Dak will never be cheaper to sign than today

Reverend Conehead

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Who are we to decide what fair money is. Obviously we didn’t feel Dak was worth resigning or negotiating which is fine. But we must deal with the repercussions of such decision which will have effects on our football team moving forward.

Busting our chest that we stood firm in negotiations brings no comfort if our team suffers and we can’t find another franchise QB.

Who is anyone to decide that? We're the fans who don't want the team to get salary-cap hamstrung, and it would appear Jerry agrees. And he's right. You can't just sign a quarterback and then win a championship. You have to manage the salary cap so that you have quality talent enough at all positions to have a chance to be a champion. So, to answer your question, Jerry is the one who decides that. And he's right. Yes, they wanted him. But they didn't want to overpay for him. They were smart not to overpay for him. Dak is not the best quarterback in the league. He's not even in the top five. Even if he were, no quarterback who has ever played the game has managed a championship without a highly talented team around him. If you want a team like that, you cannot let your team get salary-cap-hamstrung. But what do I know? Maybe we could just give Dak most of the cap and leave enough left over to pay the other positions the league minimum. Maybe that will work.
 

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Since the tag next year is 37.5, 38 is the floor for the next deal offered by the Cowboys. He might get an average of 40 over four years
 

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This team could win 12 games this year. Cowboys are playing with fire. The front office will have their backs against the wall if they make it to the NFC championship game. You don't blow that up. You either gonna franchise again or make a deal starting at 38M a year. This should have been done 2 years ago. How do you let a 4 year rookie contract...Rookie of the year type player linger. Bad blood is out there and Daks don’t grow on trees. Just Stupid....
 

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We missed our opportunity to sign him last year choosing to wait and see how he performed in 2019. Now if we wait until 2021 he’s going to be much more expensive .

At least about 7 million more just on the Franchise Tag but an extended contract next year will surpass anything we could arrive at today.

Assuming we still want Dak for years to come if we don’t sign him today it’s going to be a poor financial decision compared to next year or years ahead.

The only conclusion we can arrive at today if we don’t extend him is we aren’t sold on Dak and that message will be loud and clear.
Yep!
 

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The OP is right, $37 is the tag next year so that is the new floor on a long term deal when they sit down next off season.

$33-35 went bye bye...…………..we are now in the $37-40 range on a per year basis.

Regardless of what your opinion of Dak is, good or bad, the fact remains that it will indeed be more expense to resign Dak next year, its just math.

Or the team can let him walk in free agency.
 

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The OP is right, $37 is the tag next year so that is the new floor on a long term deal when they sit down next off season.

$33-35 went bye bye...…………..we are now in the $37-40 range on a per year basis.

Regardless of what your opinion of Dak is, good or bad, the fact remains that it will indeed be more expense to resign Dak next year, its just math.

Or the team can let him walk in free agency.
That’s definitely the message I came away with yesterday. If we were intent on resigning Dak that slipped by yesterday.

And why the local media and press is bashing ownership as it will be a financial loss if we end up signing him next year . If we had intentions of resigning our franchise QB yesterday was best opportunity to reduce the cost financially .

This is why we are left with assuming our front office will be moving in another direction in 2021.
 

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What more do we need to see. That’s nuts that we think we need to see our team have more success before resigning Dak. And why we are being bashed.

If we don’t know after Last 4 years what we have then we are horrid evaluators. It’s only going to cost us more.

What you’re basically saying is Daddy and Son are waiting on public perception to be more supportive stepping up to the plate to pay Dak since we can trust their judgement. Lol
Well then we are just going to agree to disagree. You obviously think Dak is far better than I think. So there is no need to argue. Just agreeing to disagree. No matter what I say would change you mind and no matter what you say would change my mind.
 

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Well then we are just going to agree to disagree. You obviously think Dak is far better than I think. So there is no need to argue. Just agreeing to disagree. No matter what I say would change you mind and no matter what you say would change my mind.
You still aren’t seeing my angle here. I’m Not advocating support for Dak. I critiquing our ownership for not getting a deal done because they have been supportive he’s their guy.
 

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You still aren’t seeing my angle here. I’m Not advocating support for Dak. I critiquing our ownership for not getting a deal done because they have been supportive he’s their guy.
It takes 2 to tango. Dak is betting on himself. He will stand to make a boat load more if his gamble works. I love the confidence Dak has shown in himself.
 

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I’ll be curious how far apart we actually were. Reports out of Dallas is Cowboys mismanaged negotiations not striking a deal. And it will be costly if they intend to sign him next year .

Knowing you Diehard and your thing for Jerry I'm sure you'll find a way to blame it all on Jerry and the Cowboys, but the Cowboys made Dak at least a couple of good fair offers and Dak turned his nose up at it. If you want to blame somebody, look to Dak and Todd France.
 
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LMAO...obviously people quickly forget the dark ages before we finally found Tony Romo. Then the years before we found Dak with Romo always getting hurt. The Dark Ages sucked. I have no desire to return to them.
 

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Who cares if Cowboys didn’t cave if it’s going to be costly financially down the road if they intend on signing Dak.

And let’s assume they don’t want to sign Dak next year then what is their plan moving forward for a franchise QB?

And why they are being bashed .

The fact they held their ground on negotiations is not reason to applaud unless of course you don’t want to resign Dak.

The Cowboys lose if we don’t have a franchise QB moving forward.

And Dak is the only possible answer, is that it? So the Cowboys should prepare to pay whatever fortune Dak demands, no matter how high the price.
I'm not so sure that's the smartest way to go.
 

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LMAO...obviously people quickly forget the dark ages before we finally found Tony Romo. Then the years before we found Dak with Romo always getting hurt. The Dark Ages sucked. I have no desire to return to them.

I'd like to have seen the Cowboys arrive at an agreement with Dak, but an agreement requires 2 sides, and Dak was not satisfied with a fair offer, he wanted too much. He seems to think he's the top dog in the NFL. I think the Cowboys did the right thing.
 
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Who cares if Cowboys didn’t cave if it’s going to be costly financially down the road if they intend on signing Dak.

And let’s assume they don’t want to sign Dak next year then what is their plan moving forward for a franchise QB?

And why they are being bashed .

The fact they held their ground on negotiations is not reason to applaud unless of course you don’t want to resign Dak.

The Cowboys lose if we don’t have a franchise QB moving forward.
Stick to selling insurance.
 

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Stick to selling insurance.
Sorry buddy but Stephen and his Daddy are being bashed big time for this contract failing . I’m just echoing the vibe here locally.

Personally , I’m not attached to Dak. Just enjoy bashing our owners.
 

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Sorry buddy but Stephen and his Daddy are being bashed big time for this contract failing..... . I’m just echoing the vibe here locally.

Personally , I’m not attached to Dak. Just enjoy bashing our owners.

bashed.........by people who don't know any more for sure than the rest of us do! Like you said, you "just enjoy bashing our owners."
 
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bashed.........by people who don't know any more for sure than the rest of us do! Like you said, you "just enjoy bashing our owners."
Actually it’s from beat writers and sports reporters who are closer to the situation with more access than any of us do. You’re just discrediting or discounting cause you don’t agree with it.

Im more of a Dak critic and was ready to applaud the Cowboys for not resigning but I follow the local media and journalism closely often influenced along with public perception . And yes, don’t we all look for material to support our agendas.

Their criticism isn’t revolving around whether Dak is worthy of the contract or not . It’s more directed that if the Cowboys Mgmt were intent on making Dak their future they missed a great opportunity to seal the deal.

And by potentially waiting another year for whatever reason is going to cost them millions which ironically is what some of the opponents are applauding Mgmt for by standing pat to save money which is ridiculous cause if we sign him next year will cost much more.
 
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Actually it’s from beat writers and sports reporters who are closer to the situation with more access than any of us do. You’re just discrediting or discounting cause you don’t agree with it. Im more of a Dak critic and was ready to applaud the Cowboys for not resigning but I follow the local media and journalism closely often influenced along with public perception . And yes, don’t we all look for material to support our agendas.Their criticism isn’t revolving around whether Dak is worthy of the contract or not . It’s more directed that if the Cowboys Mgmt were intent on making Dak their future they missed a great opportunity to seal the deal.
And by potentially waiting another year for whatever reason is going to cost them millions which ironically is what some of the opponents are applauding Mgmt for by standing pat to save money which is ridiculous cause if we sign him next year will cost much more.

It could very well be that they won't mind paying more if Dak proves he's worth it. On the other hand if he proves this year that he's NOT worth that monster contract, then the Cowboys just dodged a bullet!! A BIG bullet!
Sounds like a reasonable plan to me. You wind up with a proven product that's worth the cost, or you avoid being stuck paying a monster contract to a loser. That's a win / win situation.
 
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It could very well be that they won't mind paying more if Dak proves he's worth it. On the other hand if he proves this year that he's NOT worth that monster contract, then the Cowboys just dodged a bullet!! A BIG bullet!
Then you’re all about public perception.

You don’t trust your evaluation of his performance after 4 years. You need it validated by the teams success? Which might be exactly our Football Idiots and Son dilemma. Pitiful .. lol

No wonder they’re being bashed.
 

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Then you’re all about public perception.

You don’t trust your evaluation of his performance after 4 years. You need it validated by the teams success? Which might be exactly our Football Idiots and Son dilemma. Pitiful .. lol

No wonder they’re being bashed.

What, you think the teams success or lack of has nothing to do with their evaluation???? No wonder you're LOL!
You should be LOL at your own post. :laugh:
 
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