Dak playing shrewd Money game

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I think Dak is doing his best to maximize his earning potential.
By taking the Tag route, he is looking at making about $70 Million in the next 2 years.
Therefore, he will be able to sign a long term deal after that for well over $150 million given that he will be still young.
If he were to sign a 4-5 year deal now, he would be able to get about $150 plus. But, he would be well into his 30's at the end.
By going the Tag route, he can get the $70 plus another big contract afterward.
I think he could still make well over the $70 million even being in his early 30's but by going the Tag route, he almost insures that he will maximize his earnings whereas signing a 4-5 deal he cold potentially get injured in a way that prevents him from getting a big contract afterwards.
He seems to be gambling that he won't suffer a major injury on the Tags, but I guess it's a gamble he's willing to take.
 

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He's playing for a home run against a stiff wind. What if the NFL season gets cancelled? The NFL still has no idea what damage player politics have done to the fan bases. So, sure Dak might get that 70 million over the next 2 years, but there is a lot of uncertainty and we haven't even factored injury risk.

If Dak can get a 100 million guarantee now, which the cowboys have apparently offered, he'd be a fool not to take it......
 

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Some people are making 2 big assumptions

1) that if he plays under the tag this year, he will automatically play under it next year. Playing under 2 tags is very rare.
2) that is relative value (compared to other QBs...including this year's rookies after a year experience and last year's after 2) will for sure go UP after this year
 

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I think Dak is doing his best to maximize his earning potential.
By taking the Tag route, he is looking at making about $70 Million in the next 2 years.
Therefore, he will be able to sign a long term deal after that for well over $150 million given that he will be still young.
If he were to sign a 4-5 year deal now, he would be able to get about $150 plus. But, he would be well into his 30's at the end.
By going the Tag route, he can get the $70 plus another big contract afterward.
I think he could still make well over the $70 million even being in his early 30's but by going the Tag route, he almost insures that he will maximize his earnings whereas signing a 4-5 deal he cold potentially get injured in a way that prevents him from getting a big contract afterwards.
He seems to be gambling that he won't suffer a major injury on the Tags, but I guess it's a gamble he's willing to take.
It is axiomatic that any star player could maximize his earning potential by playing from year to year on one-year deals.

However, there are downsides to this approach. These include, but are not limited to: (1) serious injury; (2) decline in play; (3) a potentially cancelled season, where players without signing bonus money earn no game checks; (4) a contracting salary cap. Until recently, nos. 3-4 were never serious concerns. But between the virus and unsavory politics, the NFL's ability to put butts in seats and eyes on screens is in serious jeopardy.

If Dak doesn't sign a long-term deal now, time will tell whether that was a wise move.
 

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I think Dak is doing his best to maximize his earning potential.
By taking the Tag route, he is looking at making about $70 Million in the next 2 years.
Therefore, he will be able to sign a long term deal after that for well over $150 million given that he will be still young.
If he were to sign a 4-5 year deal now, he would be able to get about $150 plus. But, he would be well into his 30's at the end.
By going the Tag route, he can get the $70 plus another big contract afterward.
I think he could still make well over the $70 million even being in his early 30's but by going the Tag route, he almost insures that he will maximize his earnings whereas signing a 4-5 deal he cold potentially get injured in a way that prevents him from getting a big contract afterwards.
He seems to be gambling that he won't suffer a major injury on the Tags, but I guess it's a gamble he's willing to take.
You are right, I may not think he is worth what he is asking for but he is negotiating. I am not mad at Dak at all.
I am mad a Jerry for not extending him at the first chance they got. This is what happens when you have the owner be the GM.
A good GM extends him understanding the QB contract market.
If you were in Dak's shoes you would want as much money as possible also. I am sure we have all negotiated in buying a house, car, job offer, business.
The NFL marketplace is no different. The Vikings paid Kirk Cousins a guaranteed contract, Manning, Brady, Montana never got a guaranteed contract buy Cousins did.
The Vikings traded their team for Herschel Walker(thank you Jimmy Johnson) and we got three SB's. Stuff happens
 

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I think Dak is doing his best to maximize his earning potential.
By taking the Tag route, he is looking at making about $70 Million in the next 2 years.
Therefore, he will be able to sign a long term deal after that for well over $150 million given that he will be still young.
If he were to sign a 4-5 year deal now, he would be able to get about $150 plus. But, he would be well into his 30's at the end.
By going the Tag route, he can get the $70 plus another big contract afterward.
I think he could still make well over the $70 million even being in his early 30's but by going the Tag route, he almost insures that he will maximize his earnings whereas signing a 4-5 deal he cold potentially get injured in a way that prevents him from getting a big contract afterwards.
He seems to be gambling that he won't suffer a major injury on the Tags, but I guess it's a gamble he's willing to take.
Dak is 26. He'll be 30 in 4 years. Just sayin'.

I think he's playing w/ fire. This could also go really bad for him.
 

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He is betting very largely on the Dallas Cowboys is what he is doing.

If he plays on both tags and continues to come up small in big spots... and still has that one slash mark for playoff wins after six seasons, who exactly is giving a guy who cant win big games a massive contract?

That's why I keep saying he should simply get all he can NOW, because chances are its downhill from here as far as his value, and/or a team really wanting him.

And what's the flip side? He wins a SB? How much MORE would he really get in that case and is it really worth the risk? Not easy to win a SB.
 

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You are right, I may not think he is worth what he is asking for but he is negotiating. I am not mad at Dak at all.
I am mad a Jerry for not extending him at the first chance they got. This is what happens when you have the owner be the GM.
A good GM extends him understanding the QB contract market.
If you were in Dak's shoes you would want as much money as possible also. I am sure we have all negotiated in buying a house, car, job offer, business.
The NFL marketplace is no different. The Vikings paid Kirk Cousins a guaranteed contract, Manning, Brady, Montana never got a guaranteed contract buy Cousins did.
The Vikings traded their team for Herschel Walker(thank you Jimmy Johnson) and we got three SB's. Stuff happens
THEY TRIED.

Geez, why do people keep posting this? Cowboys made an extremely fair offer last year. Dak turned it down.

What are you proposing, that they cut his hand off and sign w/ it?
 

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He is betting very largely on the Dallas Cowboys is what he is doing.

If he plays on both tags and continues to come up small in big spots... and still has that one slash mark for playoff wins after six seasons, who exactly is giving a guy who cant win big games a massive contract?

That's why I keep saying he should simply get all he can NOW, because chances are its downhill from here as far as his value, and/or a team really wanting him.

And what's the flip side? He wins a SB? How much MORE would he really get in that case and is it really worth the risk? Not easy to win a SB.
Well said.

Dak is passing up the chance to become an extremely rich man to become a slightly more rich man, w/ the downside being a much less rich man. It does not make sense to me.
 

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He is betting very largely on the Dallas Cowboys is what he is doing.

If he plays on both tags and continues to come up small in big spots... and still has that one slash mark for playoff wins after six seasons, who exactly is giving a guy who cant win big games a massive contract?

That's why I keep saying he should simply get all he can NOW, because chances are its downhill from here as far as his value, and/or a team really wanting him.

And what's the flip side? He wins a SB? How much MORE would he really get in that case and is it really worth the risk? Not easy to win a SB.
Furthermore, if he doesnt win here in the next two years, he won't be able to say he didnt have weapons, or blocking.

His play would be expected to drop even further.

This guy is getting bad advice, and is playing with fire.
 

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He is betting very largely on the Dallas Cowboys is what he is doing.

If he plays on both tags and continues to come up small in big spots... and still has that one slash mark for playoff wins after six seasons, who exactly is giving a guy who cant win big games a massive contract?

That's why I keep saying he should simply get all he can NOW, because chances are its downhill from here as far as his value, and/or a team really wanting him.

And what's the flip side? He wins a SB? How much MORE would he really get in that case and is it really worth the risk? Not easy to win a SB.
Dak is betting largely on his agent, and why as a fan of football, the game, I hope it goes very wrong for Dak.
There was a time when the agent was was a mediator between the two parties.
Now Agents like france are aonly about the money, and not about mediation.
 

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Furthermore, if he doesnt win here in the next two years, he won't be able to say he didnt have weapons, or blocking.

His play would be expected to drop even further.

This guy is getting bad advice, and is playing with fire.
Jinx!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Look for for the old proverb...""a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush,".
 

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He's playing for a home run against a stiff wind. What if the NFL season gets cancelled? The NFL still has no idea what damage player politics have done to the fan bases. So, sure Dak might get that 70 million over the next 2 years, but there is a lot of uncertainty and we haven't even factored injury risk.

If Dak can get a 100 million guarantee now, which the cowboys have apparently offered, he'd be a fool not to take it......
WELL SAID. Foolish.
 

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THEY TRIED.

Geez, why do people keep posting this? Cowboys made an extremely fair offer last year. Dak turned it down.

What are you proposing, that they cut his hand off and sign w/ it?

....and it was Dak's fault for a poor 2018.
 

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Dak is betting largely on his agent, and why as a fan of football, the game, I hope it goes very wrong for Dak.
There was a time when the agent was was a mediator between the two parties.
Now Agents like france are aonly about the money, and not about mediation.
Man, I'm fighting that feeling myself.
 

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He's playing for a home run against a stiff wind. What if the NFL season gets cancelled? The NFL still has no idea what damage player politics have done to the fan bases. So, sure Dak might get that 70 million over the next 2 years, but there is a lot of uncertainty and we haven't even factored injury risk.

If Dak can get a 100 million guarantee now, which the cowboys have apparently offered, he'd be a fool not to take it......


Your thread makes absolutely zero sense..

Even if he signs a 500m dollar deal, if there is no season, he doesn't get paid
 
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