News: SDFW: Dallas Cowboys: Stephen Jones is ruthless and the real villain

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Steven is just as stupid as his daddy when it comes to running a football team, only difference is that Jerry at least spent money where Steven is cheap as hell.

I told you guys who have been saying for years "just wait till Steven takes over, its going to be soo much better than Jerry" that you better be careful what you wish for.
how did jerry's spending equate to nfc championships or superbowls the last 25 years??? it didn't.
 
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Yep. Moderation is always good, but better to have the spender than the tight wad. At least from my POV. The time to sign him would have been after 2018. Now I think it's over.

However, that article made my head hurt. So much wrong with it.
Maybe you weren’t paying attention, but we tried to negotiate a new contract with him then. He refused.
 

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Yep. Moderation is always good, but better to have the spender than the tight wad. At least from my POV. The time to sign him would have been after 2018. Now I think it's over.

However, that article made my head hurt. So much wrong with it.
it's hard to be a "spender" when the amount you can spend is legislated by the league. it's all about "the pie"
 

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The people on here claiming the FO doesn’t spend money on players must have been living under rocks on Mars over the past few decades. There’s ZERO legitimacy to this claim. None.
 

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You should hate the way the Jones family have ran Cowboys Football. They have been the greatest handicap , hindrance and obstacle to overcome. Not to mention an embarrassment to our city and the legacy of football excellence the previous era produced. And why Jerry is the most hated sports personality in Dallas. If not for the early success with Jimmy they’d of been ran out of town.
i have always said i thought jerry was a horrible gm and blamed him for the team's poor showing for years. but that doesn't mean that like in the klingon homeworld i hold the son accountable for the sins of the father. you're just looking to start an argument. problem is, you don't have any facts to back up your argument. just uncontrolled, emotional responses. classic emo.
 

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i have always said i thought jerry was a horrible gm and blamed him for the team's poor showing for years. but that doesn't mean that like in the klingon homeworld i hold the son accountable for the sins of the father. you're just looking to start an argument. problem is, you don't have any facts to back up your argument. just uncontrolled, emotional responses. classic emo.
I have provided several poor judgements on Stephens alleged influence beginning with his RB by committee debacle.
 

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What the hell has Cheapskate Son done to bring us closer to a championship this era than Jerry’s done?

And if Dak walks we take a step back again just like we did after penny pinching on Murray, letting Romo go , could even argue letting Dez go temporarily set us back needing a Hail Mary trade to bail out.

What frikin facts do we have that Stephen has placed us any closer to a championship with his penny pinching ways. More mediocre results.
 
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it's hard to be a "spender" when the amount you can spend is legislated by the league. it's all about "the pie"
It is about the pie and where you spend it is critical.

Who is paying top money on an OL, RB, WR and then won’t do it on their QB? Either priorities are out of whack or we became All In on the wrong QB.

And then we wonder why over investing on offense that isn’t great enough to carry the team further we don’t have a good defense.

It’s pitiful a #1 offense can’t carry a team further than 8-8. Poor use of Cap money. Over invested in one side of the ball that isn’t great enough to do more.
 

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This will go down as one of the few bright spots during his tenure. This has MM written all over it. A true football mind can see Dak for what he is ...average!

If this portrayal of events is true then Stephen Jones is even dumber than I thought. Who offers $110 million guaranteed to someone they don't want? :muttley:

Then again, maybe it's this portrayal of events that doesn't make sense?
 

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Cheap?!? He offered 35, with 110 guaranteed! Add endorsements and no tax Texas, and Dak is FILTHY rich for life. The writer of this article IS a Dink!

Give these delusional, entitled players anything they ask for, or YOU’RE a villain?!? Hahahahaha

Dallas is the king of the 1 year contract now. Quinn should still be here. Next year it will be Hicks. I am all for fiscal discipline but this team is built to win now. I truly hope they don’t have to replace Dak. That great OL and Zeke’s careers will have been wasted.
 

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How can anyone call him or Booger cheap with the deals with Lawrence, Collins, Smith, Elliott and Cooper? They now have 6 of the O players in the top 6 paid at their position, that's cheap?

No one is to blame for not getting the deal done, they couldn't come to terms.

The cap isn't the Joneses problem, their problem is talent evaluation and placing a proper value on that. The cap creates an even playing field for those with good talent evaluation skills and is very unforgiving to those without.

Why did they think they could get Prescott to crater when they became the first team to make the RB holding out with two years on his contract the highest paid RB in history?

Anyone blaming Prescott should take a long look at the Joneses' history of blinking with star players. The question is did not cratering on this send the message that they're not as round heeled as they have been in the past?

A happy agent is one with a star player up for a contract or even one that isn't. The Joneses can't see the cap landscape with all of those stars in their eyes.
 

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I often agree with you but I don’t think the team got cheap with Dak. I think they offered him around R Wilson money but wanted the five years to give them flexibility with the cap. Dak was adamant on the four years and Stephen was adamant on the 5.

IMO, it isn’t fair to expect the team to give on their stance while expecting Dak/France not to.

I think that it was a combination of a few things that led us to this point: The franchise tag, the uncertainty of the financial outlook because of the pandemic and the all-new coaching staff.

With the franchise tag, Dak’s services were guaranteed in Dallas, no matter what.

From Stephen’s perspective, Dak was going to be his QB in 2020, no matter what... which is the big thing and it removed any real sense of urgency that the team might feel. It did take away some cap room this season - all $31M had to hit this year - but it isn’t that different from what he’d be paying on a long term deal (LTD). Plus, the actual amount Dak is going to play for (31) is below the yearly average of what Dak would make on a LTD.

The financial outlook and what the league (and salary cap) will do was (I’m sure) always in the back of Stephen’s mind. I simply think that this kept Stephen from going any higher on his offer to Dak. He wasn’t, IMO, going to let the money creep up from what was already a crazy high figure (R Wilson) when he doesn’t know if the salary cap will flatten or even recede from its current figure. Particularly when Dak was making the team fight for flexibility in structure, along with the dollar figure.

It would have been reckless to do so, and frankly as much as I do like Dak, I’m glad that Stephen drew a line and didn’t cross it. I support that because as a fan of the team, I don’t want the cap to be too stressed to pay some of the other good players that they’ll need to.

Then, throw in that there is the inherent uncertainty of Dak having never played for McCarthy and in his system and you have a unique situation where the team felt like it wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world to let Dak play a year on the franchise tag. Let the league figure out where it will be financially before next season and have a year with Dak playing under MM to see what you’re getting there.

It makes perfect sense to me and really, I don’t understand why some are so upset by it. Yes, the contract will likely cost more next year but to have certainty on the cap and Dak’s play under McCarthy would be well worth it to the team.
Like I said above, the one thing that would have galvanized the team into getting a LTD done would have been if they could have lost his services this season... and absent that, there was too much upside with just waiting to next season to get the LTD done.

As for Dak, his perspective is simple: He will make $31 million this season, which is infinitely more than he made last season. Plus, he knows that he has great weapons in Dallas and will be playing under a coach that is somewhat of a passing game guru (and under Moore), so he expects to have a good enough season to up his pay after waiting a year. Not to mention that he knows more pressure will be on Dallas in a year because of the franchise tag being so high to do it again.

Making more this year than he’s ever made in his life and with the ability to pick right back up with the negotiations after the season made enough sense to him that he didn’t feel compelled to sign a deal now that isn’t 100% what he wanted.

So, I get both sides and why they decided to just wait until the off season to pick it up again.

I don’t think either side is really upset about waiting until after the season. There were simply too many reasons on each side to wait. No real reason to push hard and concede a lot on what they wanted. I think everybody is fine just waiting. Well, everyone except some of the fans.
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WRONG being a shrewd businessman does not make you a monster..jeez im sorry poor Mr Dakota Prescott only gets 31.5 million dollars to play a game this season, and possibly 37 next season and the 4mil hes already made and all the endorsements $$$$, all because the Dallas Cowboys' selected him in the draft in the 4th round and gave him a job..

also feel real bad he was made a ridiculously fair offer with over 100mil guaranteed at near 34 pus a year?

i am so sad and wish he didn't have to eat hot dogs and bologna some Ramen for a special night in his mobile home park, poor thing!!!

Note sarcasm!!~

lets get this straight Franks and daks the greedy stubborn duo who dont see a fair deal and run with it.. smh this is so insane blaming the jonses for wanting a 5th year as its how they want to conduct business after Tsmith took what 8 years Mahomes 10.Phackin Dak is not SPECIAL.. he was offered some nice deals..

He himself doesnt have deal because of his agent and his ego.. thats a fact! they did not low ball the guy, thats FACT!
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Dallas is the king of the 1 year contract now. Quinn should still be here. Next year it will be Hicks. I am all for fiscal discipline but this team is built to win now. I truly hope they don’t have to replace Dak. That great OL and Zeke’s careers will have been wasted.

I meant Clinton Dix not Hicks so you loud mouths can relax.
 

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good grief gregg, you would have been crying they overspent on dak if they paid him what he wants. it so easy to see in every one of your posts you hate Jerry and his family. sheesh
 

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If this portrayal of events is true then Stephen Jones is even dumber than I thought. Who offers $110 million guaranteed to someone they don't want? :muttley:

Then again, maybe it's this portrayal of events that doesn't make sense?
I know your upset because your boy won’t be here after this season but it’s gonna be ok. If not, you can follow him to the next team he doesn’t take to a SB.
 

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I know your upset because your boy won’t be here after this season but it’s gonna be ok. If not, you can follow him to the next team he doesn’t take to a SB.
"dak's getting signed and if you don't like it you can find another team" lmao.. :lmao: that didn't work out too good did it.
 

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"dak's getting signed and if you don't like it you can find another team" lmao.. :lmao: that didn't work out too good did it.
HE actually did get signed lol.....you guys are changing your stance now but initially when we signed Dalton some of you were saying we'd rescind the tag lol.
 

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HE actually did get signed lol.....you guys are changing your stance now but initially when we signed Dalton some of you were saying we'd rescind the tag lol.
not changing crap, he didn't get that multi-year deal you guys were bragging about

#getdakofftheteam
 
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