Colin. The receivers are not the issue

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khiladi

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It’s amazing to me that people blame the coaching on Dak, when Linehan and Moore did everything to tailor the offense to him. Dallas operates pretty much exclusively out of shotgun or a play-action 1 to 3 step drop and basically eliminated the 5 to 7 step drop because of how bad Dak’s footwork is. And this is with the Coryell. 30 percent of Dak’s passing yardage came off play action the majority of the season and they have been top five in usage since he set foot in the league and Garrett rarely used play action. They were 6th by the end of last season, most likely because they were padding stats in blowouts.

People act as if Dak was limited by the play callers and the play callers were Not limited by Dak.

https://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/20...lling-snap-analysis-2019-season-dak-prescott/

Despite Dallas’s success using play-action passes, it is hard to conceive of an offensive coordinator who wouldn’t like the ability to call plays based on a traditional three-step, five-step or seven-step drop. It is also hard to believe Moore would only call 30 of these types of plays out of 677 passes if everyone was comfortable Prescott could effectively execute a traditional three, five, or seven-step drop.
 

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Was Dak not being known as a practice player and not being able to hit wide open WRs for four years the fault of the coaches. How can anybody argue that his practice ability doesn’t translate on the field when he’s leaving YAC all day and he’s traditionally been awful against zone coverages. In 2018, it took him one week to find the end zone in training camp. That’s the fault of coaching...

Please.. for three yards Dak doesn’t practice well and the excuses are that he ‘brings it to the field’ (questionable when one of his star players is out), but ironic that Dak calls out his teammates last year for allegedly not practicing hard, when this dude takes years to not throw duds to wide open WRs in practices.

These myths about coaches limiting him need to die. So many excuses for their mediocre QB, when the last four years has been nothing but tailoring to his limitations, just like they did with Garrett and his ‘training’. So many excuses for a guy that walked into an all pro line and a Running game netting over five yards a carry on first down and completely simplified offense tailored by Linehan, where Beasley was running around all day in single coverage.

https://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/2019/07/29/dallas-cowboys-dak-prescott-training-camp-2019-accuracy/
 

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Carr is way better than Dak. Put Dak on the Raiders and watch him truly blossom.
I don’t know one player list, general manager list, or talking head listthat would agree with you. More importantly Amari would pick Dak.
 

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I don’t know one player list, general manager list, or talking head listthat would agree with you. More importantly Amari would pick Dak.

Put Carr behind that offensive line and RG, with all the man coverage Dak sees, that’s very disputable. We’ve seen Dak when only one of the following, Smith, Zeke or Cooper are out and he’s downright awful.

Carr threw for over 4000 yards with a washed up Nelson and Cook as his TE last year in 2018. He threw over 70% last year and over 4000 yards with a revolving door of WRs that were injured. And now they started getting consistency at OL and are ranked highly.

Dudes had three different HCs and multiple OCs, nothing like the stability Dak walked into.
 

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Put Carr behind that offensive line and RG, with all the man coverage Dak sees, that’s very disputable. We’ve seen Dak when only one of the following, Smith, Zeke or Cooper are out and he’s downright awful.

Carr threw for over 4000 yards with a washed up Nelson and Cook as his TE last year in 2018. He threw over 70% last year and over 4000 yards with a revolving door of WRs that were injured. And now they started getting consistency at OL and are ranked highly.

Dudes had three different HCs and multiple OCs, nothing like the stability Dak walked into.
Yeah Carr did all that and Gruden is about to replace him with Mariota. Carr is a bum just like your boy Romo.
 

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Yeah Carr did all that and Gruden is about to replace him with Mariota. Carr is a bum just like your boy Romo.
Carr and Romo were paid, Dak was not


Carr and Romo were MVP candidates, Dak was not

Carr has been a pro bowler 3 times, Dak twice


Dak has had a better offensive line and skill position players than Carr


Dak is the bum here buddy
 

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Let's be clear here though
Colin says that we don't know yet if these stats can be applied to Dak or Garrett.
This was his point.
He said we'll know in December.

I think we can also look at Daniel Jones' progression and get some answers as well. But that's a side note. Can't compare because they don't have remotely near the line of WRs that we have...but it'll be interesting.

Geez never fails to see the haters hate or the homers homer around these parts. New season, dak has shown that he can improve his game greatly in the past, so give the man a chance. Wish there were more rational fans like you around here :)
 

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This is what you get from someone way too proud of the C- he got in college for "Statistics for Journalism Majors"

Okay, Colin, what is each team's record in games against playoff teams these past three seasons? How does the Cowboys rank among them?

http://pfref.com/tiny/6W6MD

Cowboys, and therefore Dak, ranked 13th among all teams versus playoff teams from 2017-2019 at 33%. Only two teams in the league are above 50%

Next..........
 

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See sig. Been there for months.

"There are 5 NFL starting QBs with winning records vs winning teams:
Brady, Wilson, Mahomes, Garropolo, and Roethlisberger."

Don't know what their record is against playoff teams but it's an interesting stat.
 

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This past season was the first time he hit 30 TDs.. He can thank NYG and Wsh for that.

He’s not that great.. Solid player.
That’s baloney. Everyone said he couldn’t throw the deep ball and then he did. Every time someone says he sucks he proves them wrong. When he gives us a ring. What are you going to say then . Not everybody was playing because of the virus. I already know it’s going to happen
 

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It's not just that..

Dak doesn't perform well in those games.

The QB has to elevate the team at some point. Especially when they get paid like they are elite.

Dak gets elevated by those around him. That is the conundrum.

Hey Catch, roll out the stats of the rest of the QB's, and let's compare. What Colin is saying can be said for many others in the league.
 

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Put Carr behind that offensive line and RG, with all the man coverage Dak sees, that’s very disputable. We’ve seen Dak when only one of the following, Smith, Zeke or Cooper are out and he’s downright awful.

Carr threw for over 4000 yards with a washed up Nelson and Cook as his TE last year in 2018. He threw over 70% last year and over 4000 yards with a revolving door of WRs that were injured. And now they started getting consistency at OL and are ranked highly.

Dudes had three different HCs and multiple OCs, nothing like the stability Dak walked into.

Yes, you and others continually spout the same garbage. Any QB but Dak, would be great in Dallas. It is asinine to compare any QB, that does not play under the exact same criteria.
 
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