Excellent quote from Mahomes Dak should read it

[DandyDon52]

"The biggest thing they preached to me is kind of the same thing I already thought. It was good to just hear them. You want to have great players around you. You don't want to be a guy that takes up all the money and then all of a sudden you're having to sign different guys that will take cheaper deals. We're going to be able to reward players and keep a lot of these guys around that have built the culture even before I was here.''

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...ght-security-flexibility-chiefs-landmark-deal

Well these are some nice words, and the10 year deal is team friendly .
However when he goes from 2 mil a year to 45 mil a year the team is going to be able to keep
a few players. And they will have to go with a bunch of cheaper players.

That is going to be a 43 mil difference in what they have to work with, and is almost 25 % of their whole
salary cap, which is huge for 1 player.
So what he is saying, I have to wonder if he actually believes that lol.

We talked about this in the dak threads, and once you pay a player over the 13% of cap it becomes
a burden.
I cant say what the cap will be in 2022, or how much his cap hit will be that year so dont know what the %
will be.
They can move money around , but that means some low cap hit years, and some high cap hit years.

So Mahomes will be a burden 2 years from now and his pay will eat up a large chunk of the cap.
So no way they can keep all the guys they have now, or get any other guys that would cost very much.
So his statement is pretty much BS.

Basically QB salarys have gotten out of hand, and many of them are making too much money.
Once GB paid rodgers, they never got back to a SB.

 

[Frozen700]

Mahomes got $477 million in guaranteed money - well over $40 million per year - and the Chiefs are able to keep a lot of other guys.

Dak is asking for less and it's a cap killer? Seems like KC is better at managing the cap than Jerry & Son. Hardly surprising.

Has it occurred to anyone that Dak might not want to hitch his wagon long-term to a team that's gone nowhere since he was in pre school?

Dak isn't even worth 30 mil a year.

You are just a Dak fanboy if you really think he's better than a over average.

#DontpayDak

 

[cern]

Very nicely said.

I try always to be nice.

 

[Section446]

Stop insulting Mahomes by saying Dak's name in the same sentence.

 

[America's Cowboy]

"The biggest thing they preached to me is kind of the same thing I already thought. It was good to just hear them. You want to have great players around you. You don't want to be a guy that takes up all the money and then all of a sudden you're having to sign different guys that will take cheaper deals. We're going to be able to reward players and keep a lot of these guys around that have built the culture even before I was here.''

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...ght-security-flexibility-chiefs-landmark-deal

At $45 million per year for the next 10 years? Yeah, nice baloney talk.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Still trying to figure out how mahomes at 45 million is team friendly but Dak at 37 isn’t.

It's about Dak so some have a double standard with him.

 

[Typhus]

I try always to be nice.

So just stop it already!

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

So basically KC brainwashed him into thinking he needs to take less in order to surround him with talent? Awesome. Dak...you aren't Mahomes. Go get the bag.

 

[kskboys]

So basically KC brainwashed him into thinking he needs to take less in order to surround him with talent? Awesome. Dak...you aren't Mahomes. Go get the bag.

You can't see how players' contracts affect team talent? No joke? That's strange.

 

[ItzKelz]

Dak would have had a cap friendly deal if we signed him before last season

 

[DC Cowboy]

You ever think, Jerry and Stephen may not want to hitch their wagon to an average QB..... I like DAK but for heavens sake he has an arsenal of good players around him....Time to WIN something.....Making the playoffs is not good enough....Andy Dalton can make the playoffs with the players on this team at a much lower cost point

you ever think Patrick M is surrounded by a better coach also?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

You can't see how players' contracts affect team talent? No joke? That's strange.

I'm of the belief that if you draft well it doesn't matter how much you pay your quarterback.

 

[Creeper]

What makes Mahomes contract team friendly is the length of the deal - as long as he doesn't get hurt. 5 or 6 years from now, Mahomes contract will look like a bargain. And this is what Dak is trying to avoid. Dak wants a short deal so he can become a free agent and work the market again, when QB deals are much more expensive. Dak has a right to go for whatever he can get, so does Mahomes. Mahomes chose ot be a KC Chief for his career. Dak is choosing to sell his services to the highest bidder at some point.

 

[Sevenup3000]

"The biggest thing they preached to me is kind of the same thing I already thought. It was good to just hear them. You want to have great players around you. You don't want to be a guy that takes up all the money and then all of a sudden you're having to sign different guys that will take cheaper deals. We're going to be able to reward players and keep a lot of these guys around that have built the culture even before I was here.''

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...ght-security-flexibility-chiefs-landmark-deal

These are not comparable situations. I remember in the 2016 game vs. the Lions on MNF, it was revealed that Stafford would make more in one-half of that game than Dak would make playing 16 games that season. That Stafford would make more in like 4 games than Dak would make over the course of his entire 4-year contract.

When you were the 77th highest paid player at your position (with expectations to produce like a top 10 QB -- like Stafford), and wait you patiently as almost everyone around you has reset the market at their position...while already being compensated fairly well at their position...

You would not take ONE PENNY less than fair market value. Period. Dot. End. of. Discussion.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Stop insulting Mahomes by saying Dak's name in the same sentence.

Says the guy who uses hate in his posts 24/7. lol.

 

[Cowboysheelsreds053]

Biggest? Yes. But not fully guaranteed. Leaves chiefs lots of wiggle room to sign others. He coats little the first two years.

This, only baseball and basketball are the contracts FULLY guaranteed.

 

[Adreme]

The guy who basically just signed for a half billion dollars and basically knows he is going to see every cent (his guarantees kick in for the next year the 3rd day of the current year so basically cutting him at any point is 40 million in dead money at least), should probably not be lecturing about team-friendly deals. It sounds great and they kept the cap number manageable, but he kind of just signed the largest contract in sporting history.

 

[gimmesix]

The guy who basically just signed for a half billion dollars and basically knows he is going to see every cent (his guarantees kick in for the next year the 3rd day of the current year so basically cutting him at any point is 40 million in dead money at least), should probably not be lecturing about team-friendly deals. It sounds great and they kept the cap number manageable, but he kind of just signed the largest contract in sporting history.

The more I look at it, the more I think the Chiefs are planning on at least having Mahomes through 2027. The way the deal is structured is definitely in his favor before then because of how the roster bonuses are guaranteed. The greatest benefit to the Chiefs is the first three years, where his pay is below market value. If they cut him by the third league day of 2027, they save $10.5 million in cap space and don't owe him anything for the rest of the contract because no other guarantees kicked in. The contract isn't really favorable for the Chiefs from 2023 up unless the salary cap goes up.

The half-billion is not a big deal, but those guarantees that kick in one to two years before they are paid are troublesome and definitely are not team-friendly ... unless $41 to $42 million per year for a starting QB proves to be below market value by 2023.

 

[Idgit]

Good to see my dude! Was wondering if you were well.

Glad to see you post. Just saying...

Not a lot to post about these days.

 

[Adreme]

The more I look at it, the more I think the Chiefs are planning on at least having Mahomes through 2027. The way the deal is structured is definitely in his favor before then because of how the roster bonuses are guaranteed. The greatest benefit to the Chiefs is the first three years, where his pay is below market value. If they cut him by the third league day of 2027, they save $10.5 million in cap space and don't owe him anything for the rest of the contract because no other guarantees kicked in. The contract isn't really favorable for the Chiefs from 2023 up unless the salary cap goes up.

The half-billion is not a big deal, but those guarantees that kick in one to two years before they are paid are troublesome and definitely are not team-friendly ... unless $41 to $42 million per year for a starting QB proves to be below market value by 2023.

The year they are going to have to extend him is very obvious. Basically I believe it is 2025 or 2026 when the cap hit jumps to 59 million from 40 million that basically screams "Time for another extension with more money" up front. I remember the Flacco contract when the cap hits were 6 million, 14 million, 14 million, and then 29 million and I think they extended before the 29. This is basically that situation. Everything about this deal is good for Mahomes. He will be the highest paid the moment his rookie deal ends and probably will be until it is time to extend him again halfway through the deal (or maybe he will fall to top 5 thus giving him a new negotiating position).