Twitter: Fish: Dak wants $45m in 5th year

[CouchCoach]

This is being milked for the media coverage, the deal will get done and Booger will have something stupid to say like he did about Romo, "he'll play better because he's getting paid better".

Haven't you noticed the timeline on these releases? It gets too quiet, no one is talking about Booger, something like this shows up. All of these things are plants, they're not scoops. Same guy that was feeding Werder has been feeding Fisher. Now, the sports guys, that have no sports, have something to talk about. Jeez, this is going to be a 10 part episodic release on Netflix. The Dak Chronicles.

 

[John813]

It will be a holiday on CowboysZone the day Jones and Prescott agree on a new contract.

A holiday of horror.

Will an alarm go off on all the moderators phones to man the battle stations when the deal is signed?

 

[MarcusRock]

That's perfectly fine. That 5th year would be all non-guaranteed funny money. He'll be either extended or cut when his guarantees run out well before that 5th year anyway.

Right. Aren't most contracts back-loaded this way? The $45M number is for the knee-jerk, non-readers to be "outraged" about. There's nothing newsworthy about this at all except to reveal who the media's puppets are. Count 'em up in this thread. Lol.

 

[CouchCoach]

Balderdash. Tank got top pay. Zack got top pay. Zeke got top pay. Cooper got top pay. Jaylon and collins were surprise signings and both received nice salaries. Stephen and jerry both spoke flatteringly of all those players. Almost every top player in the nfl has their contracts exposed until final deals are in place. That's business in today's NFL. It's absurd to think otherwise.

Funny, all of those players play for the same team, my point exactly.

Brees, Rodgers, Rothliesberger, Wilson all got new deals but we weren't in on any details prior to the deals being done. In fact, a lot of these new deals are done and we're not aware they were even negotiating until it's announced.

You are using these two clowns as the example of today's NFL? What other teams do it this way? In any sport?

 

[CouchCoach]

Will an alarm go off on all the moderators phones to man the battle stations when the deal is signed?

LMAO, all vacations are cancelled and they'll be deputizing temp mods until the furor is over.

 

[Kingofholland]

Call Dak's bluff and give him a deadline. If he doesn't agree let him play the season under the tag. If he holds out give Dalton the keys and let's see how the team performs. Willing to take the risk.

 

[Jake]

I want a 4 year contract. You want a 5 year contract. Let's see, what to do? I know!

I'll ask for something in year 5 that I don't think you'll want to pay, but if you're dumb enough to do it I'll give you a 5th year.

 

[DanA]

That 45m kills any idea of a future franchise tag.

 

[CyberB0b]

So what do you want, Dak? 20, 25 million?

Both

 

[Denim Chicken]

Call Dak's bluff and give him a deadline. If he doesn't agree let him play the season under the tag. If he holds out give Dalton the keys and let's see how the team performs. Willing to take the risk.

there is a deadline. July 15th, I believe.

 

[Silly]

Who else would pay these prices?

Hmmmm...... make dak play another one year prove it deal on the tag for big mike and revisit the contract next season. That would be better than a 5 year deal. Look at the odds that Dak is injured, has another average season, has an awesome season, or wins a super bowl.

 

[OmerV]

I want a 4 year contract. You want a 5 year contract. Let's see, what to do? I know!

I'll ask for something in year 5 that I don't think you'll want to pay, but if you're dumb enough to do it I'll give you a 5th year.

This is pretty much the case, assuming the report is accurate, although by year 5 QBs may be making $50-60 million a year, so there is a chance it might be a good deal. But I get why the Cowboys wouldn't want to do the deal anyway.

 

[HungryLion]

I want a 4 year contract. You want a 5 year contract. Let's see, what to do? I know!

I'll ask for something in year 5 that I don't think you'll want to pay, but if you're dumb enough to do it I'll give you a 5th year.

Never mind the fact that the 5th year is going to be no guaranteed cash anyway, and the team would be able to just cut him prior to that season anyway if they don’t want to pay it.


Lol but nah that makes too much sense, so people should just freak out about it instead.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

Make it an option year and get him signed. I like a 4 year deal better anyway.

That makes all the sense in the world, really. If Dak is performing as well as everyone hopes the Cowboys will be happy to pay it, if not then everybody moves on.

 

[Idgit]

Makes sense. If you’re guessing the market and want the extra year, the team should pay the premium.

He’s getting signed, regardless. The rest of this doesn’t matter.

 

[Sydla]

They signed contracts that put them under team control for 4 extra years in exchange for a certain amount of money above and beyond what they were already contracted to receive. Yes, it's different from the team's cap-management standpoint. No, it's not different for the player: Dak wants a contract that puts him under team control for 4 extra years in exchange for a certain amount of money beyond what he is already contracted to receive (which in Dak's case is $0).

Again disingenuous. What Wentz and Goff are under is 6 years of control. Wilson, when he signed, was under control then for 5 years.

Dak wants only 4 years control. He's asking for something his peers didn't get.

 

[zerofill]

Pretty sure... we should just give the entire cap to Dak... let everyone else go...
Then field a team of 1... All we need is Dak anyway. Dude even makes
Jesus envious...

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Please dont give this guy this kinda contract smdh I dont see how anyone can justify giving this guy this kinda money he is a fringe top 10 guy lets use his money to address other positions and draft a guy next year.

If it hasn't been asked yet...do you have a guy next year?

 

[Sydla]

Never mind the fact that the 5th year is going to be no guaranteed cash anyway, and the team would be able to just cut him prior to that season anyway if they don’t want to pay it.


Lol but nah that makes too much sense, so people should just freak out about it instead.

You aren't grasping the concepts here behind this.

Dak is asking for a ridiculous 5th year salary because he knows it puts Dallas in a tough spot. If they give him that 5th year with a ridiculous base salary (or base + roster bonus), yes, they could cut him if he stunk. But if he doesn't stink, he has Dallas over a barrel in that 5th year. He has no incentive to negotiate an extension at that point............ because he knows he'd be banking a ridiculous $45MM in Year 5 and then looking at another big pay day in Year 6 when he signs a long term deal.

They are asking for that ridiculous 5th year for one reason only........... to pressure Dallas into agreeing to just a 4 year extension. If Dallas caves on that 5th year at $45MM or more, it's an even bigger win for Dak.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

In 2024? I doubt $45M will look like a huge number then. So count me as one on this board who disagrees with you.

But demanding the team contractually lock him in for that....without any protection...might be the deal breaker.

Edit: If you have 5 years of playoff runs and exciting season play...then yeah...might be something to consider. But if you have 3 years of team mediocrity....why not tag or sign team friendly deal. Take the incentives if you feel you are so good or the old coach held you back.

The tag seems the best deal at this point. Could we pay a lot more later? Sure of course! But we'd have more data to go on too. If Dak doesn't want to play tag then he's not negotiating in good faith/. I don;t blame him for that but he should accept the same risk and consequences the team does.