If Jerry pays Dak and it doesn't work out, the empire will crumble

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If they don't believe in him they shouldn't sign him at all. Obviously they do.
It's not about believing in him. It's about player evaluation. The evaluation on Dak is a big incomplete. However, in 4 years there will be no doubt.

The "believing in him thingie" is more of a media hype thingie.
 

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It's not about believing in him. It's about player evaluation. The evaluation on Dak is a big incomplete. However, in 4 years there will be no doubt.

The "believing in him thingie" is more of a media hype thingie.
The idea that they are still in doubt, and still an evaluation phase with Dak and consider him a "big incomplete" pretty much indicates they don't yet believe in him - that he's no better than a "maybe", and, again, if they aren't any more convinced that Dak is the right guy than that, they shouldn't commit $100 million + to him. A team doesn't give up $100+ million with the idea that it will take 4 years to decide if they should have done that. They have to be convinced up front that it is a good investment. Whether they are right or wrong, I think the Cowboys have already decided Dak is the right guy.
 
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Are the Cowboys still America's Team? I don't think so.
Most of the fans like myself who remember why the Cowboys became the greatest franchise in sports are sick of what we see. Jerry slapped every fan in the face for 13 years and didn't care what we thought while he used the sales from the team to live royally and forced us to endure the incompetence of Jason Garrett.
The Cowboys are more of a punchline nowadays than they are respected. I can only speak for myself, but I am sick of what the franchise has become.
I had hope that with the hiring of McCarthy that the humiliations of the past 13 years would end, but now we are enduring yet another issue in which the Cowboys simply ignore their fans and common sense.
If Jerry pays Dak and Dak doesn't produce, I think many fans like myself will be done.
I think Jerry has wasted all trust that the fans had in him with the insistence of keeping Jason Garrett for 10 years and wasting roster after roster of talent.
By the time Dak's extension is finished, Ezekiel Elliott's prime will be, as well.
And I don't want to hear Stephen using the excuse of "salary cap" limits as a reason for the Cowboys returning to the mediocrity of the Campo era.
Jerry had better get this one right; I don't think the younger fans know the passion with which which us older guys followed the Cowboys.
Jerry could very well be signing the death certificate of the Dallas Cowboys if he ignores the mistakes of the past and jumps right back in to the mess we were in with Garrett.
So Dak's fans should hope he becomes his own franchise.
The fans of the Dallas Cowboys demand much more than the fans of Dak Prescott do from both he and the Cowboys.

You mean our 8-8 "empire" will crumble? Oh darn
 

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My concern is that if JJ pays Dak, he will less likely want to part ways with his investment after investing so much. We know how much he gets attached to things after 10 yrs of following a carrot dangling from a string.
 

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My concern is that if JJ pays Dak, he will less likely want to part ways with his investment after investing so much. We know how much he gets attached to things after 10 yrs of following a carrot dangling from a string.
He let Emmitt walk. He let Larry Allen Walk. He released DeMarcus Ware. He let Prescott permanently replace Romo. There is precedent for him moving on from even top players.
 

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He let Emmitt walk. He let Larry Allen Walk. He released DeMarcus Ware. He let Prescott permanently replace Romo. There is precedent for him moving on from even top players.
Yep.. don’t forget about Dez and Murray too.
 

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The idea that they are still in doubt, and still an evaluation phase with Dak and consider him a "big incomplete" pretty much indicates they don't yet believe in him - that he's no better than a "maybe", and, again, if they aren't any more convinced that Dak is the right guy than that, they shouldn't commit $100 million + to him. A team doesn't give up $100+ million with the idea that it will take 4 years to decide if they should have done that. They have to be convinced up front that it is a good investment. Whether they are right or wrong, I think the Cowboys have already decided Dak is the right guy.
Yep

I mean they have already basically said as much with their “ All In” rhetoric.

And I believe they were ready to meet Daks demands until the public sentiment caused reason for pause. That’s the result of Jerry always playing these negotiations out in the media.

Now he’s trying to present a perception of being tough but I think he’s willing to make Dak the highest paid QB and will Pimp it like Dak is more than worthy of it. Taking it down to the last minute though will provide him more support as a last ditch effort to save the season.
 

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Yep

I mean they have already basically said as much with their “ All In” rhetoric.

And I believe they were ready to meet Daks demands until the public sentiment caused reason for pause. That’s the result of Jerry always playing these negotiations out in the media.

Now he’s trying to present a perception of being tough but I think he’s willing to make Dak the highest paid QB and will Pimp it like Dak is more than worthy of it. Taking it down to the last minute though will provide him more support as a last ditch effort to save the season.

And it keeps the media and fans talking about the Cowboys while nothing else is going on in the offseason.
 

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And it keeps the media and fans talking about the Cowboys while nothing else is going on in the offseason.
Of course.

But Jerry swings with public perception. It influences his moves just like his coaching decision going against everything he wanted to do.

And I believe he’s ready to make Dak the highest paid QB in the league . Public perception isn’t with him right now. But as we get closer to the season, especially if Dak doesn’t sign the Franchise Tag, pressure will mount to get a deal done.

Dak could actually bail him out by signing the tag. Then my money says if Dak gets off to a hot start Jerry steps up during season.
 

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Of course.

But Jerry swings with public perception. It influences his moves just like his coaching decision going against everything he wanted to do.

And I believe he’s ready to make Dak the highest paid QB in the league . Public perception isn’t with him right now. But as we get closer to the season, especially if Dak doesn’t sign the Franchise Tag, pressure will mount to get a deal done.

Dak could actually bail him out by signing the tag. Then my money says if Dak gets off to a hot start Jerry steps up during season.
I think there is a fair chance the parties already know the deal, but they are letting it linger just to keep media attention on the Cowboys.
 

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I'm honestly getting to the point where I would laugh my *** off if he tries his luck in the open market, doesn't get what he thinks he's worth or does by a horrible team, accepts and flounders behind a mediocre team

Some people just need their egos put in check
Hes a good QB, but this needs to happen IMO.
Untag him with the expectation of we will match your best offer
 

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Hes a good QB, but this needs to happen IMO.
Untag him with the expectation of we will match your best offer

Im not saying hes not a good quarterback, above average not elite. Cowboys have made more than a good offer
 

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Im not saying hes not a good quarterback, above average not elite. Cowboys have made more than a good offer

What offer have they made? To my knowledge all we have is ever changing and unsubstantiated reports by media sources trying to sell their product.
 

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Here's a news flash for you. I don't recall anyone electing you as the voice for the fans and what is right or wrong that the Cowboys have done. You can have your opinion but after what you post it just shows you to be a fair weather fan. Just so you know, fair weather fans are just a half a step higher than fans of other teams. Like I've said you need to take note of the loyal Cub fans that waited for generations for over 100 years for a championship before whining about the Cowboys. I know this won't surprise you but there will never be a day where I'll consider your fair weather fan evaluations to mean anything.
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He's not , he's claimed he disowned the team and became a vikings fan. he's been clowned and ran off other board. He's a troll.
 

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are you serious...if Jerry pays Dak, then you will be done with cowboys.

(me on my knees), God please have jerry sign Dak….that would be just awesome...

p.s.
you just trashed garrett….and you blamed Dak and in the past have called him second rate, worse than keenum, etc... so if Dak sucks so bad, does that make Garrett a good coach...given he had 2 division titles and went 1-2 in the playoffs with Dak, or does this mean Dak is good, because he endured Garrett and his incompetence? you certainly can't have it both ways as you are trying to do

I am waiting for your answer :muttley:


lol.. he did this same thing at another board, claimed he turned a vikings fan and disowned the cowboys, now he's doing it again. I sure there's some here that remember it from the ranch.
 

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Also claimed Kellen Moore was the best qb on the roster, even when Romo was here...lol
 

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Here's a spoiler for you: It's not going to workout.

It's almost impossible to win a Super Bowl after you pay your QB big money unless that guy is out of this world good. I think Mahomes and Wilson are the only two guys for sure I'd put in that category. (Rodgers maybe out of that category now and Lamar Jack needs to do it for one more year)

This isn't Dak's fault. It's just how the system is setup. I don't see the Cowboys winning anytime soon with the money being allocated to the players they're paying.
 

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What is funny within 2 year Dak Contract will be no more than middle of the road. Jimmy G was at one time the highest paid at 27 mill, that did not last long before other QB were making much more. It is the nature of the beast in the NFL. Cowboys have many of their key players under contract already
You would have been spot on six months ago, I'm not certain now. This recent close down of our total economy may reset many industries, the NFL included. I sure hope not, but we're on completely new turf here.
 

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You would have been spot on six months ago, I'm not certain now. This recent close down of our total economy may reset many industries, the NFL included. I sure hope not, but we're on completely new turf here.

True this NFL season in any normal sense is already over. There is no way a regular season will be played this year. Millions are out of jobs and the social distancing will be going on for 1+ years, which effectively kills the NFL season for this year and maybe next year. It's not even about covid as much as it's about the shutdown orders and the massive cost to everything.
 
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