Owner's pay the players 6 billion per year

[NotForLong]

Thanxs. Sorry if I come across to harsh in my postings. Take my posts with alot of playful sarcasm. We argue, but it's all for fun.

Thats called Pride

 

[NotForLong]

I agree but just bc someone is focused on making the most money possible doesn’t mean they necessarily worship money.

they could worship their family and hope to pass wealth on for multiple generations too, in that case money is just a medium to their life goal which I can’t begrudge anyone.

Oh, you are talking hypohteicaly. Yeah that could happen but the rest of the 99% are greedy.

Even that good hearted guy you were talking about is corruptiable if making money is the foundation of his belief system

 

[NotForLong]

I hope mods will let this stay in fan zone for 24 hours.

So they are not that greedy.
32 teams each with 200 mil cap this year, so 32x200 mil is 6.4 billion dollars!
I knocked off the 400 mill for unused cap.

On top of that consider team uniforms, jocks socks training equipment, training facility and maintenance of that.
Travel expenses every time team goes somewhere meals [some of these guys cant eat!]
Stadium maintenance , the electric and water bills for home games Stadium lights have to use a lot of juice,
and 90,000 people using RR use a lot of water.

Owners have a lot of expenses that people rarely think about.

Now Jake posted that the coming season tv rights will generate over 5 billion, which is great,
but that doesnt even cover the cap of 6.4 billion. So owners dont profit on that at all. That just helps
pay the players.

So the owners make most of their profit from home games, 90,000 seats on avg , and the concessions
they get too.
those of u who actually have gone to games recently could figure up and post what you think
they pull in per game
I just guessed at $50 per person , and x 90,000 = 4.5 mil per game,x 8 =36 mil per year
then add the sponsor money,= 50 mil per year?
That is a lot, but doesnt seem like much considering all the billions thrown around.

I think the teams worth, has to include the value of the stadium itself and practice facility and other things.

So this is why the owners really need to have fans at the games, because that is their main source
of income that can be profit.
This is also why they want another home game every year or two years,[with 17 games]

Actually, its the Fans who pay the players. The Owners keep the difference

 

[CowboyRoy]

I hope mods will let this stay in fan zone for 24 hours.

So they are not that greedy.
32 teams each with 200 mil cap this year, so 32x200 mil is 6.4 billion dollars!
I knocked off the 400 mill for unused cap.

On top of that consider team uniforms, jocks socks training equipment, training facility and maintenance of that.
Travel expenses every time team goes somewhere meals [some of these guys cant eat!]
Stadium maintenance , the electric and water bills for home games Stadium lights have to use a lot of juice,
and 90,000 people using RR use a lot of water.

Owners have a lot of expenses that people rarely think about.

Now Jake posted that the coming season tv rights will generate over 5 billion, which is great,
but that doesnt even cover the cap of 6.4 billion. So owners dont profit on that at all. That just helps
pay the players.

So the owners make most of their profit from home games, 90,000 seats on avg , and the concessions
they get too.
those of u who actually have gone to games recently could figure up and post what you think
they pull in per game
I just guessed at $50 per person , and x 90,000 = 4.5 mil per game,x 8 =36 mil pehttps://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/2020/07/18/cowboys-news-prescott-leagues-best-deep-passer-nflpa-wants-0-preseason/r year
then add the sponsor money,= 50 mil per year?
That is a lot, but doesnt seem like much considering all the billions thrown around.

I think the teams worth, has to include the value of the stadium itself and practice facility and other things.

So this is why the owners really need to have fans at the games, because that is their main source
of income that can be profit.
This is also why they want another home game every year or two years,[with 17 games]

Owners need to put he player back in their place. I like Jerry's idea that salaries need to be capped at a percentage of the salary cap. No ONE Player should be able to take such a large amount. I would think the players union would favor that as the majority are NOT QB's.

 

[NotForLong]

This has evolved over time in the NFL. This era most of the owners were billionaires before buying a NFL team. Jerry is one of the exceptions this era.

Years ago wealthy men in the communities bought a team not necessarily for profit but for the enjoyment and competitive nature providing for their fellow citizens. There really want much money or profits in owning a franchise. The value developed over time as the franchise itself gained more value.

Most teams didn’t own their stadium. Rented out facilities and headquarters , basically a seasonal entity. TV rights changed the scope of NFL.

At this moment Jerry owns the rights to the Box seats in Las Vegas and Las Angeles.

I wonder how that will affect Jerry's bottom line

 

[Flamma]

yeah I was way too low lol.
Well you dont have to have a cap, but it does even the playing field competitively.
The nfl owners agreed to share revenue, and other sports owners probably dont want to share, as the more profitable teams would then make less
per year.

Yes it evens the playing field to a point. But let us not pretend it also keeps player salaries down dramatically. Then add rookie contracts to the mix. Besides that, we still have teams going 0-16 and one team went 16-0 during the salary cap era. The only thing I have seen the cap accomplish is preventing stacked teams. Because the garbage teams still remain. I also believe that 2013 Peyton Manning Broncos team was a direct result of the cap. Every defense in that AFC team was average. He just tore through them like he was playing a video game. Then he met a real defense in the SB. No way he has that kind of season in the 80s. There would always be that one team that punches you in the mouth.

 

[conner01]

n 2018, the 32 teams of the NFL generated revenue of 14.48 billion U.S. dollars.

 

[Ranching]

Anyone who worships money is greedy.

I like nice things!!! Sorry, I'm so ashamed......

 

[conner01]

Considering that the cap is calculated as a percentage of revenue (I believe it is 47% right now but might be 47.5% next seasons) you can know exactly how much revenue the NFL made last season. Running the rough math on that you get a number the net NFL revenue was 13.495 billion dollars. Now you have to subtract from that the salary cap and front office/coaches salaries and the like, but generally owners make about 100-200 million per year depending on the team.

n 2018, the 32 teams of the NFL generated revenue of 14.48 billion U.S. dollars.
thats 2018 league revenue which goes up each year substantially or the cap wouldn’t go up each year
That’s league revenue and some teams have other revenue sources
Jerry makes huge money off the stadium for other events for example
The players share a percentage of the revenue and the owners get more of the revenue because they have over head
But owners are making huge money themselves as is the players
Because there is huge money is pro sports
Seems fair that players and owners agree on a fair split of that money. And that’s what the cba really is about

 

[Diehardblues]

Owners need to put he player back in their place. I like Jerry's idea that salaries need to be capped at a percentage of the salary cap. No ONE Player should be able to take such a large amount. I would think the players union would favor that as the majority are NOT QB's.

The owners could discipline themselves. I can’t imagine the NFLPA agreeing to placing a limit by position.

We also must remember this isn’t just a game. It’s an entertainment business.

The QB while by most accounts the most popular position is also usually the most popular player driving ticket sales, TV revenue, merchandise and jersey sales along with Fantasy fans.

NFL QB’s are the driving force of interest for the league. It’s the one position most fans can name on other teams. They are the leading star of the show.

 

[MikeB80]

I hope mods will let this stay in fan zone for 24 hours.

So they are not that greedy.
32 teams each with 200 mil cap this year, so 32x200 mil is 6.4 billion dollars!
I knocked off the 400 mill for unused cap.

On top of that consider team uniforms, jocks socks training equipment, training facility and maintenance of that.
Travel expenses every time team goes somewhere meals [some of these guys cant eat!]
Stadium maintenance , the electric and water bills for home games Stadium lights have to use a lot of juice,
and 90,000 people using RR use a lot of water.

Owners have a lot of expenses that people rarely think about.

Now Jake posted that the coming season tv rights will generate over 5 billion, which is great,
but that doesnt even cover the cap of 6.4 billion. So owners dont profit on that at all. That just helps
pay the players.

So the owners make most of their profit from home games, 90,000 seats on avg , and the concessions
they get too.
those of u who actually have gone to games recently could figure up and post what you think
they pull in per game
I just guessed at $50 per person , and x 90,000 = 4.5 mil per game,x 8 =36 mil per year
then add the sponsor money,= 50 mil per year?
That is a lot, but doesnt seem like much considering all the billions thrown around.

I think the teams worth, has to include the value of the stadium itself and practice facility and other things.

So this is why the owners really need to have fans at the games, because that is their main source
of income that can be profit.
This is also why they want another home game every year or two years,[with 17 games]

50 dollars per person? its 2020 most teams have psl's . You didn't include the insane amount of money those make for the teams while providing zero for the fan buying them. Its highway robbery that allows teams to declare sellouts because you have to pay for the psl to get the tickets and we pay for tickets in may.

most parking at Cowboys stadium is 50 or more. The cheapest official lot, lot 15 is 50 dollars. The regular lots open by surrounding businesses are on average now 30 dollars. Tickets in a large section of the stadium cost 325 dollars per person.

The new stadiums around the nfl have been a license to rob fans at every turn.

 

[Diehardblues]

Uhh where are these mechanisms...they have been completely wiped out in the last 40 years.

They’re still there just not always as utilized and governed without getting into subjects we’re not allowed to discuss.

 

[Jipper]

Oh, you are talking hypohteicaly. Yeah that could happen but the rest of the 99% are greedy.

Even that good hearted guy you were talking about is corruptiable if making money is the foundation of his belief system

In all fairness since neither of us personally know any of the above referenced individuals I believe both of us are speculating respectfully.

There is always someone with more money they someone with less money will look at and define through their own lens, I’m sure to someone making 50k a year, an individual making 200k could look wealthy and to that same 200k person a person making 500k would....it’s all point of view

I guess my point is that I’m not going to try and identify someone’s motives without knowing them despit the urge to call both jerry and the players greedy...and I do have those exact urges 100 percent


And my key word is try....

 

[Jake]

Owners need to put he player back in their place. I like Jerry's idea that salaries need to be capped at a percentage of the salary cap. No ONE Player should be able to take such a large amount. I would think the players union would favor that as the majority are NOT QB's.

Is this the same Jerry who recently spent $250 million on a yacht? Owners make that kind of money because of the players.

No one is forcing them to pay QBs over $30 million/year. They can stop doing it any time they choose. They'll just lose players to other owners who are willing to do it.

 

[CowboyRoy]

The owners could discipline themselves. I can’t imagine the NFLPA agreeing to placing a limit by position.

We also must remember this isn’t just a game. It’s an entertainment business.

The QB while by most accounts the most popular position is also usually the most popular player driving ticket sales, TV revenue, merchandise and jersey sales along with Fantasy fans.

NFL QB’s are the driving force of interest for the league. It’s the one position most fans can name on other teams. They are the leading star of the show.

Jerry's idea was to limit how much any one player can make. Yah, the players probably would never agree. But if they had any brains they would realize that by limiting what the QB makes, there is more money left over for the rest of them.

 

[Diehardblues]

The problem is we have fans who’d want to be a player making that kind of money. There’s resentment, envy, etc.

Personally I wouldn’t play for any amount of money. Too violent for me. Plus I don’t need the money. I was very blessed in our business.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Is this the same Jerry who recently spent $250 million on a yacht? Owners make that kind of money because of the players.

No one is forcing them to pay QBs over $30 million/year. They can stop doing it any time they choose. They'll just lose players to other owners who are willing to do it.

Owners were making money long before the players played football. Its the owners that create for venue for the players to do their thing, not the other way around. Players come and go.

You root for the Dallas Cowboys, not for Zeke Elliott. If Zeke were to be traded you wouldn't follow to another team.

 

[Diehardblues]

Jerry's idea was to limit how much any one player can make. Yah, the players probably would never agree. But if they had any brains they would realize that by limiting what the QB makes, there is more money left over for the rest of them.

Once you open up that Pandora’s box where does it stop. And like you said. The players would never agree.

No one but the competition and market is forcing owners to pay that much to a QB. The Rookie QB contracts offers a nice alternative for the owners. And aging veterans. Look how cheap we signed Dalton. A starter for what a decade? So , there are choices.

 

[dckid]

I hope mods will let this stay in fan zone for 24 hours.

So they are not that greedy.
32 teams each with 200 mil cap this year, so 32x200 mil is 6.4 billion dollars!
I knocked off the 400 mill for unused cap.

On top of that consider team uniforms, jocks socks training equipment, training facility and maintenance of that.
Travel expenses every time team goes somewhere meals [some of these guys cant eat!]
Stadium maintenance , the electric and water bills for home games Stadium lights have to use a lot of juice,
and 90,000 people using RR use a lot of water.

Owners have a lot of expenses that people rarely think about.

Now Jake posted that the coming season tv rights will generate over 5 billion, which is great,
but that doesnt even cover the cap of 6.4 billion. So owners dont profit on that at all. That just helps
pay the players.

So the owners make most of their profit from home games, 90,000 seats on avg , and the concessions
they get too.
those of u who actually have gone to games recently could figure up and post what you think
they pull in per game
I just guessed at $50 per person , and x 90,000 = 4.5 mil per game,x 8 =36 mil per year
then add the sponsor money,= 50 mil per year?
That is a lot, but doesnt seem like much considering all the billions thrown around.

I think the teams worth, has to include the value of the stadium itself and practice facility and other things.

So this is why the owners really need to have fans at the games, because that is their main source
of income that can be profit.
This is also why they want another home game every year or two years,[with 17 games]

Each team gets 250 million from the TV contract.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Once you open up that Pandora’s box where does it stop. And like you said. The players would never agree.

No one but the competition and market is forcing owners to pay that much to a QB. The Rookie QB contracts offers a nice alternative for the owners. And aging veterans. Look how cheap we signed Dalton. A starter for what a decade? So , there are choices.

yah, at the end of the day the owners need to protect themselves from themselves.

The players have a union, why cant the owner have one? Players can collude but owners cant? Double standard.

Owners need to force the players to do it however they have to. Break the union like they have done in the past.