Excellent quote from Mahomes Dak should read it

[Adreme]

that's not exactly true. look at this deadcap figures after 2023. if they cut him before the 3rd day of the new league year starting in 2025, there is zero dead cap.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/patrick-mahomes-21751/

spottrac is making the same mistake with Mahomes that they are making with Tannehill in that while it is true that he has 5 million in dead money the 3rd year of the contract that would not be the dead money if he cut before his 3rd season because his salary for the 3rd season becomes guaranteed the 3rd day of the league year before his 2nd season. Mahomes has exactly the same structure as that but instead of just doing it once, it happens every single year of the contract after the 3rd year where even if you cut him the day after the season ends you still owe him next seasons salary.

 

[landryscorner]

Well the bar has been set for the next decade...and DAKS nowhere near it.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Mahomes simply realized that there is nothing he can buy for 600m that 500m can't buy him, so he took less, he also knows he will make a couple hundred million in endorsements, so he took a team friendly deal. Very smart man, he will be surrounded by good players his entire career now and even his teammates will like him even more for leaving them a bigger piece of the pie

He also realizes that winning is a formula that pays dividends for the rest of his life. Joe Montana is still doing commercials.

 

[CWR]

Its tough to compare. Mahomes is getting paid a lot, BUT his contract is so long it will likely be a value in the end. As well as it gives the team a ton of flexibility to move money, especially with his guaranteed money being paid off well before maturity. Additionally Mahomes is hands down the best qb in the league.

While I really like Dak and his potential he isn't yet at the point he could carry this team like Mahomes can do with KC. I personally would give Dak his four years and be done. If he continues to improve we will be happy to resign him. Worst case scenario for Dak this season is him missing time and Dalton coming in without the offense skipping a beat.

 

[DoctorChicken]

Mahomes just got the fattest contract in sports history

To emphasize - A HALF A BILLION DOLLARS

But he did it because he’s so humble, unlike that greedy Dak. Dak would have turned down 10 years and a half billion!!!

That was sarcasm.

 

[Proof]

Mahomes just got the fattest contract in sports history

To emphasize - A HALF A BILLION DOLLARS

But he did it because he’s so humble, unlike that greedy Dak. Dak would have turned down 10 years and a half billion!!!

That was sarcasm.

he also comes from money, is a first round pick and has been the franchises priority since day one

 

[charron]

Mahomes got $477 million in guaranteed money - well over $40 million per year - and the Chiefs are able to keep a lot of other guys.

Dak is asking for less and it's a cap killer? Seems like KC is better at managing the cap than Jerry & Son. Hardly surprising.

Has it occurred to anyone that Dak might not want to hitch his wagon long-term to a team that's gone nowhere since he was in pre school?

Except mahomes cap hit won't hit 40+ for a few years. With the 1st 3 years cap hits being 5, 25, 31 million each. Also by the time mahomes cap hits the 40+ mark he will be making below market dollars on those cap hits. So his enormous deal is extremely team friendly. Dak's deal is different in part because its not an extension and he wants to keep it short so he can cash in again shortly.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

was this honorable quote made AFTER he signed the largest contract, total and guaranteed $$, in professional sports history?

 

[CowboysRule]

Wait.. so we are being held back because our QB was only able to throw for 4,900 yards, 30 Td's and only 11 ints with a QB rating of 99.7?

It's not like we are a super power only being held back by a QB who put up the productivity numbers listed above either.

Lose the agenda and be realistic here. Dak isnt Mahommes. No one is..... But if you can't win with a QB throwing for 5k yards, 30 tds and a rating of 99.7 then the problem is clearly bigger than any position.

Dak's stats against the Giants, Commanders, Dolphins - 16 TD's, 3 INT's, roughly 1500 yards. That's great if we only played 5 games a season and only against those teams.

Dak's stats in the other 11 games he played - 14 TD's, 8 INT's, and the rest of his yards. It looks even worse when you factor in that 6 of those TD's came against the Vikings and Lions. He passed for approximately 0 TD's against the Eagles, Patriots, Jets, and Saints.

It's not just the overall stats you need to look at. Dak beat up on crappy teams (including a 4TD performance in a meaningless games against the Commanders), inflated his numbers, and now wants to act like he deserves a huge contract when the fact is, he came up short almost everytime he played a team that was even remotely decent.

 

[gimmesix]

We are assuming everything stays the same and KC is a contender every year. The times change and so does the pay, these deals are in a constant state of examination and possibility of change.

I'm not assuming that. Mahomes' deal is virtually impossible to touch before 2025, and even then and in 2026, it would not benefit the Chiefs much to cut him. Maybe they could get him to renegotiate a better deal for them, but he holds all the cards because of the guarantee mechanisms.

 

[conner01]

Biggest? Yes. But not fully guaranteed. Leaves chiefs lots of wiggle room to sign others. He coats little the first two years.

Can you name a deal with more guaranteed money in it

 

[conner01]

Mmm... this is true. Although he's a young kid at the most important position in all of Football, just won a Superbowl and knows he's the best and he's right.
He deserves the biggest contract. I can't imagine who else does.

He certainly deserves it but he certainly didn’t take less than he was worth

 

[Corso]

He certainly deserves it but he certainly didn’t take less than he was worth

No argument from me on that one boss!

 

[conner01]

No argument from me on that one boss!

I’m a cowboy fan but I watch other teams
There is no player not wearing a star I enjoy watching as much as this kid
He’s really a fun player to watch play the game

 

[HanD]

spottrac is making the same mistake with Mahomes that they are making with Tannehill in that while it is true that he has 5 million in dead money the 3rd year of the contract that would not be the dead money if he cut before his 3rd season because his salary for the 3rd season becomes guaranteed the 3rd day of the league year before his 2nd season. Mahomes has exactly the same structure as that but instead of just doing it once, it happens every single year of the contract after the 3rd year where even if you cut him the day after the season ends you still owe him next seasons salary.

you're right. after reading more articles about when the guarantees kick in.

overthecap has the same thing as sporttrac apparently. thanks for the clarificaiton.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl...eatures $141.428,2021 and 2022 roster bonuses.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...ndly-answering-eight-questions-chiefs-qb-deal

 

[Praxit]

..I heard Bezo's is a team player. Amazon guaranteed.

 

[FVSTONE]

Still trying to figure out how mahomes at 45 million is team friendly but Dak at 37 isn’t.

It's called FAKE NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[zerofill]

Why are we comparing Dak's contract to Mahomes? They are not in the same tier of QB. If they were we would be reigning super bowl champs at this point.

Which is true, they are not even in the same galaxy, let alone the same neighborhood lol.

 

[phildadon86]

Dak's stats against the Giants, Commanders, Dolphins - 16 TD's, 3 INT's, roughly 1500 yards. That's great if we only played 5 games a season and only against those teams.

Dak's stats in the other 11 games he played - 14 TD's, 8 INT's, and the rest of his yards. It looks even worse when you factor in that 6 of those TD's came against the Vikings and Lions. He passed for approximately 0 TD's against the Eagles, Patriots, Jets, and Saints.

It's not just the overall stats you need to look at. Dak beat up on crappy teams (including a 4TD performance in a meaningless games against the Commanders), inflated his numbers, and now wants to act like he deserves a huge contract when the fact is, he came up short almost everytime he played a team that was even remotely decent.

So basing that off of last season is fair. But let’s factor in his whole career where he had the highest winning percentage against winning teams in the league. Does that count for nothing? Because In every big road game our offense went into a shell reminiscent of linehan. Coaching plays a factor too. Special teams in New England cost us the game. Not dak. Missed field goals cost us games as well. So let’s pump the brakes on everything is daks fault bologna

 

[kskboys]

he got a 10 year $500M contract...he can be a little flexible. I wonder if he would have been as flexible if it was a 3-4 year contract extension.....that's the freaking largest contract handed out to any athlete...>EVER....

vs. 4 years 140M contract.....

not the same thing

and let me ask you, would anyone here willing to take a pay cut so their company can hire better talent, so the company is more successful? be honest!!!

If my salary is already in the millions, absolutely.

We're not talking the difference between 50 and 60 grand per year here.