News: Helman: Stop Trying To Make Dalton About Dak

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Garrett had Jerry's ear though he probably lost it last season. Jerry wanted so much to be right about Garrett, but the embarrassing loss to the eagles 2nd and 3rd teamers sealed his fate. It's stephen's show now. It's about time.
Mike and I are okay with you thinking it's Stephen's show now. It's perfectly okay. We know the truth,
 

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why is this weasel lecturing the fan about what to think and what to say . Mr Helman maybe the fan just tired of Dak shenanigan and want to start fresh with Andy.
 

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It's real nice of Bilbo Baggins to let everyone know how to think about the Dalton signing.
 

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:clap::clap::clap:Bingo!!!!!! In other words, IF I'm caring the clipboard this year, why do it at home if possible so I don't have to relocate my family again after a year. We heard nothing to suggest Cowboys/MM were looking to replace Rush this year and honestly why would they, Dak's never missed a game. What they have promised is to have a young developing QB in the room. I'm guessing his desire to play here on a cheap deal was just too good to pass up. Some are making seem as if the Cowboys recruited him coz of issues with Dak. I don't see that at all BUT now that he's signed his presence will obviously create ongoing questions.
Replacing rush is throwing out more Garrett trash that should have never been here in the first place.
 

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Over this past decade it has always been Stephen's show if it appeared the Cowboys were on a roll, and if we were struggling or made an unfavorable key decision it was Jerry's show.

That stated, I wouldn't mind a new act at general management.
 

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It's clear it's always been about Dak for the people obsessed with how much they hate people like him.

First it was, "I don't hate him or anything, but let's be honest: Dak is obviously terrible. Why aren't we starting Cooper Rush?"

Then it was, "Look, forget what I said about Dak being terrible. I actually have nothing against him. I like him, but I just think we're not helping ourselves if we have to spend those resources on the QB position instead of being able to spend them stockpiling around the QB. That's how teams win these days, building the strongest all-around team instead of a top-heavy QB-based roster."

Then it was, "Actually, never mind that, let's trade 3 future first rounders to move up and get Burrow. I know I said before that we need to surround the QB with tons of talent and that makes it patently absurd that I'm now suggesting we draft Burrow and then don't get to draft 1st rounders again to put around him until it's time to re-sign him. But yeah."

Then it was, "Oh, you know what? Never mind me wanting to give away our 1st rounders for 3 years. Now I've decided that actually 1st rounders are super valuable and that's why we have to trade Dak for more 1st rounders. 1st rounders are the lifeblood of NFL teams. Look, I'm on record as saying I like Dak personally. I maybe even love him. I just think the 1st rounders he's worth are too valuable to keep him instead of taking the 1st rounders. We have to. It's a value, economics decision at the end of the day, all personal feelings aside."

Then it was, "Ooh, what if we sign Brady or Rivers? No, not Bridgewater. No, not Winston. No, not Newton. Don't ask me to elaborate why I like the guys I like and dislike the guys I don't. I know I said before that we shouldn't spend starter money on a QB, but actually now I want to spend starter money on a QB so long as it isn't someone like Dak. I'm fine with paying Tom or Phil starter money."

Then it was, "Remember how I said we need to make the smartest move possible, 'all personal feelings aside'? Yeah, forget that. I actually think we should rescind the franchise tag and cut Dak loose to shame him and punish him because now it's personal. We'll still get a 3rd round compensatory pick so it's cool."

Then it was, "Okay, the deadline for losses and acquisitions impacting the comp picks has passed. I still want us to rescind the tag and get literally nothing for him. That's how insane my hatred for him is."
 

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Over this past decade it has always been Stephen's show if it appeared the Cowboys were on a roll, and if we were struggling or made an unfavorable key decision it was Jerry's show.

That stated, I wouldn't mind a new act at general management.
This is first year Jerry didn’t go to the Senior Bowl. Stephen and McClay have been doing all the radio appearances in town during the offseason. If there was even a chance Jerry was still managing day to day, he would have been gushing over McCarthy every second he could to try to improve ticket sales (before the COVID drama hit)

I said this after the Senior Bowl: Jerry still makes the final authorization for big decisions like first round picks, coaching moves, big signing/trades. But he isn’t involved in contract negotiations.

Zeke said last year in September he hadn’t heard from Jerry since April when he’d gone to the first OTA. Jerry wasn’t present for DLaws contract signing press conference.

Jerry is like the president of most companies. He gets briefings on the day to day activities, and is involved in the big moves, but he’s not breaking down tape, and if McCarthy/Will/Stephen said this is what needs to be done then he’ll sign off
 

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FRISCO, Texas – Never before have I seen so much uproar about the Cowboys doing something so smart.

That's the territory we've entered into with the quarterback position – specifically, with Dak Prescott and this ongoing contract dispute.

The obvious news, in case you haven't heard: the Cowboys agreed to terms with veteran quarterback Andy Dalton on Saturday, and they signed him Monday. The longtime Cincinnati Bengal joins the Cowboys with 133 career starts, three Pro Bowl bids and five playoff appearances under his belt.

What's more, the Cowboys got him at a pretty great bargain. The reported terms of Dalton's one-year deal are for a total of $7 million, but much of that is based on playing time incentives. If Dalton holds a clipboard for 16 games as Prescott's backup, he'll be due just $3 million.

Essentially, the Cowboys have found themselves one of the most experienced backups in the league for a solid discount. Dalton's base salary is less than at least four other backup quarterbacks. It's a fraction of what the New Orleans Saints just paid to their Swiss Army Knife backup, Taysom Hill.

https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/helman-stop-trying-to-make-dalton-about-dak
I just don't understand why people can't see it is both a smart move to have a solid backup and it also removes leverage from Daks side.

The two concepts are not mutually exclusive.
 

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I agree. This forum should not be torn apart nor should we argue about this and get mad at each other.

Pre-season will surely come along and Dalton can prove then he should be the starting QB with accurate throwing unlike Dak's wobbly passes that go over and behind the receivers.

Until then we need to be civil about the whole deal and be more kind to each other.
 

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This is first year Jerry didn’t go to the Senior Bowl. Stephen and McClay have been doing all the radio appearances in town during the offseason. If there was even a chance Jerry was still managing day to day, he would have been gushing over McCarthy every second he could to try to improve ticket sales (before the COVID drama hit)

I said this after the Senior Bowl: Jerry still makes the final authorization for big decisions like first round picks, coaching moves, big signing/trades. But he isn’t involved in contract negotiations.

Zeke said last year in September he hadn’t heard from Jerry since April when he’d gone to the first OTA. Jerry wasn’t present for DLaws contract signing press conference.

Jerry is like the president of most companies. He gets briefings on the day to day activities, and is involved in the big moves, but he’s not breaking down tape, and if McCarthy/Will/Stephen said this is what needs to be done then he’ll sign off

I think when it comes to contract Stephen has been at the forefront. I don't think that is a secret

Stephen Jones:
Chief Operating Officer / Executive Vice President / Director of Player Personnel.

I also do not think he hands out a 35 mill or more contract without Jerry approval but in terms of negotiation of the deal that falls to Stephen and has for a good while now
 

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I just don't understand why people can't see it is both a smart move to have a solid backup and it also removes leverage from Daks side.

The two concepts are not mutually exclusive.

I just think it is a lot less to do with Dak contract and more about getting a vet backup. Being honest if you look at our backup situation it is as raw as you can get with an UDFA and a 7th rd rookie. I think McCarthy was going to press for a vet backup regardless of Dak contract.
 

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The Cowboys MO for years has been to skimp on the backup QB position. Suddenly the starter is asking to be overpaid and may hold out, and the Cowboys sign a veteran former starter. You have to be in unbelievable levels of denial to not acknowledge the connection.

Why is that?????? We did NOT recruit him. He contacted Dallas to see if we were interested. Prior to this signing, we heard nothing about upgrading the QB backup position. Only that they wanted to consistently have a developmental QB in the room. In other words, they were content to ride the season with Rush as Dak backup but Dalton's interest and willingness to play for pennies were too good to pass up. So as much as others wanna think there's a connection, it isn't, plain and simple.

 

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I agree. This forum should not be torn apart nor should we argue about this and get mad at each other.

Pre-season will surely come along and Dalton can prove then he should be the starting QB with accurate throwing unlike Dak's wobbly passes that go over and behind the receivers.

Until then we need to be civil about the whole deal and be more kind to each other.

lol. how civil. So Dak either signs the tag for 31 mill and Dallas sits him on the bench for Dalton? Or Dallas sign Dak long term for around 35 mill a year and then sits him on the bench for Dalton? I'm speechless. lol
 

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lol. how civil. So Dak either signs the tag for 31 mill and Dallas sits him on the bench for Dalton? Or Dallas sign Dak long term for around 35 mill a year and then sits him on the bench for Dalton? I'm speechless. lol

 

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Helman is mostly right but there are a lot of unknowns. We know what the Jones family keeps telling us about how "all in" they are on Dak but is that 100% true ultimately? Especially at the price Dak's agents are taking the Cowboys to the woodshed/hostage for?

If I owned a business, not sure I'd like one employee (even if they are really good and really important) hold the future of the said business hostage for very long. They may truly like Dak as they say but they also might be ready to explore other options at some point or have contingencies. Sure they can pre-face it with (we wanted to improve our backup situation) but I do doubt that it is all. They are thinking contingency given Dak's contract situation. They have to be.
 

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Can you imagine if we had puled the trigger on this earlier and picked up two first round picks for Dak on the non exclusive tag. A reasonable QB on a cheap deal, 2 extra firsts and 30 million extra to spend. A solid organization could go over the top with something like that. Jerruh would waste it all on shiny toys though.
 

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You will never convince me that having a reasonable second option at an incredible price has no effect. Having said that Jerruh will cave any day now and Dak will get everything he wants.
 
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