Will Dak lead this team to a superbowl victory this season?

Rockport

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This season? Completely new coaching staff putting in a brand new scheme & a very whacked out off season might be more of an obstacle than Dak's ability can overcome.
A new coaching staff is getting better. There will be a new defense but the offense is going to be mostly the same. Whacked out off season? The team has had one of the best off seasons in recent memory. Cheer up Debbie.
 

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I suppose they could have one of those "New York Giants" fluke postseasons.

It's never been the players or even the coaches that has kept the Cowboys out of the Super Bowl. The environment, culture and management decisions have always been the culprit and that won't change until.....well,,,,,you know.

If Jerry Jones could hire a HC and then just sit on the sidelines then they would have a chance. If anyone thinks that is ever going to happen hasn't been paying attention the past 25 years.
 

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A new coaching staff is getting better. There will be a new defense but the offense is going to be mostly the same. Whacked out off season? The team has had one of the best off seasons in recent memory. Cheer up Debbie.
Huh? How did you get that take?

Hmm... maybe my bad for considering training camp as a part of the off season?
 

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There it is.
If this Cowboys team goes to a Super Bowl, Dak will just be "along for the ride".
He hasn't shown the ability or the instincts of leadership that a marquee quarterback has.
He can make some plays, but he's just not the guy that will lead.
It will have to be someone else that leads, whether that be defense, coaching, or just someone who steps forward that they don't expect.
Dak's M.O. is to change with his surroundings, not to be the reason for change.
One of the dumbest takes ever posted here. Dak doesn’t have leadership? :lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:
 

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He has the weapons.

But does he have the ability?
Will our coaching staff know what to do with the team?

Will our special teams go from being the worst in the league to at least average?

Will our defense improve and be at least “good”?

Your question implies a false choice.

Football is a team sport. One player doesn’t win or lose on their own. I don’t think Troybwould have won a Super Bowl with last years team and coaching. Do you?

Maybe that would be a good follow up question
 

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Garrett is gone. Its a new beginning.
Jerry Jones is not gone.

New beginning, same old ending.

If Jerry Jones could hire a HC and then sit on the sidelines then it could happen. Anyone who thinks it will has not been paying attention the past 25 years.
 

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If he’s the highest paid player in the league he takes the brunt of the responsibility. That’s just the way it is.

Otherwise why pay him?
Russell Wilson was the highest paid player in the league.

Seahawks didn’t even make it to the NFC Chamlionship game.

They should cut him.

Here are the top five paid last year

Wilson - failed - cut him
Roethlisberger - failed - cut him
Brees - failed - cut him
Brady - failed - cut him
Foles - failed - cut him
 

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One of the dumbest takes ever posted here. Dak doesn’t have leadership? :lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:
No; he doesn't.
He plays well when the team is doing well, but has yet to be the reason that the Cowboys became a better team when they were struggling.
Watching him throw the ball into the ground on 4th down pretty much summed up his leadership skills.
 

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From what I saw from last year, above average defenses tend to cause him to re boot to his factory settings. That means poor footwork, vision, mechanics and accuracy.
Not a winning recipe. So no to your question.
A very good argument could be made that play calling was a major factor in how opponents schemed against our offense.

Dak can’t control the fact that this was Garrett’s offense.
 
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Not sure what team excelled in all 3 phases but for last year San Francisco had the best defense and the Chiefs had the best QB.

Not sure who had best overall special teams

Maybe if a team can just be strong to dominant enough in one of the 3, then that can somewhat mask the deficiencies in the other 2 areas just enough to win the close ones.

Dallas has not shown a consistent ability to be strong to dominant in any of the 3 phases against better teams. Particularly on offense at QB.
New Orleans was the top special teams unit in 2019
 
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This thread could be changed to any the following:
  1. Is Mike McCarthy going to lead us to the super bowl?
  2. Is our defense good enough to win a super bowl?
  3. Is our special teams going to improve this year?
  4. Are we going to make effective real-time adjustments this season?
  5. Are we going to be top 10 in takeaways instead of bottom 5 this season?
:)
 

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I actually think Dak can win a SB this year and probably next year and the year after that. He don't need any expensive other teammates and he is going to get all his money because all other teammates are just that...they can fend for themselves.

I really think that Dak can take any team in the league to a SB, he is just that damn good. Don't believe me, ask around. Sometimes when I watch him play and struggle I think to myself, why the heck can't his other teammates help the poor (well soon to be rich) guy out! He is such a great leader, why won't anyone listen to him and let him lead! smh.

Think about it...Dak can read a defense like a children's book, he can fire passes very accurately but his receivers always drop the ball trying to turn around or bend down for the catch (stupid receivers). Dak does not really need Zeke because if he really wanted to he could run the ball to open spaces while the opponent defense is laughing, I mean not looking...TD!

As far as the Cowboy defense is concerned, if they they cannot stop the other team, no problem, Dak will match TD for TD until the other team just gives up. Pay the boy, it's the Cowboys only hope for long term success. If the FO were to let Dak go, it will take this team years to recover.
 

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No; he doesn't.
He plays well when the team is doing well, but has yet to be the reason that the Cowboys became a better team when they were struggling.
Watching him throw the ball into the ground on 4th down pretty much summed up his leadership skills.
:facepalm:
 

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A very good argument could be made that play calling was a major factor in how opponents schemes against our offense.

Dak can’t control the fact that this was Garrett’s offense.

I am unsure of where both the responsibility and accountability lines are drawn regarding
how much of the offense was Moore's and how much was still Garrett's as I was not privy to team meetings.

I also like referencing Risen's remark that stated there were plenty of coaching staff years prior to Garrett where nothing was won either.

I don't absolve Garrett of all blame but this offseason's narrative sure seems to have moved the goalposts in such a way as to rationalize a decade's worth of futility towards just another scapegoat to explain the overall futility.
It's a blame game hot potato that never ends.
Defensively, Ryan to Kiffin to Marinelli/Richard to now Nolan. Offensively, Garrett to Callahan to Linehan to Moore to now McCarthy/Moore.

Not an all star list of coaches, but somewhere player accountability has to play a role in this lack of success. Usually in the NFL nowadays, the QB's role is the most influential factor in determining team success.
Team game yes, but this position touches every single offensive snap, so in turn should hold a high standard of responsibility for all outcomes regardless of plays called or defenses faced.
 
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I am unsure of where both the responsibility and accountability lines are drawn regarding
how much of the offense was Moore's and how much was still Garrett's as I was not privy to team meetings.

I also like referencing Risen's remark that stated there were plenty of coaching staff years prior to Garrett where nothing was won either.

I don't absolve Garrett of all blame but this offseason's narrative sure seems to have moved the goalposts in such a way as to rationalize a decade's worth of futility towards just another scapegoat to explain the overall futility.
It's a blame game hot potato that never ends.
Defensively, Ryan to Kiffin to Marinelli/Richard to now Nolan. Offensively, Garrett to Callahan to Linehan to Moore to now McCarthy/Moore.

Not an all star list of coaches, but somewhere player accountability has to play a role in this lack of success. Usually in the NFL nowadays, the QB's role is the most influential factor in determining team success.
Team game yes, but this position touches every single offensive snap, so in turn should hold a high standard of responsibility for all outcomes regardless of plays called or defenses faced.
Would you not agree that the blame hot potato has now firmly landed in Dak’s lap?

Garrett? Gone
McCarthy? Incoming Hero
Dak? Greedy, no talent scrub.

The last 25 years of futility is all on him now.

Not Parcells, Campo, Phillips or Garrett

Not Quincy, Chutch, Vinny, Bledsoe, Kitna or Romo

It’s all on Dak.
 

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Would you not agree that the blame hot potato has now firmly landed in Dak’s lap?

Garrett? Gone
McCarthy? Incoming Hero
Dak? Greedy, no talent scrub.

The last 25 years of futility is all on him now.

Not Parcells, Campo, Phillips or Garrett

Not Quincy, Chutch, Vinny, Bledsoe, Kitna or Romo

It’s all on Dak.

I do not know the front office's thinking but I am guessing they may be feeling that in order to pay this type of contract it should be commensurate with on field success or return on investment so to speak.

Maybe, or as your earlier highest paid contract QB that should have been cut list post should not have left out the detail that your list was of SB winning QBs. All of them had led their team to a trophy and "then" got paid.

So is the organization to pay the same for less results compared to your previous post's list of SB winning QBs or will it be the so called market value type contract based on supposed potential that Goff and Wentz got as 2 non SB winning QBs.

The reasoning behind the pending contract is the latter in Daks case and I can't begin to understand as to why the Jones continue the delay in signing him if that is their thought process.

Guess that's why they're the billionaire owner and decision makers. Risk/Reward is currently being assessed and I'm sure there will be an outcome one way or another soon.
 
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