Two main reasons why Dallas needs to secure Dak long term

TwoDeep3

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There are some that would disagree with you about the purpose of playing the game, it has become more entertainment than football.

I accept it because I have no choice on something totally out of my control. You cannot accept it, which of us is frustrated. Some are holding out that we are not fans like CLE,
DET and WAS but that is exactly what we are. Your standards of acceptance have nothing to do with anymore than mine.

I accepted what this team was and is a long time ago and know that the only thing that changes that is luck.

Then why watch?
 

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I'm strongly on the "Don't pay Dak" bandwagon but if the Cowboys get a SB and then have to eat a massive contract for 4 years and cut the rest of the good players in preparation for a rebuild, I would gladly take it.

I also have to note that I think the team is pretty good and plays an easy schedule. I think a mediocre QB could get them to the playoffs. If they actually miss the playoffs, that means the team surrounding Dak isn't that good. #1 is bad for a bunch of reasons.

#2 easily.
if we win a Super Bowl, why would we sacrifice the team afterwards for his contract? Are we expected to be like every other team that makes the Super Bowl then vanishes for 5-10 years or do we want multiple championships?
 

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get the greedy ******* off our team.
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Let me ask this question:

If you had to choose between

1. Dak being traded or released after this 2020 season in which the Cowboys didn't make the playoffs

or

2. The Cowboys win the Super Bowl and then sign Dak to a 4 year 180 million dollar contract, 120 million guaranteed.

You must select one of these choices only. The point of this exercise is to determine priorities. My first assumption would be that everyone select 1 as their choice, just as I do. However.....it's a strange world.


tough choice but i want a SB and overpaying Dak would be a sour but acceptable move given 120 guaranteed he could be cut after three years and it be 40per and not pay the piper year 4..

im saying 2 and it hurts but its worth it.. no draft pick is guaranteed to be either or get us to a SB..thats why

a bird in the hand is better then 2 in the bush, you take it!!
 

blueblood70

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I'm strongly on the "Don't pay Dak" bandwagon but if the Cowboys get a SB and then have to eat a massive contract for 4 years and cut the rest of the good players in preparation for a rebuild, I would gladly take it.

I also have to note that I think the team is pretty good and plays an easy schedule. I think a mediocre QB could get them to the playoffs. If they actually miss the playoffs, that means the team surrounding Dak isn't that good. #1 is bad for a bunch of reasons.

#2 easily.
true but cut him in 3 and thats 40 per and not pay the bloated last year..i can live with that
 

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tough choice but i want a SB and overpaying Dak would be a sour but acceptable move given 120 guaranteed he could be cut after three years and it be 40per and not pay the piper year 4..

im saying 2 and it hurts but its worth it.. no draft pick is guaranteed to be either or get us to a SB..thats why

a bird in the hand is better then 2 in the bush, you take it!!
Lol... it hurts.
 

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the elation of shooting the monkey off our Backs with a money launcher and finally winning anther SB, ill take the hurt so good moment..:flagwave::dance::rolleyes:
And the truth is....didn't Jerry do that for the Cowboys 3rd Super Bowl in 1995? At least that was the story line. If the Cowboys didn't pay Deion the amigo money, then Jerry and Coach #501 doesn't get that Super Bowl.
 

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1. Solidify the position

2. Allocate most if not all draft picks towards defense in the 2021 draft. We need to build a young fast and talented defense.

Letting Dak walk would more than likely mean Dallas is using their 1st round pick in 2021 and could very well have to trade multiple premium picks to move up and get the qb they want.

Yes, Dallas would have 35 million+ of extra cap space for the next couple of seasons, but I'd rather keep Dak at a rate the team can afford and go draft a defense.

1 resaon against him: NO!
 

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if we win a Super Bowl, why would we sacrifice the team afterwards for his contract? Are we expected to be like every other team that makes the Super Bowl then vanishes for 5-10 years or do we want multiple championships?

There was an either / or question asked that didn't include your options. I happen to agree that gutting the team to keep the QB is a fool's errand.
 

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I don't understand this position of "gutting the team".

Salary caps will continue to rise, including next season. The NFL is not going to cut the cap to the point were every team is "gutted". By cutting so much talent, the product is not only weaker at a time when they nees to lure fans back, it is the incentive for a new league to emerge and grab that jettisoned talent.

A strict policy of not supplementing a much lower salary cap could be the catalyst for the return of the XFL. We don't want that.
 

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if we win a Super Bowl, why would we sacrifice the team afterwards for his contract? Are we expected to be like every other team that makes the Super Bowl then vanishes for 5-10 years or do we want multiple championships?

Yep, if we win we.ve found the winning formula, meaning we wont have to spend increased CAP in free agency and improvements can be established via the draft.
 

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1. Solidify the position

2. Allocate most if not all draft picks towards defense in the 2021 draft. We need to build a young fast and talented defense.

Letting Dak walk would more than likely mean Dallas is using their 1st round pick in 2021 and could very well have to trade multiple premium picks to move up and get the qb they want.

Yes, Dallas would have 35 million+ of extra cap space for the next couple of seasons, but I'd rather keep Dak at a rate the team can afford and go draft a defense.

The only issue with the idea of building a talented defense through the draft is that it sounds good but just like the "oh, just draft a QB" argument, relying on the draft doesnt always work ....AND we'll be lucky to get two starters from each draft and that'll take possibly two years for them to get to the NFL level.

So I disagree with your need to lockup a QB....rather, lets see what we have in 2020 (under MM).
 

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And the truth is....didn't Jerry do that for the Cowboys 3rd Super Bowl in 1995? At least that was the story line. If the Cowboys didn't pay Deion the amigo money, then Jerry and Coach #501 doesn't get that Super Bowl.
different era

cap and plan b FA things weren't exactly the same..so many restrictions now to force parity on the NFL

what makes it different is you actually pay after you receive the reward, ie try before you buy..he would be happy to pay after he gets his trophy vs risking paying and getting a lemon lol..
 

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Let me ask this question:

If you had to choose between

1. Dak being traded or released after this 2020 season in which the Cowboys didn't make the playoffs

or

2. The Cowboys win the Super Bowl and then sign Dak to a 4 year 180 million dollar contract, 120 million guaranteed.

You must select one of these choices only. The point of this exercise is to determine priorities. My first assumption would be that everyone select 1 as their choice, just as I do. However.....it's a strange world.
:huh:
 

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In the 2016 division playoff game against the Packers, the Cowboys got behind by 18 points. With 35 seconds left in the 4th quarter the game was tied after Dak threw 3 TD passes.
Sad part is GB had no business being in the game. We should have thrashed them like Atlanta did the next week.
Your summary is correct in a sense but misleading. Dak also lead the drives ending in punts on our second & third possessions. GB scored after each of those & lead 21-3. He also threw a horrible interception midway thru the 3rd qtr with the ball at the GB 19. To balance the scales you can't just give him credit for the good drives.
In a game that Dallas had the edge or was even in majority of the statistics, the one statistic that played a large part in defeat was 6-50 penalties compared to 3-22.
 

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1. Solidify the position

2. Allocate most if not all draft picks towards defense in the 2021 draft. We need to build a young fast and talented defense.

Letting Dak walk would more than likely mean Dallas is using their 1st round pick in 2021 and could very well have to trade multiple premium picks to move up and get the qb they want.

Yes, Dallas would have 35 million+ of extra cap space for the next couple of seasons, but I'd rather keep Dak at a rate the team can afford and go draft a defense.

There a couple of big reason, but one HUGE reason:

1. Top 10 QB's in their prime are too tough to find. Could be another 10 years before we draft a develop one. Could be longer.

Then the other obvious ones:

2. He is really good
3. Great leader
4. He has earned it
5. We have no one better or any young promising QB's
 
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