater treatment when he proves you wrong.

Not me. I would be more than happy to face it if I'm wrong about Hurts. Remind me in a couple of years if he pans out, and I will start a thread declaring that you were right and I was wrong about him. No one is right all the time. But man, Hurts is just so awful as a passer, I cannot fathom him becoming a quality starter.

Hurts = Terrelle Pryor.

 

[blueblood70]

You should try posting w/o throwing the insults first. Weak stuff, dude.

Dak is a passer compared to Hurts. Hurts is awful.

disagree

im comparing them as rookies coming in to play their first games, very similar so taking him 4th round is the same to me , we can use Hurts for a lot of things while dak maybe playing out his last season, at worst hes daks backup used like THill..

I am a TX Longhorn fan watched hurts a lot and when he was at AL plus his combine got rve reviews..

dak was a 4th rounder for reason as will Jhurts, they both had work to do, daks improved sure but we are talking as a rookie coming in before their first games..I think JHurts will be good at 4 and get some training , baptismal by fire , he will be better the Rush and at the moment that who hes taking snaps from, Not dak..

I remember dak in 2017 being compared to Quincy or Tebow when pressured, I see that at times even last year, just hucking balls up forcing ducks out.. its the difference between a passer and a thrower..

 

[Redball Express]

We need a backup QB, but I'm not sure Hurts is the guy. I would not pass up a good S, CB, or DE to go for Hurts at this point in time.

I guess I weigh in here.

There are 2 glaring holes we need to plan for and this is the draft for it.

One is center. People keep saying we can just move a 2nd or 3rd level player in and retrain him. Are you people crazy?

Do you remember how things were a disaster before Beard? Are you really going to not protect DAK and Zeke by throwing in a wanna be guy?

Absolutely not. It will not be sexy..but the way this team is constructed to win..the OL MUST be rock solid with as many injury -free type players as we can put up front. This is not even a second thought.

Two-Whether or not Dak plays under the Tag in 2020, our backup QBs are not talented enough to wn for us. They do not have the pedigrees.

We have to draft a QB who will fit the new offense. At the very least, we are back in 2016 where we needed Romo's backup and took Dak. Now we need DAK's potential replacement.

If Dak takes the Tag and plays..next year is unknown. Somebody needs to be readied. If something happens to DAK again like his shoulder or legs..we need somebody with punch to step in.

If Dak leaves after this year becuz we can not afford another Tag year..we need somebody in the pipeline.

So debate until the cows come home.

I just think if these two items are not highly addressed...

Katie bar the door.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Rumors persist...this could be the case...

https://www.profootballrumors.com/2020/04/nfc-notes-slay-eagles-hurts-cowboys-ifedi-bears

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For me personally...It would be a little rich...to spend that kind of coin...2nd or 3rd...but if he was sitting there in round 5 or 6....I could see the value having a guy that could an "X" factor in your offense.

Comments?....

3rd round I would be fine with it. ​

 

[kskboys]

Nothing against Hurts but
Saying Hurts isn't as fast as Jackson is pretty big understatement.
Jackson is usually faster than the entire defense. Hurts is faster than 4 or 5 at most.
Plus, Jackson's arm strength is WAY higher than Hurts.

Hurts is much more like Dak than Jackson

And he's more like Tim Tebow than Dak.

 

[ItzKelz]

Not me. I would be more than happy to face it if I'm wrong about Hurts. Remind me in a couple of years if he pans out, and I will start a thread declaring that you were right and I was wrong about him. No one is right all the time. But man, Hurts is just so awful as a passer, I cannot fathom him becoming a quality starter.

Hurts = Terrelle Pryor.

Geez this makes me believe that you didnt watch either of these players play.

 

[cern]

Not me. I would be more than happy to face it if I'm wrong about Hurts. Remind me in a couple of years if he pans out, and I will start a thread declaring that you were right and I was wrong about him. No one is right all the time. But man, Hurts is just so awful as a passer, I cannot fathom him becoming a quality starter.

Hurts = Terrelle Pryor.

just had this thought. last year we drafted another rb besides pollard. both of us thought he'd end up being the better player and make the team. but he went the way of bo scarborough and pollard proved to be the best player. perhaps we're wrong from time to time.

 

[kskboys]

I guess I weigh in here.

There are 2 glaring holes we need to plan for and this is the draft for it.

One is center. People keep saying we can just move a 2nd or 3rd level player in and retrain him. Are you people crazy?

Do you remember how things were a disaster before Beard? Are you really going to not protect DAK and Zeke by throwing in a wanna be guy?

Absolutely not. It will not be sexy..but the way this team is constructed to win..the OL MUST be rock solid with as many injury -free type players as we can put up front. This is not even a second thought.

Two-Whether or not Dak plays under the Tag in 2020, our backup QBs are not talented enough to wn for us. They do not have the pedigrees.

We have to draft a QB who will fit the new offense. At the very least, we are back in 2016 where we needed Romo's backup and took Dak. Now we need DAK's potential replacement.

If Dak takes the Tag and plays..next year is unknown. Somebody needs to be readied. If something happens to DAK again like his shoulder or legs..we need somebody with punch to step in.

If Dak leaves after this year becuz we can not afford another Tag year..we need somebody in the pipeline.

So debate until the cows come home.

I just think if these two items are not highly addressed...

Katie bar the door.

I agree, and was thinking the same thing about C just the other day. If McG can't handle the position at a high level, we're screwed.

Zach Shackleford in the mid rounds. Jake Hansen maybe. These guys are ox-strong and at the very least can't be moved.

 

[kskboys]

Geez this makes me believe that you didnt watch either of these players play.

I was kinda thinking the same thing about you!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, Hurts is not an NFL passer. I'm looking at their NFL careers, not their college careers. If Hurts hadn't played at a big school, no one would know who he is and he might not even be drafted. He's being overrated because he played on the big stage. He has leadership and poise like Tebow, but the passing deficiencies are just too glaring.

 

[bb721]

Disgusted. Hurts is less accurate than Dak.

I’m not saying that we should draft him, but his completion percentage last year was 70%

 

[kskboys]

just had this thought. last year we drafted another rb besides pollard. both of us thought he'd end up being the better player and make the team. but he went the way of bo scarborough and pollard proved to be the best player. perhaps we're wrong from time to time.

I wasn't crazy about the Bo pick.

 

[Jake]

I like Hurts as a person, but not as an NFL QB, but I would LOVE taking him in the 2nd rd..... for one reason only. It would send the message loud and clear that we are ok with letting Dak go be the QB in a place like SD where his national exposure, and as a result his endorsement money would dry up. Let that slap you in the face dak because we arent making you a top 5 paid qb, and if you think you are sniffing anything near what Mahomes is about to get, you will be sniffing it on another team.

Yeah, that'll show him - taking a guy you admittedly don't like as an NFL QB in the 2nd round.

 

[kskboys]

I’m not saying that we should draft him, but his completion percentage last year was 70%

READ THE SCOUTING REPORTS

In the words of the scouts: "Possesses only zip code accuracy, routinely forcing his receivers to adjust to poorly thrown and mistimed balls-very much on display at the Senior Bowl. Impressive Comp % at OU was inflated by quick easy screens and dump offs to backs."

 

[kskboys]

disagree

im comparing them as rookies coming in to play their first games, very similar so taking him 4th round is the same to me , we can use Hurts for a lot of things while dak maybe playing out his last season, at worst hes daks backup used like THill..

I am a TX Longhorn fan watched hurts a lot and when he was at AL plus his combine got rve reviews..

dak was a 4th rounder for reason as will Jhurts, they both had work to do, daks improved sure but we are talking as a rookie coming in before their first games..I think JHurts will be good at 4 and get some training , baptismal by fire , he will be better the Rush and at the moment that who hes taking snaps from, Not dak..

I remember dak in 2017 being compared to Quincy or Tebow when pressured, I see that at times even last year, just hucking balls up forcing ducks out.. its the difference between a passer and a thrower..

Rush is not an NFL QB, so that's not a stretch.

Not similar at all.

 

[blueblood70]

Rush is not an NFL QB, so that's not a stretch.

Not similar at all.

says you we disagree leave it be.. now im praying the draft Jhurts because you dont like him..

 

[kskboys]

says you we disagree leave it be.. now im praying the draft Jhurts because you dont like him..

OK by me. I want to win way more than I want to be right.

 

[JoeKing]

Hmmm...that sounds a lot like...well...everybody.

You say that because you are incapable of thinking outside the four walls of the way you operate. But there are others like me that are willing to give the people in charge the benefit of a doubt that they know what they are doing.

 

[ItzKelz]

I was kinda thinking the same thing about you!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, Hurts is not an NFL passer. I'm looking at their NFL careers, not their college careers. If Hurts hadn't played at a big school, no one would know who he is and he might not even be drafted. He's being overrated because he played on the big stage. He has leadership and poise like Tebow, but the passing deficiencies are just too glaring.

I never brought up Pryor.

Anyways I was down on Hurts prior to the Georgia game when he put the team on his back after sitting the entire season to win the game. In fact if you ask people inside my circle of sports friends I was his biggest hater. However, in that specific game he showed tremendous growth in the pocket and with progression. He was a totally different player and IMO he was a much better player than Tua. I think most assume that Tua is better because he came into college as a already developed passer and Hurts on the other hand developed while in college as a passer much like Dak did.

Anyone that questions it only needs to look at what he did in OU. Many were giving credit to Lincoln Riley for the development of Hurts as a passer (many Cowboys fans wanted Riley as our coach because of it) but really Hurts developed while at Alabama its just no one saw it because he was not playing. I offer the Georgia comeback as proof.

 

[Dre11]

Nothing against Hurts but
Saying Hurts isn't as fast as Jackson is pretty big understatement.
Jackson is usually faster than the entire defense. Hurts is faster than 4 or 5 at most.
Plus, Jackson's arm strength is WAY higher than Hurts.

Hurts is much more like Dak than Jackson

they have the same negative comparisons coming out of College. they basically said both Jackson and Hurts were not NFL passers, both were talked about playing other positions and actually there are some who say Hurts deep ball accuracy is better than Lamar. The biggest difference is speed.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

they have the same negative comparisons coming out of College. they basically said both Jackson and Hurts were not NFL passers, both were talked about playing other positions and actually there are some who say Hurts deep ball accuracy is better than Lamar. The biggest difference is speed.

I don't think they're very similar at all. IMO Jackson is better at basically everything than Hurts. Jackson's accuracy was in question, I guess, but I think he has a much more live arm, a quicker arm, and is more accurate than Hurts.