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Dallas Cowboys: Stephen Jones is ruthless and the real villain

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Dallas Cowboys: Stephen Jones is ruthless and the real villain

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Anyone that has been paying attention will know Stephen will be worse than Jerry. He has all of Jerry’s arrogance without any of his charm. Plus he is cheap.
 

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Yawn. Fans were mad about Jerry being too reckless. Fans are mad about Stephen being too cautious.

All it boils down to is that fans won’t be happy until there is another Super Bowl title. At least until the first quarter of the next game.
 

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I have no doubt whatsoever that Stephen has bungled the Dak negotiations. Not that it is solely his fault, but he's certainly a big reason in getting us to this point.

If anyone has doubts, just look at how the last three big-money deals were handled with Cooper, Elliott, and Lawrence:
  1. Cooper was paid at the top of the receiver market because the team had no choice at that point after investing a 1st round pick in the guy without an extension worked out.
  2. Elliott was overpaid - and two years before he was due. Setting the top of the market for the running back position, that few, if any successful teams pay.
  3. Lawrence was tagged when defensive end contracts were reasonable and they exploded in the meantime with the Mack and Donald deals, and then Lawrence got his deal, for much more money than if they had just done it in the first place!
On any other team, the contract negotiator would have lost his job, but when your last name is Jones and you have a job for life, you can bungle things as badly as possible, with zero consequences.
 

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Stephen you should have thought about that before paying Pro Bowl running back Ezekiel Elliott to a massive $90 million- six year contract extension last season.

Let’s be mindful that Zeke had two years remaining on his contract.

Although Zeke is one of the best running backs in the league, how do you give Zeke his money when he plays one of the most replaceable positions in football?


Ok.

It’s true Stephen offered Murray a low contract because they fed Murray twice as many carries as he had since he joined the league, but Murray was worth it and still had some gas in the tank at the age of 27. Stephen didn’t think he was worth his asking price and let him walk.

So, which is it?

And, by extending Zeke early, which they didn't care for but took advantage of, his cap hits would be not near 15mil a year until the very end when if his play dips he's an easy cut. People need to stop looking at total money cause very rarely will any player actually get all their salary from extensions.

Dallas signed him cause they found a way to make his contract flexible early and often-s long as he plays well. They also signed Smith to a team friendly team and struck early gold getting Collins locked up.

Blame goes on both sides, but there is no villain and victim among both sides.
 

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Yeah, but it's hard to argue with the Cowboys on-field success during Stephen's tenure. :muttley:

It's almost as if he's never worked for an NFL team that wasn't owned by his father, or something.
 

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Surprisingly what many in Cowboys Nation still do not realize is that the face and direction of the Cowboys organization
is changing and its' really a new sheriff is in town.
In terms of how Team (and NFL league) is being marketed, advertising, plans and events, invested and building structures,
Television negotiations and revue is concern, Jerry is still da the leading man, ..there has never been a bigger marketeer, contributor
or business innovator than Jerry in the history of the NFL, imo.

In terms of how the cowboys nowadays is being structured in direction of coaching,..player personnel, trades, free agency, draft, cap structure
Stephen is now leading the charge. ,, not Jerry.
Oh don't get me wrong, Jerry is still involved, but all points to Jerry surprisingly allowing his son to lead the direction at this point,..vs the days where Jerry was taking us.
 

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Murray was not worth what the Eagles paid.
Byron Jones was not worth what the Dolphins paid.
Dak is not worth more than $30M/year in my opinion.

Stephen was right on Murray. We will soon learn on Jones and Dak if there is a season.

How about Lawrence and Elliott?
 

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Surprisingly what many in Cowboys Nation still do not realize is that the face and direction of the Cowboys organization
is changing and its' really a new sheriff is in town.
In terms of how Team (and NFL league) is being marketed, advertising, plans and events, invested and building structures,
Television negotiations and revue is concern, Jerry is still da the leading man, ..there has never been a bigger marketeer, contributor
or business innovator than Jerry in the history of the NFL, imo.

In terms of how the cowboys nowadays is being structured in direction of coaching,..player personnel, trades, free agency, draft, cap structure
Stephen is now leading the charge. ,, not Jerry.
Oh don't get me wrong, Jerry is still involved, but all points to Jerry surprisingly allowing his son to lead the direction at this point,..vs the days where Jerry was taking us.

I agree.

I'm just not sure that I like everywhere that the son is 'leading' us.

Some things I like, as in not growing too attached to people not earning their money. Jerry would often be overly loyal where Stephen appears less so.

But in terms of negotiating some of these contracts? He looks just as bad as Jerry did on some of 'em.

It's a mixed bag for me.
 

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I really hope the Cowboys FO realizes that it's up to them to make their relations with their QBs is one that listens and understands just what it takes to negotiate in good faith. Of course, the same holds true for the players.

I don't know, firsthand, who's to blame for their failure, but as a fan, I'd like nothing better than to see a deal being made that offers a likelihood for having a successful team. Too much to ask? Certainly not. I think Jerry, Stephen and Todd France all need to get a handle on sound negotiating, in general.

The hardball approach isn't one that, obviously, has appealed to either side. That's perfectly clear by now. More willingness to compromise would likely be advisable in the future, by the looks of things.
 
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