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Thats my point

What point is that? That 32 teams missed on him at least twice? So you would recommend doing the same thing and missing out on a potentially great pass rusher?

I'm trying to get clarity on your point here?
 

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What point is that? That 32 teams missed on him at least twice? So you would recommend doing the same thing and missing out on a potentially great pass rusher?

I'm trying to get clarity on your point here?
Hunter was drafted there because of the exact same deficiencies as Chaisson
Just because they went to the same school doesnt mean he will have a career like Hunter.
Now, could I be wrong , hell yeah, I'm an armchair college fan but I stand by my stance that he should have done more in that defense last year with the talent around him.
I'm sure he is in play for us at 17 and I'll be po'd if we take but I'll be hoping all his adorers are right.....
 

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Hunter was drafted there because of the exact same deficiencies as Chaisson
Just because they went to the same school doesnt mean he will have a career like Hunter.
Now, could I be wrong , hell yeah, I'm an armchair college fan but I stand by my stance that he should have done more in that defense last year with the talent around him.
I'm sure he is in play for us at 17 and I'll be po'd if we take but I'll be hoping all his adorers are right.....

Chaisson was their only true edge rusher and was excellent over the second half, particularly the last 3-4 games in the SECC and the playoff games. The fact that he was coming off a torn ACL has to be taken into account.
 

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Hunter was drafted there because of the exact same deficiencies as Chaisson
Just because they went to the same school doesnt mean he will have a career like Hunter.

No, but that's only one of the similarities I mentioned, as well as mediocre college stats (Hunter's were far worse) and then Hunter exploding at the NFL level. To me, he's a good comp. That might not be the same for everyone.

Now, could I be wrong , hell yeah, I'm an armchair college fan but I stand by my stance that he should have done more in that defense last year with the talent around him.
I'm sure he is in play for us at 17 and I'll be po'd if we take but I'll be hoping all his adorers are right.....


Fair enough, different strokes for different folks. And I can't blame anyone for having concerns.
 

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Chaisson was their only true edge rusher and was excellent over the second half, particularly the last 3-4 games in the SECC and the playoff games. The fact that he was coming off a torn ACL has to be taken into account.
I hear you and his play in the final four impressed me more than the season itself....
 

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He plays the run very well which is actually one of his strengths. He also effectively missed his sophomore season having played in just one game due to injury, but I’m sure you knew that, right?


I did know that he didnt play his sophomore but 6.5 sacks against college competition last year? I'm sorry but by any standard that is low production.

Chase Young had 10.5 sacks his sophomore season - 16.5 last season
Gross-Matos had 8 sacks his sophomore season - 9.5 last season
A.J. Epenesa had 10.5 sacks his sophomore season - 11.5 last season

heck Taco had 10.5 sacks his last year in college

and if he is so strong against the run then why are the reports with Dallas about using him on passing downs?
 

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I believe we liked Hunter a lot but we drafted randy gregory in the 2nd.
 

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I did know that he didnt play his sophomore but 6.5 sacks against college competition last year? I'm sorry but by any standard that is low production.

Chase Young had 10.5 sacks his sophomore season - 16.5 last season
Gross-Matos had 8 sacks his sophomore season - 9.5 last season
A.J. Epenesa had 10.5 sacks his sophomore season - 11.5 last season

heck Taco had 10.5 sacks his last year in college

and if he is so strong against the run then why are the reports with Dallas about using him on passing downs?

teams dont just draft by stats alone,they look how a player will transition into the NFL too.
 

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teams dont just draft by stats alone,they look how a player will transition into the NFL too.


I get that - completely get that but that was also my original point. He is considered to have lots of upside. A project so to speak.

I do not think we can risk drafting a player in the first round that is a project. We need a day one starter and we need major help at corner now and in the future.

I also believe Dallas is very close to competing for a Super Bowl. We need 3 guys that can start day one with our first 3 picks. No projects.
 

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I get that - completely get that but that was also my original point. He is considered to have lots of upside. A project so to speak.

I do not think we can risk drafting a player in the first round that is a project. We need a day one starter and we need major help at corner now and in the future.

I also believe Dallas is very close to competing for a Super Bowl. We need 3 guys that can start day one with our first 3 picks. No projects.

we do need a corner but it is no guarantee a corner we draft (outside of Henderson) will start day 1 even if we draft a CB in the first 2 RDs,generally they take time to mature as its a hard position to learn.
 

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we do need a corner but it is no guarantee a corner we draft (outside of Henderson) will start day 1 even if we draft a CB in the first 2 RDs,generally they take time to mature as its a hard position to learn.


I think Fulton could start day one also. Some have him projected ahead on Henderson
 

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I did know that he didnt play his sophomore but 6.5 sacks against college competition last year? I'm sorry but by any standard that is low production.

Chase Young had 10.5 sacks his sophomore season - 16.5 last season
Gross-Matos had 8 sacks his sophomore season - 9.5 last season
A.J. Epenesa had 10.5 sacks his sophomore season - 11.5 last season

heck Taco had 10.5 sacks his last year in college

and if he is so strong against the run then why are the reports with Dallas about using him on passing downs?
What reports about Dallas using him just on passing downs?
 

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I get that - completely get that but that was also my original point. He is considered to have lots of upside. A project so to speak.

I do not think we can risk drafting a player in the first round that is a project. We need a day one starter and we need major help at corner now and in the future.

I also believe Dallas is very close to competing for a Super Bowl. We need 3 guys that can start day one with our first 3 picks. No projects.
1: Tyron Smith was a much bigger project when we took him. He almost made the Pro Bowl as a rookie. Not all "projects" are the same. Chaisson will be a day 1 contributor for whomever drafts him

2: If you are expecting 3 guys that can start day 1, then you are expecting way too much. Also that is something that happens with bad teams. Good teams usually dont have that many spots they desperately need a rookie to fill
 

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I'm not huge on Chaisson

But there really aren't that many better alternatives at 17

3 WRs
Kinlaw
Henderson
Chaisson

This is basically the group we are looking at..unless you want an OT, which I do not...there definitely are not many, if any other names that are better than him

For those of you who don't want Chaisson. Who would you rather have that isn't in that group above...let's just assume

Burrow
Young
Simmons
Brown
Okudah
Tua
Herbert are all gone

Again, me personally, I'm not interested in an OT..So for the sake of this exercise, let's just forget all of them
 

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You love D. Hunter


And I don't blame ya

Yep.

And for all of the salary cap issues the Vikings have had, they got two really good contracts in Hunter and Adam Thelien.
 

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I'm not huge on Chaisson

But there really aren't that many better alternatives at 17

3 WRs
Kinlaw
Henderson
Chaisson

This is basically the group we are looking at..unless you want an OT, which I do not...there definitely are not many, if any other names that are better than him

For those of you who don't want Chaisson. Who would you rather have that isn't in that group above...let's just assume

Burrow
Young
Simmons
Brown
Okudah
Tua
Herbert are all gone

Again, me personally, I'm not interested in an OT..So for the sake of this exercise, let's just forget all of them

i would take Becton at 17.
 
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