Video: Skip Bayless nails it in regards to Dak not getting signed it

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Dak is here for $31.4m for this next season, yet fans are angry at the front office for not giving in to his ridiculous contract demands.

Explain to me, how that is in the best interest of the Dallas Cowboys? As a Cowboy fan, why wouldnt you want an additional year to evaluate Dak under a brand new head coach? If the team underperforms once again, kick him to the curb and move forward with a new QB. If he reaches the NFC Championship game, offer him a fair, but not franchise-crippling, contract.
Maybe why they didn’t try harder earlier. Grab a SB trophy paying your QB 31 a year instead of 35. If he wins pay him 38 a year.
 

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Dak is here for $31.4m for this next season, yet fans are angry at the front office for not giving in to his ridiculous contract demands.

Explain to me, how that is in the best interest of the Dallas Cowboys? As a Cowboy fan, why wouldnt you want an additional year to evaluate Dak under a brand new head coach? If the team underperforms once again, kick him to the curb and move forward with a new QB. If he reaches the NFC Championship game, offer him a fair, but not franchise-crippling, contract.

I think we are on the same side here. I will debate and argue against a Dak deal and have for the past 2 years. But once it is done, it's done. You move on and hope the player can live up to the contract.
 

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He is already throwing his agent under the bus to save face. Saying he would have signed the deal if it got done in time. And how he loves being A Cowboy. Can’t wait to play with his team and go for a SB.
Where are you seeing/hearing/reading that?
 

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Haha regarding the bipolar comment!

I agree Jerry and Stephen will not forgot this. They will be livid. It was a good legitimate offer and Prescott turned them down.
well said. Yup, no way do they forgive this. This will stick in their crawl all year.They will be looking forward to the day contract talks come,just so they can send a message to Dak and his agent. LETS HOPE DAK RETHINKS THIS FAILED STRATGEY,LEARNS FROM IT,FIRES HIS AGENT. If he does, THEN maybe we can get a deal done. He must play lights out this year and make a SB run for them to want to keep him. Thats what it will take,period. ANYTHING short of that won't win them back over.
 

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Where are you seeing/hearing/reading that?
Apparently had a interview yesterday, someone will post the link. He said the last offer he would have signed but the time ran out. 50 million signing bonus and 70 guaranteed in the first 2 years. Not sure how the rest of the contract was laid out. Then he took to tweeting about being proud to be A Cowboy and can’t wait to go after a SB with his team. I think it was slater reported it or had the interview. It’s on one of these threads. I promise. Lol.
 

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I know we don't need another Dak thread but Dak brings up some interesting points


-Dak may not have been demanding Mahommes money but it was pretty darn close

-Jerry has always been reasonable in contract negotiations and has always more or less overpaid. Prescott and the new agent was being unreasonable

-The new contract offered by Dallas would've made him the second highest paid qb with over 80 million guaranteed

-The media is currently bashing the dallas cowboys on this but how come no one is reporting what Dak's demands where. That's a very good point by Bayless

-This isn't a kirk cousins deal because Dallas did offer Dak a fair deal, unlike Washington. Dak just didn't want it

I'm left with two things here

1. Does Dak even want to play here anymore? Valid question

2. Why is Jerry the villain all of a sudden, considering in their history they have always signed the player they wanted or needed?


I like Prescott, but several of his fans have to ask themselves, are you a fan of the Dallas Cowboys or a fan of Dak Prescott because his demands are literally detrimental to the team and its success in the future.

This is all complete nonsense.
If you agree with Skip you know you nee dot re-consider your take.


Dak may not have been demanding Mahommes money but it was pretty darn close
Complete and utter garbage take. Mahomes got over 400M in virtual guarantees with 140 firm GTD and 45M AAV .
Dak asked for 4 years and 35M AAV.

-Jerry has always been reasonable in contract negotiations and has always more or less overpaid. Prescott and the new agent was being unreasonable
Jerry isn;t running contract, that's Stephen. Even senile Skip should know that if hge followed the team for more than ratings.

-The new contract offered by Dallas would've made him the second highest paid qb with over 80 million guaranteed

Completely untrue in both AAV and GTD money.
Dallas offered 33-35M which ranges form 6or 7th best to tied for 2nd most.
Guaranteed to Dak was going to be 110 which would have been 3rd most.

-The media is currently bashing the dallas cowboys on this but how come no one is reporting what Dak's demands where. That's a very good point by Bayless
Skip is again an idiot. We know what Dak wanted. 4 years at 35M AAV.

-This isn't a kirk cousins deal because Dallas did offer Dak a fair deal, unlike Washington. Dak just didn't want it
Dallas offered a fair deal if you ignore the last year. They offered the same basic deal as Wentz and Goff but over a year later.
Dak has won more games than both.


1. Does Dak even want to play here anymore? Valid question
Yes, he does, and very badly. Which is why he considered a late offer that really was no different then the best offer on table accept a slightly larger SB.

2. Why is Jerry the villain all of a sudden, considering in their history they have always signed the player they wanted or needed?

Jerry isn't, Stephen is. Jerry signed guys, Stephen pouts and counts cap dollars for the salary cap championships.
There is a reason handled big contracts for so long with Stephen doing all the smaller ones and general cap mgmt.
Stephen is cheap.
 

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at least for this year we have Dak, no excuses now. Coaching cant be used as the issue. Can we all at least credit THE GM and F.O for making the bold choice of MM and his staff? If Dak cannot win under these conditions, he cant win anywhere. ONE CAVEAT that I hope we have fixed...special teams. How many times over the years,namely, last year, did special teams cause us to lose games? I can think of 3. That was just 2019. The Jets,N.E, and the Saints.I'm sure I am leaving out more. Dak,nor any QB, can't be expected to work off of a long field constantly to drive his team to score. Its very hard and a tough mountain to climb. We need shorter fields for the offense,if that happens, we will be the greatest show on turf personafied. UNSTOPPABLE...if we have a season.
 

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Because he performed better than your typical 4th round pick. But what are you supposed to do? Suck intentionally to match your draft position or try to improve each season? He was offered a fair deal and he’s no where close to being the 2nd best Qb in the league.

Well, you could take the money offered you, rather then refuse contract. The money was out there for Dak. The team started with an offer of 27 and we now know that it could have or would have ended at somewhere in the area of 35/36. As it is, Dak walked away from 33 AAV.

So I do understand your point but I just have a hard time seeing this as the fault of the team. If he didn't want to sign that deal, OK, but I can not say that it's the fault of the team. It's Dak's choice for sure but I guess the point I'm trying to get at is that the teams don't set the rookie wage scale. That was negotiated and it is what it is. There are plenty of players taken in the 4th round that should probably never even make a team but they do. If there is a more fair way of doing it, I'd be all for it but the question is, what would that be? I know I'm not telling anybody anything they don't already know. I guess I'm just saying that I don't see how anybody can see this as the fault of the team or Jerry.
 
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Apparently had a interview yesterday, someone will post the link. He said the last offer he would have signed but the time ran out. 50 million signing bonus and 70 guaranteed in the first 2 years. Not sure how the rest of the contract was laid out. Then he took to tweeting about being proud to be A Cowboy and can’t wait to go after a SB with his team. I think it was slater reported it or had the interview. It’s on one of these threads. I promise. Lol.
Pretty sure,knowing Daks great character, he is secretly crushed inside.He wont let on, but hes a great young man,high character...he knows this will tarnish him and I bet its eating him up inside. I find it hard to believe this is what he wanted. I may be wrong..this could have been the plan. It would be dissapointing.
 

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This is all complete nonsense.
If you agree with Skip you know you nee dot re-consider your take.


Dak may not have been demanding Mahommes money but it was pretty darn close
Complete and utter garbage take. Mahomes got over 400M in virtual guarantees with 140 firm GTD and 45M AAV .
Dak asked for 4 years and 35M AAV.

-Jerry has always been reasonable in contract negotiations and has always more or less overpaid. Prescott and the new agent was being unreasonable
Jerry isn;t running contract, that's Stephen. Even senile Skip should know that if hge followed the team for more than ratings.

-The new contract offered by Dallas would've made him the second highest paid qb with over 80 million guaranteed

Completely untrue in both AAV and GTD money.
Dallas offered 33-35M which ranges form 6or 7th best to tied for 2nd most.
Guaranteed to Dak was going to be 110 which would have been 3rd most.

-The media is currently bashing the dallas cowboys on this but how come no one is reporting what Dak's demands where. That's a very good point by Bayless
Skip is again an idiot. We know what Dak wanted. 4 years at 35M AAV.

-This isn't a kirk cousins deal because Dallas did offer Dak a fair deal, unlike Washington. Dak just didn't want it
Dallas offered a fair deal if you ignore the last year. They offered the same basic deal as Wentz and Goff but over a year later.
Dak has won more games than both.


1. Does Dak even want to play here anymore? Valid question
Yes, he does, and very badly. Which is why he considered a late offer that really was no different then the best offer on table accept a slightly larger SB.

2. Why is Jerry the villain all of a sudden, considering in their history they have always signed the player they wanted or needed?

Jerry isn't, Stephen is. Jerry signed guys, Stephen pouts and counts cap dollars for the salary cap championships.
There is a reason handled big contracts for so long with Stephen doing all the smaller ones and general cap mgmt.
Stephen is cheap.

Main points are guaranteed money was reportedly circa $110 million. Average annual salary circa $35 million. 5 year contract.

Covid outbreak has impacted upon revenue and likely the salary cap for the next few years.

It was a fair offer.
 

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I heard this on the radio this morning. I am not a big fan of Bayless but he made a few good points. I only blame Jerry for not getting Dak signed last year before Wentz, but I don't think it's that big of a deal. A year later we are still not sure what Dak is.

But if the reports are true, the Cowboys offered Dak a very fair deal. If it was close to what Dak wanted, I believe they could have ironed out the difference. Clearly, it was not close. My understanding is the Cowboys offered Dak a deal that would pay him $70 million in the first two years, more than he will make on two franchise tags. That's more than fair. The franchise salary is the average of the top 5 QBs salaries and Dak is not a top 5 QB. I heard again it was about the length of the contract and not the money. I do not buy that for one second. If Dak is holding out over 1 year then screw him.

I like Dak. I think he can be a franchise QB for Dallas for the next 8-10 years. But the Cowboys have to stop overpaying players or they will never win a Super Bowl again. Lawrence, Zeke, Crawford, Cooper and maybe Jaylon Smith are all overpaid considering their play on the field and the Cowboys record. They are all good players but the money has to match the results. At this point, if I was Jerry, I would be frustrated and angry with Dak. Unless he does something spectacular in 2020, I would plan to move on after this year. Next year I would tag him with a non-exclusive rights tag and see if I could trade him for draft picks. I would not give him $40 million based on his play so far. I have no problem letting some other team overpay him. See if he can make $10 million in endorsements playing for the Colts, or Lions.
 

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Most here are fans of Dak Prescott
I am one of them,even still. He is of high character and a team leader. Great dude on and off the field. Thats why this was just a shame. I feel he regrets it too. France will be fired I imagine,long before 2021.
 

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Well, you could take the money offered you, rather then refuse contract. The money was out there for Dak. The team started with an offer of 27 and we now know that it could have or would have ended at somewhere in the area of 35/35. As it is, Dak walked away from 33 AAV.

So I do understand your point but I just have a hard time seeing this as the fault of the team. If he didn't want to sign that deal, OK, but I can not say that it's the fault of the team. It's Dak's choice for sure but I guess the point I'm trying to get at is that the teams don't set the rookie wage scale. That was negotiated and it is what it is. There are plenty of players taken in the 4th round that should probably never even make a team but they do. If there is a more fair way of doing it, I'd be all for it but the question is, what would that be? I know I'm not telling anybody anything they don't already know. I guess I'm just saying that I don't see how anybody can see this as the fault of the team or Jerry.


I agree with you.
 

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From the BR article...

The Dallas Cowboys are reportedly using the media in an attempt to keep fans on the team's side during their ongoing contract negotiations with Dak Prescott.

On Tuesday's episode of The Dan Patrick Show, Dan Patrick said a source told him the Cowboys leaked Prescott's desire for a $40 million annual average salary.

So says Dan Patrick, citing an unnamed source.

Nice try...;):rolleyes:
 

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Main points are guaranteed money was reportedly circa $110 million. Average annual salary circa $35 million. 5 year contract.

Covid outbreak has impacted upon revenue and likely the salary cap for the next few years.

It was a fair offer.
bingo^ CORRECT. Great valid point. Covid DID impact the decision IMO. The revenue,or lack thereof is a real problem for 2020. I can see a scenario where the Chiefs paint themselves into a corner cap wise,just like the Rams did and cant sign guys or keep good players in the years to come. It was super risky by them IMO,with covid and the revenue impacts you mentioned. Jerry and Stevie may be protecting themselves cap wise. Might turn out to be very proactive. Time will tell.
 

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Among other things I'm failing to understand...

Supposedly there was a deal in place last year.

Then the team went 3-0 and Dak lit the world on fire vs. the JV, and the agent pulled out of the deal.

The team proceeded to go 5-8 and miss the playoffs.

What exactly is supposed to happen from there?

The price goes up even more?

You have to do quite a bit to tick off Jerry, and apparently France hit the right button.
 

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Main points are guaranteed money was reportedly circa $110 million. Average annual salary circa $35 million. 5 year contract.

Covid outbreak has impacted upon revenue and likely the salary cap for the next few years.

It was a fair offer.
No, it wasn't and COVID changes zero as we have seen with the deals signed by Pat, Garrett and others since this started.
Dak was ALREADY GTD 31.4M and it WILL cost 37.7M next year regardless of any cap draw down.
It will also cost 54M if they wanted to franchise him a 3rd time.

That deal was fair the day Wentz signed.
Maybe even the whole week.
Goff signed for 4 years 134M
Wentz 4 years 128M
Dak wanted 4 years 140M but a year and a half later AFTER those deals signed and after eating his final 750K season of his rookie deal that Goff/Wentz did not do.
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Anyone thinking Dak's ask was too high is simply wrong to the point of cap ignorance.
Once Dallas was locked in at 31.4M this year and 37.7M next year to keep his rights they had to buy those rights out.
Other teams did that re-signing them extending them early.
Dallas did not so has to pay full freight.

A fair contract for 5 years would have been 5 years 36M AAV 110M GTD .
That would have made him his exact same money in years 1 and 2 and GTD him another 40M for the 3rd year.
It would have allowed Dallas to spread those cap hits out and save 20M this year which could have been rolled over to cover next year's cap hit and/or any draw drawn they may face.
Dallas is stupid with a capital S in how they handled this entire deal.

Talking head idiots lying about it changes nothing.

Next year will be even more expensive and harder to get a deal done because the new base is 37.7M starting point.
 

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no WAY does Jerry pay Dak nearly 40 mil on another tag next year. It would be a tag and trade if anything. OR HE SIMPLY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO BECOME A FA and we get zippo.
 

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Jerry feels undermined and burned, and ONE THING you NEVER EVER do to the Jones family is burn them and lose their trust. WE ALL KNOW THAT. something to ponder.
 

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Apparently had a interview yesterday, someone will post the link. He said the last offer he would have signed but the time ran out. 50 million signing bonus and 70 guaranteed in the first 2 years. Not sure how the rest of the contract was laid out. Then he took to tweeting about being proud to be A Cowboy and can’t wait to go after a SB with his team. I think it was slater reported it or had the interview. It’s on one of these threads. I promise. Lol.

Are you talking about this? Because you keep repeating that "he would have signed" but there is no quote from him on that.

 
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