Video: Skip Bayless nails it in regards to Dak not getting signed it

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I really suspect Todd France is a self-serving putz that has seen fit to drag Dak down to unreasonable demands with him and his agency. I hope Dak fires him before another disaster has a chance to re-occur. Dak needs to start thinking for himself and allow reason to prevail before it's too late. He'll get another chance in 2021. Let's just hope he makes to best of it. Another disaster could adversely affect him and his team for many years to come.
 
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Apparently had a interview yesterday, someone will post the link. He said the last offer he would have signed but the time ran out. 50 million signing bonus and 70 guaranteed in the first 2 years. Not sure how the rest of the contract was laid out. Then he took to tweeting about being proud to be A Cowboy and can’t wait to go after a SB with his team. I think it was slater reported it or had the interview. It’s on one of these threads. I promise. Lol.
I've seen Slater's tweet but I haven't heard anything about Dak telling anybody anything about the deal. Maybe I'm splitting hairs but to me there's a big difference between someone telling Jane Slater Dak wanted to sign at the last minute and Dak talking about it or being quoted somewhere. I'm not being snarky. I want to see/hear/read it and get the details. If Dak is out there saying this stuff it says to me he realizes that he maybe let a good thing slip through his fingers for the sake of being "shrewd" and playing hardball. I won't be convinced it actually happened until someone involved speaks on the record, and if it did happen I'd love to know if it was a four or five-year deal and when the Cowboys offered it.
 

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If Dak was demanding Mahomes money, why was he trying to get the deal done directly at the deadline for a fraction of Mahomes money?

Mahomes money wasn't ever on the table, even in video games.
Sounds like the agent was more of the issue here
 

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Jerry feels undermined and burned, and ONE THING you NEVER EVER do to the Jones family is burn them and lose their trust. WE ALL KNOW THAT. something to ponder.

Dude, you are like the board's very own tabloid reporter. You know that Dak is "crushed," France is getting fired, and that Jerry feels undermined and no longer trusts Dak
 

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Sounds like the agent was more of the issue here

That was my reaction also. The terms weren't that far apart, the money and years were not so far apart that a deal couldn't get done. If Dak was jumping in to make it happen, it sounds like the issue was Todd France.

If you see Dak change agents after this or a deal gets done quickly before the next Tag deadline you have to think that confirms it.

When is the soonest Dak could resign if both sides wanted to?
 

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If Dak was interested in signing for reasonable money, why was the deal being discussed at the last minute, assuming it ever really was? I don't buy any of it. I don't believe Dak and his representation was negotiating in good faith, to the end. I don't believe they were asking for Mahomes money, not because they wouldn't ask for 45 mil AAV but because they would never ever consider signing even a 5 year deal, much less 10.

JMO

I thought it was always going to get done on the last day and posted it repeatedly. Dallas believes that "Deadlines make deals" and the last big one of these was Dez Bryant, who signed literally in the last couple of hours.
 

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I know we don't need another Dak thread but Dak brings up some interesting points


-Dak may not have been demanding Mahommes money but it was pretty darn close

-Jerry has always been reasonable in contract negotiations and has always more or less overpaid. Prescott and the new agent was being unreasonable

-The new contract offered by Dallas would've made him the second highest paid qb with over 80 million guaranteed

-The media is currently bashing the dallas cowboys on this but how come no one is reporting what Dak's demands where. That's a very good point by Bayless

-This isn't a kirk cousins deal because Dallas did offer Dak a fair deal, unlike Washington. Dak just didn't want it

I'm left with two things here

1. Does Dak even want to play here anymore? Valid question

2. Why is Jerry the villain all of a sudden, considering in their history they have always signed the player they wanted or needed?


I like Prescott, but several of his fans have to ask themselves, are you a fan of the Dallas Cowboys or a fan of Dak Prescott because his demands are literally detrimental to the team and its success in the future.


Garbage. He didn't nail anything. insinuating that Dak doesn't want to play here anymore is just troll logic.

Dak wanted 4 years, Cowboys wanted 5. Simple as that.

Most likely scenario is Dak simply got a bad agent and this thing just festered.

Only thing that has credence is that Dak definitely deserves half the criticism.
 

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Skip Bayless also said Troy Aikman was gay, Tom Landry was overrated, Johnny Manziel would one day be bigger than LeBron in Cleveland, Paxton Lynch was “cant miss”....this could go on and on.

I wouldn’t believe Skip Bayless if he told me the sky was blue.
Well sometimes the sky isn’t blue. Sometimes it’s grey, red, and black, lol.
 

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He is already throwing his agent under the bus to save face. Saying he would have signed the deal if it got done in time. And how he loves being A Cowboy. Can’t wait to play with his team and go for a SB. We will find out more soon. Don’t be shocked if he fires france and I hope he does. Best thing he can do is get away from him.
I agree, if he fires France then he could win back some support of the fans who are disappointed on how this was handled, even going back to last year when he turned down that offer. This all could have been water under the bridge a year ago.
 

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I thought it was always going to get done on the last day and posted it repeatedly. Dallas believes that "Deadlines make deals" and the last big one of these was Dez Bryant, who signed literally in the last couple of hours.

I never did because I saw no way the Cowboys could make the deal Dak wanted happen in 4 years without sacrificing the cap. I knew that once Dak hired CAA they would not do a long term deal and so the two could not meet in the middle. Dak has to take control of this thing if he wants to stay in Dallas. If he doesn't, then OK but we, as a fan base, we need to understand what it means. If Dak wants to stay in Dallas, he needs to take control of this thing. If he elects to keep France, then that pretty much says it all, as I see it.
 

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He's been grossly underpaid by any measure for the past 4 seasons. There is no debate about that much.
Well he can blame that on his erratic college play and his DUI. He actually should feel blessed he is even the starter here now, he would still be on the bench if Romo and Moore didn't have injuries around the same time frame.
 

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I agree, if he fires France then he could win back some support of the fans who are disappointed on how this was handled, even going back to last year when he turned down that offer. This all could have been water under the bridge a year ago.

Sorry, but who in Hades cares what fans think? The same fans that were lauding Dak for "waiting his turn" like Zeke didn't, hated Dak's guts when he had the audacity to do so and not want to get raked over the coals in the process. Zeke is the one who got paid. So players would be dumb to listen to idiotic fans who will never be "comfortable" with how one handles their business due to the money involved.
 

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No doubt this is a black eye for France. Hopefully Dak fires him.
 

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I never did because I saw no way the Cowboys could make the deal Dak wanted happen in 4 years without sacrificing the cap. I knew that once Dak hired CAA they would not do a long term deal and so the two could not meet in the middle. Dak has to take control of this thing if he wants to stay in Dallas. If he doesn't, then OK but we, as a fan base, we need to understand what it means. If Dak wants to stay in Dallas, he needs to take control of this thing. If he elects to keep France, then that pretty much says it all, as I see it.

I get that, but I think Dak signing the Tag means he wants to stay in Dallas. I think this was something where both sides wanted the deal but France was a little to obstinate. I think it will end up like DLaw where he plays on the cap and then signs long term next year well before the deadline.
 

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Well, you could take the money offered you, rather then refuse contract. The money was out there for Dak. The team started with an offer of 27 and we now know that it could have or would have ended at somewhere in the area of 35/36. As it is, Dak walked away from 33 AAV.

So I do understand your point but I just have a hard time seeing this as the fault of the team. If he didn't want to sign that deal, OK, but I can not say that it's the fault of the team. It's Dak's choice for sure but I guess the point I'm trying to get at is that the teams don't set the rookie wage scale. That was negotiated and it is what it is. There are plenty of players taken in the 4th round that should probably never even make a team but they do. If there is a more fair way of doing it, I'd be all for it but the question is, what would that be? I know I'm not telling anybody anything they don't already know. I guess I'm just saying that I don't see how anybody can see this as the fault of the team or Jerry.
I could not agree more, ABQ.

Dak played really good football for the Cowboys and he's being rewarded with $31.4m, but I don't understand why the team somehow owes him something because he was drafted in the fourth round. Teams don't wail about the money owed to them by first-round draftees who bust.
 

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I get that, but I think Dak signing the Tag means he wants to stay in Dallas. I think this was something where both sides wanted the deal but France was a little to obstinate. I think it will end up like DLaw where he plays on the cap and then signs long term next year well before the deadline.
I hope you're right but turning down the deals that he reportedly has, deals on par with and bigger than deals signed by QBs who have been to and won Super Bowls, says to me a gaudy contract is more important to Dak than a few fewer million and staying in Dallas.
 

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I know we don't need another Dak thread but Dak brings up some interesting points


-Dak may not have been demanding Mahommes money but it was pretty darn close

-Jerry has always been reasonable in contract negotiations and has always more or less overpaid. Prescott and the new agent was being unreasonable

-The new contract offered by Dallas would've made him the second highest paid qb with over 80 million guaranteed

-The media is currently bashing the dallas cowboys on this but how come no one is reporting what Dak's demands where. That's a very good point by Bayless

-This isn't a kirk cousins deal because Dallas did offer Dak a fair deal, unlike Washington. Dak just didn't want it

I'm left with two things here

1. Does Dak even want to play here anymore? Valid question

2. Why is Jerry the villain all of a sudden, considering in their history they have always signed the player they wanted or needed?


I like Prescott, but several of his fans have to ask themselves, are you a fan of the Dallas Cowboys or a fan of Dak Prescott because his demands are literally detrimental to the team and its success in the future.



Forgetting what the media has to say about this in the end the Jones decided they do not want Dak as their long term selection at QB.
Personally I believe that Dak got a very low-ball offer one that he had to say NO and this is verified by Dak's brother's tweet full of frustration and disappointment.
Having Zeke, Coop, Collins, etc, etc all get paid, and then hearing the FO just signed a 9-year starter has pretty much confirmed that Dak is DONE is in Big D.
The above occurs when the FO finally realized that they got it wrong with Prescott and need to cut their losses and move on.
Why pay him 31 million you may ask well its a political move for various reasons from the locker room to the fan base.
Dak will implode this season as the pressures will be overbearing (esp in the huddle of disgrace for Dak) and will be replaced by Dalton at some point.
Dak's career in the NFL is about to go south in a big way as the reality of his low talent level is now in the driver's seat.
 

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I know we don't need another Dak thread but Dak brings up some interesting points


-Dak may not have been demanding Mahommes money but it was pretty darn close

-Jerry has always been reasonable in contract negotiations and has always more or less overpaid. Prescott and the new agent was being unreasonable

-The new contract offered by Dallas would've made him the second highest paid qb with over 80 million guaranteed

-The media is currently bashing the dallas cowboys on this but how come no one is reporting what Dak's demands where. That's a very good point by Bayless

-This isn't a kirk cousins deal because Dallas did offer Dak a fair deal, unlike Washington. Dak just didn't want it

I'm left with two things here

1. Does Dak even want to play here anymore? Valid question

2. Why is Jerry the villain all of a sudden, considering in their history they have always signed the player they wanted or needed?


I like Prescott, but several of his fans have to ask themselves, are you a fan of the Dallas Cowboys or a fan of Dak Prescott because his demands are literally detrimental to the team and its success in the future.




Everyone except the 4 people involved with the negotiations don't know the exact truth about any of this. Everyone can believe which story they want to. The one I think makes the most sense to me is the one that said that Prescott agreed to the last offer but they ran out of time. Maybe if Jones made that offer a few hours earlier it might have been done. These contracts aren't just a couple of paragraphs on a single page but many pages long and it takes longer than 5 minutes to read and absorb it. Then if they want to just tweak it with this word changed or omitted or this sentence changed and make those changes and faxed it back and then Jones to read it and absorb it again is going to take longer than 5 minutes. To me since the dollar amount and length was acceptable to Prescott if Jones made that offer earlier then Prescott would probably be on a long term contract now.
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Are you talking about this? Because you keep repeating that "he would have signed" but there is no quote from him on that.


The part where it says.

The deal included a 50M signing bonus and 70M over the first two years. I'm told Dak Prescott wanted to get this deal done but it was just too late per source.

he wanted to get this deal done but it was to late. He would have signed it.
 
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