Do the Cowboys bring back WR Tavon Austin?

quickccc

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I'm a little surprised there hasn't been more movement here....Bring him back? or move on?...I'm in the camp of bring him back....Incentive deal.

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no surprise ? ... no movement ? .... maybe that means the guy is no good ? LOL

... especially when we now have a qualified, experienced special teams coach who has personally worked with him to be familiar
with Tavon's mishaps, timid decision making and fumbles ?

Let's see if it's some new and improved and fresh quick darting slot/returners in this WR strong draft class we can get, than trying to stay with the
same ole broken song and trying to stay with the same status quo of an average hands, timid route running, injury prone, special teams mistake prone fumbler ? :laugh:
 

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I'm glad they haven't signed Austin, and it seems like some ppl at the Star has their minds right about player eval and team building. Tavon isn't a good punt returner and that's what they need from a smaller type WR if he doesn't shine as a true WR.
 

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I think they would have already acted to secure Tavon's services if they wanted him.
 

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I feel the Cowboys have seen enough of Tavon to convince them that he's not the answer to their needs. His ability to impact the team on a regular basis just isn't there. He's had problems with various injuries that render him unavailable way too often. Tony Pollard is proving to be a better option, both as a runner and receiver. As I understand it, the Cowboys are planning to use him more generously this year. I suspect they'll be glad they did. :)
 
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I'm not sure Pollard isn't field faster than Tavon. Tavon's speed doesn't translate to the field.

Imo, Pollard has build up speed once he gets momentum rolling,..whereas guys like Tavon, Lucky Whitehead, take very little time in instant burst quickness and acceleration..especially when it comes to jet sweeps, but it still is a matter of hitting the edge with authority and reckless abandon, not cruising or running it timid in finding a safe spot and laying down fast as Tavon eventually was getting into a groove at more and more, ..and you have to have the instant speed which Ryan Switzer did not have and was miserable at jet sweeps.:(
 

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Imo, Pollard has build up speed once he gets momentum rolling,..whereas guys like Tavon, Lucky Whitehead, take very little time in instant burst quickness and acceleration..especially when it comes to jet sweeps, but it still is a matter of hitting the edge with authority and reckless abandon, not cruising or running it timid in finding a safe spot and laying down fast as Tavon eventually was getting into a groove at more and more, ..and you have to have the instant speed which Ryan Switzer did not have and was miserable at jet sweeps.:(
Pollard seems like a more natural receiver. Tavon is fast but he is not a deep threat receiver he needs the ball in space call it the beasley zone within 10 yards of the LOS but his build limits that. Unless his guy blows a coverage he is not going up to get one. Neither is pollard but Pollard is listed as RB not a WR and can do things as a threat out of the backfield, playaction pas to him, motion him out to the slot, motion him from the slot to the backfield.
 

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Pollard seems like a more natural receiver. Tavon is fast but he is not a deep threat receiver he needs the ball in space call it the beasley zone within 10 yards of the LOS but his build limits that. Unless his guy blows a coverage he is not going up to get one. Neither is pollard but Pollard is listed as RB not a WR and can do things as a threat out of the backfield, playaction pas to him, motion him out to the slot, motion him from the slot to the backfield.

But my question would be since Pollard was so very rarely used as a receiver out of backfield, how do we know how natural a receiver he really is ? Kellen very much under-used him as a receiver (until the Detroit game where he caught the ball on a shallow route out of the slot for a TD) there were a couple of wheel routes
and screen where he didn't adjust well to,.. probably from a lack of reps and inexperience at NFL level.
This is where i'm hoping McCarthy and skip Peete will end up helping out Kellen and better developing and scheming Pollard as a receiving weapon.

- Tavon can probably get deep quicker down the field in a straight line than any other receiver on the roster.
the guy is a legit 4.35 flyer, but what good is a flyer if he cannot catch worth a damn ? He is definitely not a natural receiver - and you're right Austin is average
in this area, not only does Austin has average hands (.there were deep balls that dropped right from his hands after running under the throw)
he doesn't possess a knack or feel for the pass game, that's what makes him useless as a slot guy and that hurts this offense and wastes a roster spot, imo.

- and up until this past year, he was always hurt in some fashion or another, so there was always a question of his toughness, Seems to do his best work on gimmick, gadget plays, ..smoke/bubble screens, jet sweeps, and go- fly, deep bomb routes, ...
- he used to be a deadly open field punt returner, but it seems he is becoming more timid, more sideways east-west instead of north and south straight-up field, has questionable punt return hands and decision making,
- and his run skills have become more and more timid and tentative the longer he is in the league. He wants an open spot to run and then fall down to avoid a hit.
 

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But my question would be since Pollard was so very rarely used as a receiver out of backfield, how do we know how natural a receiver he really is ? Kellen very much under-used him as a receiver (until the Detroit game where he caught the ball on a shallow route out of the slot for a TD) there were a couple of wheel routes
and screen where he didn't adjust well to,.. probably from a lack of reps and inexperience at NFL level.
This is where i'm hoping McCarthy and skip Peete will end up helping out Kellen and better developing and scheming Pollard as a receiving weapon.

- Tavon can probably get deep quicker down the field in a straight line than any other receiver on the roster.
the guy is a legit 4.35 flyer, but what good is a flyer if he cannot catch worth a damn ? He is definitely not a natural receiver - and you're right Austin is average
in this area, not only does Austin has average hands (.there were deep balls that dropped right from his hands after running under the throw)
he doesn't possess a knack or feel for the pass game, that's what makes him useless as a slot guy and that hurts this offense and wastes a roster spot, imo.

- and up until this past year, he was always hurt in some fashion or another, so there was always a question of his toughness, Seems to do his best work on gimmick, gadget plays, ..smoke/bubble screens, jet sweeps, and go- fly, deep bomb routes, ...
- he used to be a deadly open field punt returner, but it seems he is becoming more timid, more sideways east-west instead of north and south straight-up field, has questionable punt return hands and decision making,
- and his run skills have become more and more timid and tentative the longer he is in the league. He wants an open spot to run and then fall down to avoid a hit.

His groin injury two years ago, the rumor was it was pulled from the bone, had no surgery and it healed. I am just wondering how effective his cutting is on that groin. Him being used as a deep threat is laughable because every defense pretty has no respect for his skill. I would like to see him in the Beasley role where he just runs slant, and crossing patterns from the slot.
 

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Good time to shed some fringe players. MM can expertly fill these spots with "his own guys".
 

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Former Cowboys who I wouldn't mind bringing back:

Tavon
Maybe Michael Bennett
Dez
Ron Leary
Geoff Swaim
 

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I'm a little surprised there hasn't been more movement here....Bring him back? or move on?...I'm in the camp of bring him back....Incentive deal.

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not sure what he brings to the table. he is so limited in many areas. and he is not that valuable on special teams. as the 4th or 5th WR you better be really good on special teams...he is not

and at this stage of his career, there is no upside. he is what he is. he is not going to become better or improve or be developed.

perhaps time to move on with someone that is younger and perhaps we can invest in to develop
 

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His groin injury two years ago, the rumor was it was pulled from the bone, had no surgery and it healed. I am just wondering how effective his cutting is on that groin. Him being used as a deep threat is laughable because every defense pretty has no respect for his skill. I would like to see him in the Beasley role where he just runs slant, and crossing patterns from the slot.
He can't stay healthy in that role.
 

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Watching Skip and Shannon and they said some experts have us taking JJ from the tide with the 17th pick. Have to admit have not seen that mock draft.
 
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