Dallas should rescind the franchise tag and let Dak walk

Flamma

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Ah, but time is money. The sooner you get it, the more its worth. I'm not arguing years on a contract. I'm saying its better to get 30 million today than a year from today. Leveon Bell played this game and lost big time. He'll never recoup the money he turned down in Pittsburgh. I think the reason Dak and Dallas are so far apart is b/c Daks agent is trying to recoup the 29.6M they left on the table last year. Dak needs to be in the 37M/year range on a 4 year deal for what he did last year to make any sense.
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Bell was different. He actually lost money. Lets say Dak holds out this season, he'll lose money. But as of right now he hasn't lost a dime. He just pushed it forward a year. And it's only the signing bonus. It's like if I owed you 50 bucks and paid you tomorrow instead of today. It's still 50 bucks.
 

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Yeah, I mean really. I’ve thrown house parties for 30 people since this COVID crap started. NOT. Only an ****** moron does that, and only another moron from the same team would attend. They're both selfish idiots.
 
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Yeah, I mean really. I’ve thrown house parties for 30 people since this COVID crap started. NOT. Only en ****** moron does that, and only another moron from the same team would attend. They're both selfish idiots.
Dak came out and explained it was less than 10 people (within state restrictions) who attended what was a dinner celebration for a dear female friend. I also was upset as you are, but it's hard to verify it was 30 people when there is no proof.
 

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Yeah, I mean really. I’ve thrown house parties for 30 people since this COVID crap started. NOT. Only an ****** moron does that, and only another moron from the same team would attend. They're both selfish idiots.
Can your house even hold 30 people? He's not a moron because he doesn't believe what you believe. That's the people with too many think their way is the only way smh.
 

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The story hasn’t been and shouldn’t be written yet. The career just started.Defending. Defending Troy Aikman. Shouldn’t even be a question. First ridiculous statement. Second calling Prescott an ant .
Ok, maybe not an ant. Maybe a checkdown robo groundhog.
 

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It's amazing this thread is going strong after 29 pages! :omg: I don't get it. :huh:

The blockhead who started it is probably enjoying himself.

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It's amazing this thread is going strong after 29 pages! :omg: I don't get it. :huh:

The blockhead who started it is probably enjoying himself.

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A lot of people feel the way I do, it seems.
Dak isn't the best quarterback available, and he isn't a franchise quarterback.
I don't dislike Dak. He just isn't the guy.
 

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Bell was different. He actually lost money. Lets say Dak holds out this season, he'll lose money. But as of right now he hasn't lost a dime. He just pushed it forward a year. And it's only the signing bonus. It's like if I owed you 50 bucks and paid you tomorrow instead of today. It's still 50 bucks.[/QUOTE]

I disagree.

He needs to land a contract that averages around 35 million per year over 6 years to recoup the 29.4M he left on the table last year. Here's why...Lets say at the beginning of 2019, Dak had 7 seasons left to earn top dollar. In scenerio 1, he makes 400k in 2019 and then averages 33 million over the next 6 seasons. His total earnings over those 7 seasons is 198.4M. In scenerio 2, he signs a 7 year deal prior to the 2019 season that averages 30 million. His total earnings are now 210M . So you can see that he's ahead over 10M by signing last year for less money.

Now if Todd France wants to make last year look like a win he needs to do better than 35M........a lot better or Dak risked injury for an entire year for no reason.
 

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A lot of people feel the way I do, it seems.
Dak isn't the best quarterback available, and he isn't a franchise quarterback.
I don't dislike Dak. He just isn't the guy.
If I learned anything in life. The majority is usually always wrong. Definitely in this case
 

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I disagree.

He needs to land a contract that averages around 35 million per year over 6 years to recoup the 29.4M he left on the table last year. Here's why...Lets say at the beginning of 2019, Dak had 7 seasons left to earn top dollar. In scenerio 1, he makes 400k in 2019 and then averages 33 million over the next 6 seasons. His total earnings over those 7 seasons is 198.4M. In scenerio 2, he signs a 7 year deal prior to the 2019 season that averages 30 million. His total earnings are now 210M . So you can see that he's ahead over 10M by signing last year for less money.

Now if Todd France wants to make last year look like a win he needs to do better than 35M........a lot better or Dak risked injury for an entire year for no reason.

You're not understanding what I'm saying. It doesn't work the way you're explaining it. Your scenario 2 can't and wouldn't happen. Dak is making 400k in 2019 no matter when he signs an extension. His rookie contract years cannot be replaced. Dak's new contract will start in 2020. Even if he signed an extension back in 2018. It starts in 2020.

Just look at Zeke's contract. He signed a 6 year deal prior to 2019 averaging 15m per. Did he get 15 mil in 2019? No, he got 752k. Is he getting it next year? No, he's on the 5th year option money. His contract extension starts in 2021.
 

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You're not understanding what I'm saying. It doesn't work the way you're explaining it. Your scenario 2 can't and wouldn't happen. Dak is making 400k in 2019 no matter when he signs an extension. His rookie contract years cannot be replaced. Dak's new contract will start in 2020. Even if he signed an extension back in 2018. It starts in 2020.

Just look at Zeke's contract. He signed a 6 year deal prior to 2019 averaging 15m per. Did he get 15 mil in 2019? No, he got 752k. Is he getting it next year? No, he's on the 5th year option money. His contract extension starts in 2021.

I been trying to explain that to people for almost a year now lol. I gave up.
 

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You're not understanding what I'm saying. It doesn't work the way you're explaining it. Your scenario 2 can't and wouldn't happen. Dak is making 400k in 2019 no matter when he signs an extension. His rookie contract years cannot be replaced. Dak's new contract will start in 2020. Even if he signed an extension back in 2018. It starts in 2020.

Just look at Zeke's contract. He signed a 6 year deal prior to 2019 averaging 15m per. Did he get 15 mil in 2019? No, he got 752k. Is he getting it next year? No, he's on the 5th year option money. His contract extension starts in 2021.

It would never happen so says you? How convenient.

You are not understanding the concept of getting money sooner being more valuable.......... and FYI, Zeke got 8.2M in 2019 not 752k. I know this is tough to understand but the signing bonus is not monopoly money and makes his base salary irrelevent in 2019..........and oh yeah, the cowboys waived their right to a 5th year option.
 
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It would never happen so says you? How convenient.

You are not understanding the concept of getting money sooner being more valuable.......... and FYI, Zeke got 8.2M in 2019 not 752k. I know this is tough to understand but the signing bonus is not monopoly money and makes his base salary irrelevent in 2019..........and oh yeah, the cowboys waived their right to a 5th year option.

I'm not saying it wouldn't happen out of convenience. It simply doesn't happen. And yes he did make 752k, the rest was signing bonus. Which I told in in the first post was the only difference. 752k + 7,500, 000 signing bonus = 8.2 million. His actual 6 year extension starts in 2021.

The concept of getting money sooner is different than losing money. If Dak signed when Zeke did he still would have made 450k + signing bonus. He didn't. So his bonus is postponed. But he didn't lose any dollar amount.
 
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