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I haven’t seen Dak was officially offered 35. I saw possibly 33-35. I heard Dak would have taken 37 which would have been top dollar. If you aren’t counting Mahommes.
Russell Wilson money should’ve been more than sufficient. Wilson has taken his team to two Super Bowls and has won a title. He would’ve been two for two had his coaching staff not gone braindead on the goal line call. Dak is very good and I want him signed, but there’s no way he should be paid more than Wilson. He hasn’t earned it.
 

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Every year he brags about all the cap space, and then spends ZERO $$$ in Free Agency....been saying for years that he treats FA money as if its directly taking inheritance out of his pocket. He is a joke!!!
 

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Russell Wilson money should’ve been more than sufficient. Wilson has taken his team to two Super Bowls and has won a title. He would’ve been two for two had his coaching staff not gone braindead on the goal line call. Dak is very good and I want him signed, but there’s no way he should be paid more than Wilson. He hasn’t earned it.
Should of by whose standards?

We know every year QB’s raise the bar. Who thought last year Russell deserved to be the top paid. Next year it will be Jackson or Watson.

2 or 3 years ago it was Stafford highest paid. It changes almost every year. It’s determined by the market.
 

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Every year he brags about all the cap space, and then spends ZERO $$$ in Free Agency....been saying for years that he treats FA money as if its directly taking inheritance out of his pocket. He is a joke!!!
So, another that doesn’t pay attention and has no clue how the cap works. LOL.
 

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Every year he brags about all the cap space, and then spends ZERO $$$ in Free Agency....been saying for years that he treats FA money as if its directly taking inheritance out of his pocket. He is a joke!!!
Right

I thought we had been saving all of this Cap space to sign our stars. Apparently not all of them. We decided to draw our line in the sand with our franchise QB. Brilliant . Lol
 

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Should of by whose standards?

We know every year QB’s raise the bar. Who thought last year Russell deserved to the top paid. Next year it will be Jackson or Watson.

2 or 3 years ago it was Stafford highest paid. It changes almost every year. It’s determined by the market.

I’ve had this discussion before. Just because player X gets a certain amount of $ doesn’t mean the next one should get more. That’s a completely stupid way to run a business. It’s economic idiocy. Talent, upside, accomplishments, team circumstances, etc. play a part. Derrick Henry just signed a new contract that pays about $3 mil less per year than Zeke got. If the next guy always gets more (which is utterly stupid) why is this? Because Elliott is the better back, is more versatile, and has accomplished more. End of story.
 

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I’ve had this discussion before. Just because player X gets a certain amount of $ doesn’t mean the next one should get more. That’s a completely stupid way to run a business. It’s economic idiocy. Talent, upside, accomplishments, team circumstances, etc. play a part. Derrick Henry just signed a new contract that pays about $3 mil less per year than Zeke got. If the next guy always gets more (which is utterly stupid) why is this? Because Elliott is the better back, is more versatile, and has accomplished more. End of story.
It’s not always determined by talent level. There’s always exception determined by need and market.

Did you think Stafford was best QB in 2017?

It’s very common to overpay to sign your guy.

Wasn’t Romo top paid one year he signed a new deal. Who thought he was best in the league at the time?

https://www.nfl.com/news/tony-romo-signs-108m-contract-with-dallas-cowboys-0ap1000000155364
 
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It’s not always determined by talent level. There’s always exception determined by need and market.

Did you think Stafford was best QB in 2017?

It’s very common to overpay to sign your guy.

Wasn’t Romo top paid one year he signed a new deal. Who thought he was best in the league at the time?
No, and Dak isn’t the best now either. He got an extremely fair and competitive offer. He turned it down. He might regret it in the end. Just because other teams make stupid decisions doesn’t mean all should.

The uncertainty regarding revenue and the cap also has to be considered. Cap hell isn’t a good place to be.
 

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No, and Dak isn’t the best now either. He got an extremely fair and competitive offer. He turned it down. He might regret it in the end. Just because other teams make stupid decisions doesn’t mean all should.
If we want our QB we do. If not then be prepared to move on and suffer the potential consequences. That’s the brutal business of the NFL.
 
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Do you base your skepticism upon your vast knowledge of being an old man?
What skepticism? I gave Stephen a compliment. What makes you think you come across as an englishman. Did you read a Shakespeare sonnet?
 

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Over paying your franchise QB is bad business but it’s the nature of the beast cause without one you’re scrambling to build a team without one while looking and expending assets to find your next one.

If Dak walks how much will we waste and spend looking for another QB. Not to mention wasting years and money on our current supporting cast without a franchise QB.

There’s two types of teams. With a franchise QB or looking for one with very rare exception with a generational type defense. Even then they have solid QB’s.
 

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If we want our QB we do. If not then be prepared to move on and suffer the potential consequences. That’s the business of the NFL.
That’s exactly right. That is the NFL. You do the best you can to make a prudent decision and if it doesn’t work out, you move on. The Cowboys will be fine one way or another.
 

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That’s exactly right. That is the NFL. You do the best you can to make a prudent decision and if it doesn’t work out, you move on. The Cowboys will be fine one way or another.
That’s still to be determined and why all of the criticism when you have one but too stubborn or stupid to get him signed.
 

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It’s not always determined by talent level. There’s always exception determined by need and market.

Did you think Stafford was best QB in 2017?

It’s very common to overpay to sign your guy.

Wasn’t Romo top paid one year he signed a new deal. Who thought he was best in the league at the time?

https://www.nfl.com/news/tony-romo-signs-108m-contract-with-dallas-cowboys-0ap1000000155364

By the way, how has that Stafford signing worked out for Detroit? Made them into a powerhouse, didn’t he! Your example makes my case that the next guy shouldn’t get paid more than everybody before him just because he’s the next guy? Again, that’s a lunatic way to do business.
 

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If we had to pick between paying Dak, Zeke, Cooper or Dlaw would we all agree on not paying Dak?

We’ll just put everything on hold until we find another QB.
 

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That’s still to be determined and why all of the criticism when you have one but too stubborn or stupid to get him signed.
Simple. Do not overpay and hurt the team in the long run. For the last time, it’s not remotely like the FO lowballed Dak. It was a great offer. Just because he didn’t take it doesn’t change that fact.
 

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If we had to pick between paying Dak, Zeke, Cooper or Dlaw would we all agree on not paying Dak?

We’ll just put everything on hold until we find another QB.
You’re not comparing apples to apples. QB contracts have gotten out of control and a mistake can destroy a team for several years.
 

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By the way, how has that Stanford signing worked out for Detroit? Made them into a powerhouse, didn’t he! Your example makes my case that the next guy shouldn’t get paid more than everybody before him just because he’s the next guy? Again, that’s a lunatic way to do business.
It doesn’t matter. Without a franchise QB you got nothing. It made them more than they would have had without him,

Professional sports is a lunatic way of doing business. It’s really funny how so many fans love the game but hate the business side of it.

They forget it’s an entertainment business and QB’s are the star of the show while being the most critical part. And they get paid crazy money much like the lead actor in a blockbuster film or frontman in a band.
 
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Simple. Do not overpay and hurt the team in the long run. For the last time, it’s not remotely like the FO lowballed Dak. It was a great offer. Just because he didn’t take it doesn’t change that fact.
I understand but it didn’t get the job done . So, who cares.

We can pound our chest until hell freezes over it was a fair offer but we didn’t get our franchise qb signed.
 
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