Wasn’t Brady worth it at 22-25 mil

[DFWJC]

By a mile.

Brady's not quite as washed as Brees, but he's not Tom Brady anymore.

Not sure Brady would even want to play here.
Plus, I think Dallas was looking longer term anyway.
But I can't begin to imagine what he would do with this line, this RB, and this WR group.
There is no way we can compare what the two players did statistically without taking into account the offenses around them.

But yeah, the 2019 Pats offense--with maybe the worst WR group and the league last year--was carried by their D

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Brady lost two starters on the o-line, an all pro and likely HOF TE, and #1 WR before game 1.

How does Dak handle that adversity?

Brady won as many playoff games as Dak did last year. I would say Brady didn't handle it good at all. Brady isn't a top QB anymore regardless what anybody says about Dak

 

[Jake]

In hindsight , honestly , shouldn’t the cowboys just grabbed Brady for 25-25 mil for the best chance to reach the Super Bowl this year or next while we still have the talent on the roster ?
Does any one really believe Dak gives us a better chance than Brady in the 2 year window ?

I believe what I really want is the 2019 Patriots defense - they allowed only 20 TDs in 16 games. They also intercepted 25 passes, most in the NFL.

The Cowboys defense allowed 35 TDs and intercepted 7 passes, last in the NFL. Slight difference.

The Patriots held 11 opponents to 14 or fewer points last season. They went 11-0 in those games. They went 1-5 in the rest of their games.

Brady's days of carrying a team on his back are over. He's 43 years old.

 

[blueblood70]

FYI - Brady is not that good anymore. He's basically Andy Dalton.

but Gronk and Brady's experience, poise in the pocket and reading defenses all come with him..physically not the same but like Manning did for Denver, its might be worth a shot..

 

[Future]

Not sure Brady would even want to play here.
Plus, I think Dallas was looking longer term anyway.
But I can't begin to imagine what he would do with this line, this RB, and this WR group.
There is no way we can compare what the two players did statistically without taking into account the offenses around them.

But yeah, the 2019 Pats offense--with maybe the worst WR group and the league last year--was carried by their D

I think it's fair to say that Dak's numbers were better b/c of the talent around him, but I think you also have to ask the question of what kind of numbers do we actually think that Brady would put up?

It's really difficult to be much more productive than Dak was. It's not like Brady was going to come out and throw for 6,000 yards.

 

[Future]

but Gronk and Brady's experience, poise in the pocket and reading defenses all come with him..physically not the same but like Manning did for Denver, its might be worth a shot..

I think you're right in that Brady's presence alone will get rid of some of the keystone cops type of games that we've seen in the past from Tampa.

But I think he's hugely misaligned with what Bruce Arians likes to do, and what that receiving corps is. They can't ask Brady to throw 9s all game, like they did with Carson Palmer. That's never been his game, and certainly isn't now.

 

[mcmvp]

I think it's fair to say that Dak's numbers were better b/c of the talent around him, but I think you also have to ask the question of what kind of numbers do we actually think that Brady would put up?

It's really difficult to be much more productive than Dak was. It's not like Brady was going to come out and throw for 6,000 yards.

With the Cowboys roster, Brady likely would've had less yardage, but more TDs...and better red zone efficiency. He's just a better decision maker than anyone else currently playing. That is what people who dismiss him as washed up are missing. I agree his best days are behind him, but much of the game is still played between the ears.

 

[shabazz]

Brady doesn't have his peak physical skills, but his superior football mind and this incredible offense would yield phenomenal results.

Now the one thing he no longer has, is an offensive line that can hold with impunity.

He would just need an above average defense here to take it to the house

 

[DFWJC]

I think it's fair to say that Dak's numbers were better b/c of the talent around him, but I think you also have to ask the question of what kind of numbers do we actually think that Brady would put up?

It's really difficult to be much more productive than Dak was. It's not like Brady was going to come out and throw for 6,000 yards.

I think Dak had a fine year and he racked up incredible numbers mostly vs bad teams.
Not his fault that New York and Washington sucked last year.
Nearly half of his TD passes (14 of 30) came vs those two teams--which is astonishing.

Total yards are an odd stat. Very deceptive at times...see Winston. But Dak also had a solid QB rating and a good TD-int differential (which is a big stat, imo).

I think Brady would've had both a higher rating and higher TD-Int differential without team last year. Say 40 TD passes vs 30.
But its all theory.

His days are numbered and any team going with him would've had to have been certain they were moving on from their QB.
No way that was Dallas with Dak.

 

[Doomsday101]

I'm interested in seeing how Brady does. I saw several games last year where Brady threw some throws that were up for grabs when he was under pressure. I think in NE he knew the system as well as Belicheck did, it is like walking in your room with no lights on, you know where everything is. Now he is on a new team, new system, new coaches yet I don't believe no longer in his prime. He may surprise me but in own view he will not have a great season and may regret not retiring as a Pat.

 

[dfense]

FYI - Brady is not that good anymore. He's basically Andy Dalton.

Andy would love to go 12-4.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Brady never had a receiver corp like this one............he'd kill it

Didn't he have Edleman, Randy Moss and Welker at one point?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Andy would love to go 12-4.

Andy could NEVER lol...I agree Brady has fell off but his fell off is still superior to Andy Dalton.

 

[cowboygo]

In hindsight , honestly , shouldn’t the cowboys just grabbed Brady for 25-25 mil for the best chance to reach the Super Bowl this year or next while we still have the talent on the roster ?
Does any one really believe Dak gives us a better chance than Brady in the 2 year window ?

1. Yes
2. I do not, especially if we tag Dak again at 37M next year. That's a stud player we can resign or get in free agency by having Brady. We would be sacrificing the future of the QB position by going with Brady, but we wouldve maximized our chances in the next 2 years.

 

[Doomsday101]

Andy could NEVER lol...I agree Brady has fell off but his fell off is still superior to Andy Dalton.

I agree, but then Dalton is not coming to Dallas to be a starter, Brady is going to Tampa as a starter.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I agree, but then Dalton is not coming to Dallas to be a starter, Brady is going to Tampa as a starter.

Which goes to show that they aren't of the same caliber at ALL and never will be.

 

[Doomsday101]

Which goes to show that they aren't of the same caliber at ALL and never will be.

Of course not, you could say the same about several QB vs Brady. I have respect for Brady but I also know going to a new team, new system, new coaches is much different than spending 20 years on 1 team, he knew his team inside and out just as much as the HC did. He played on a team who was highly disciplined who did not beat themselves. He may surprise me and be great in TB but in my opinion I don't think this move will work out as some seem to think it will.

 

[Red Dragon]

Brady wouldn't want to play in Dallas. He already said before that he grew up in the Bay Area as a 49ers fan and that the Cowboys are/were his most hated team.

 

[Future]

With the Cowboys roster, Brady likely would've had less yardage, but more TDs...and better red zone efficiency. He's just a better decision maker than anyone else currently playing. That is what people who dismiss him as washed up are missing. I agree his best days are behind him, but much of the game is still played between the ears.

Can't throw touchdown passes if you run the ball in the red zone.

Dak's decision making is never really problematic anyway.

 

[Flamma]

In hindsight , honestly , shouldn’t the cowboys just grabbed Brady for 25-25 mil for the best chance to reach the Super Bowl this year or next while we still have the talent on the roster ?
Does any one really believe Dak gives us a better chance than Brady in the 2

Not sure Brady would even want to play here.
Plus, I think Dallas was looking longer term anyway.
But I can't begin to imagine what he would do with this line, this RB, and this WR group.
There is no way we can compare what the two players did statistically without taking into account the offenses around them.

But yeah, the 2019 Pats offense--with maybe the worst WR group and the league last year--was carried by their D

Can't argue this. Brady, Gronk, Gallup, Cooper, Lamb, and Zeke? That just isn't fair.