How do we not look at Logan Ryan for the Safety position?

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The man is a FA, had 113 tackles, 4 forced fumbles and 4 INT's as a CB.

He says he's a safety first and his stats and initiative when it comes to tackling shows up.

https://www.nfl.com/news/logan-ryan-safety-not-cornerback-free-agent

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RyanLo00.htm

We don't have to give up any draft picks, the man has 2 SB rings and has been sitting out there until now.

Let's bring this guy in for a look.
I wasn't really aware of him. I wonder why other teams haven't signed him yet? Looking at his stats it's amazing he didn't make the Pro Bowl last year. He also had 4.5 sacks and 18 passes defended on top of the other stats you mentioned.

It may be his asking price, or it may be that teams are a little reluctant with the current uncertainty of the season hanging over their heads.
 

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So true -- Stephen isn't likely to sign off on an outlay of $10 mil when we're already in poor cap shape. He'll just walk away! ;)
Actually it’s never was with this franchise my cowboy brother. Tell me one player we didn’t go after that we Wanted. I can’t remember any because of the.
 

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Last I heard he wants 10+ million per year. That's getting close to Earl Thomas money. I would prefer we spend that on a RDE.
Pretty glad they didn't sign Earl Thomas last year. I've been catching the string of Ravens games they've been replaying on NFL network and that guy is either out of position or just getting burned. He's invisible most of the time. I think father time has caught up to ol' Earl.
 

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So true -- Stephen isn't likely to sign off on an outlay of $10 mil when we're already in poor cap shape. He'll just walk away! ;)
I totally disagree. If he wanted the player he would get the player. It’s the fans that make it about the money
 

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No it’s actually not. And it never has been for this franchise. We always manipulated it
I think what you may not be considering is that while it's true we have manipulated things at times, that doesn't mean it can always be done, or that it is always desirable, or that the ability to do it is unlimited.
 

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No it’s actually not. And it never has been for this franchise. We always manipulated it
Yes, it is, and has been several times. Having to manipulate the cap actually proves my point. If it wasn't an issue, we wouldn't have to manipulate it.
 

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I think what you may not be considering is that while it's true we have manipulated things at times, that doesn't mean it can always be done, or that it is always desirable, or that the ability to do it is unlimited.
I agree. It can’t always be done. But again we’ve never had an issue. When we wanted to get it done. That’s the only point I’m making
 

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Yes, it is, and has been several times. Having to manipulate the cap actually proves my point. If it wasn't an issue, we wouldn't have to manipulate it.
Tell me one player the franchise didn’t go after because of the salary cap. Not the fans the franchise
 

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Yes, it is, and has been several times. Having to manipulate the cap actually proves my point. If it wasn't an issue, we wouldn't have to manipulate it.
Yes we manipulate the For what we want. Which means we never want.
 

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Yes, it is, and has been several times. Having to manipulate the cap actually proves my point. If it wasn't an issue, we wouldn't have to manipulate it.
I’m not talking opinion I’m making an actual factual statement. This franchise has never not signed a player that they wanted.
 

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If we want to go get the best safety in the league we would go and do it. Just like Prescott if you want to give him a zillion dollars we would do it. Salary cap is nothing other than a discussion point for the fans. Franchises always find away. What do you think they employ dozens of mathematics, Accountants.
 

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Yes, it is, and has been several times. Having to manipulate the cap actually proves my point. If it wasn't an issue, we wouldn't have to manipulate it.
Anyways be good be safe my cowboy family .Can’t wait for football
 

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I agree. It can’t always be done. But again we’ve never had an issue. When we wanted to get it done. That’s the only point I’m making
I don't know that we can say we've never had an issue because we wouldn't necessarily even know if there are situations where we choose not to pursue a player we would like to have because of cap concerns. For example, if salary cap is a concern with Logan Ryan there won't be a press conference saying so, the team just won't pursue him, and the fans will never know salary cap was the reason.
 

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I totally disagree. If he wanted the player he would get the player. It’s the fans that make it about the money

I heard you the first time, sir -- that may have been true with Jerry but with Stephen, as soon as he hears the amount, it's over. There's a world of a big difference between those two. One will spend like there's no tomorrow and with the other, tomorrow's already here if he doesn't like the amount.
 

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I know everyone wants a safety. But, no one was talking about Logan Ryan as a safety until this article came out. No one has been interested in Logan Ryan at his asking price for a reason. He's only now a "safety" because his agent told everyone he is, and NO, he is not cutting his asking price in half. I'm sorry, but you can't just make stuff up. Logan Ryan is NOT worth 10m per year, especially not as a safety. That's not how this works.

Who is making anything up and who is saying he is willing to cut his asking price in half?

Also, where does it say he won't play for anything less than $10 million per season as a safety?

I am only suggesting we take a look at the option. From there you see if there is a possible contract opportunity, if there is a possible fit within our team.
 

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Tell me one player the franchise didn’t go after because of the salary cap. Not the fans the franchise
How would anyone know if the team doesn't go after a player because of salary cap concerns? The Cowboys (or any team) don't call press conferences to talk about players they don't pursue, or to announce why they don't pursue certain free agents. Obviosuly the Cowboys would like to have every elite free agent that becomes available if it is an upgrade, but just as obviously the salary cap prohibits that.
 

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Clowney won't sign for that but Griffen probably would. I think we're staying away from Griffen because of the drinking problems he's reportedly had. We already had Smith and Gregory (might not even get re-instated) so we're overloaded on those types at that specific position.

If Clowney would play for that I would rather put the money there but I highly doubt he would. We were in the Jamal Adams sweepstakes so we definitely have interest in proven talent for the position and if we're going to have the cap space I prefer to use it on a position of need like safety.

Woods would be great inexpensive depth at both safety spots. But if either of our current starters at the position get hurt we are looking at Donavon Wilson and Darian Thompson.
I read somewhere the griffen has mental issues....if drinking or mental issues are true, that explains why he is on the market.

I wonder same thing about logan. if he is that good, then somebody would sign him. I mean Byron Jones got a deal.....so what's with Logan? what's the issue?
 
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