Twitter: Is Dez done?

[Aerolithe_Lion]

And what? Your team is stuck with Jeffery.

They hate him. He hates them. And they're stuck. Howie's cap management and reworking deals screwed them.

You're the last person who should be trying to point out issues with other teams' receivers.

Every single thing about the contracts is superior for Alshon than Dez.

Stats for Both Players on their contracts:

AAV:
Alshon - $13m
Dez - $16m

Games in 3 years:
Alshon - 39
Dez - 38

Receptions:
Alshon - 165
Dez - 150

YPG:
Alshon - 54.4
Dez - 53.6

TD per game:
Alshon - 0.513
Dez - 0.447

Playoff Seasons:
Alshon - 3
Dez - 1

On the contrary, I believe I'm the perfect person to comment on this, because these contract situations have an almost perfect comparison. Dez's contract was definitively worse than Alshon's. Cost more for less production, less availability, and less team success.

 

[Jake]

Dak shortened his career.

One of the top receivers in the league with Romo.

Look at his last 3 years with Romo and his years with Dak.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BryaDe01.htm

Dez last played in a game in 2017.

Are NFL teams so stupid they can't see what you're suggesting, that Dez would be fine as long as Dak isn't around?

Dez shortened his own career. He got by on athleticism rather than precision. Once the athleticism began to wane he had nothing to fall back on.

 

[gjkoeppen]

Dez been grinding. I've been seeing his workout videos. Problem with Dez is he definitely doesn't have the athleticism now and I don't know if he's improved his technique and route running enough to compensate for the loss of speed and explosiveness.

You obviously haven't figured out that those videos are choreographed for Bryant to always have 2 steps on the defender. He's never been a good route runner but now he is at least in those videos.
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[Blackspider214]

I hope to see him back.

As long as he isn't playing for Dallas.

 

[Diehardblues]

Dez last played in a game in 2017.

Are NFL teams so stupid they can't see what you're suggesting, that Dez would be fine as long as Dak isn't around?

Dez shortened his own career. He got by on athleticism rather than precision. Once the athleticism began to wane he had nothing to fall back on.

I didn’t say Dez wasn’t washed up now. I’m sure his Achilles injury was devastating . Damaged goods now.

But we released him cause his production with Dak didn’t measure up to the contract we dished out based on his production with Romo.

 

[gjkoeppen]

“Three years later, NFL decision-makers are in agreement that Dez Bryant did catch it, and they appear ready to take the steps necessary to harmonize the rulebook.

According to Kevin Seifert of ESPN, the NFL competition committee is working to overhaul the “going to the ground” part of the league’s broken catch rule, with the unanimous belief among committee members that plays like Bryant’s overruled catch against the Green Bay Packers during the NFC playoffs should have been ruled complete.”

https://www.___GET_REAL_URL___/s/pa...lly-caught-it-the-nfl-says-3-years-later/amp/

They reviewed a couple other catches they agreed the NFL messed up on, Jesse James and Calvins, but regardless, IMO, it’s unfair to sum up Dezs career here with that play.

I don't. I sum up his career as leading the league in drops, a problem in the locker room and sidelines, a poor route runner and being a one trick pony who sat in 2018 until after week 9 because the saints finally were desperate enough after losing a couple receivers to injury gave him a shot.
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[OmerV]

“Three years later, NFL decision-makers are in agreement that Dez Bryant did catch it, and they appear ready to take the steps necessary to harmonize the rulebook.

According to Kevin Seifert of ESPN, the NFL competition committee is working to overhaul the “going to the ground” part of the league’s broken catch rule, with the unanimous belief among committee members that plays like Bryant’s overruled catch against the Green Bay Packers during the NFC playoffs should have been ruled complete.”

https://www.___GET_REAL_URL___/s/pa...lly-caught-it-the-nfl-says-3-years-later/amp/

They reviewed a couple other catches they agreed the NFL messed up on, Jesse James and Calvins, but regardless, IMO, it’s unfair to sum up Dezs career here with that play.

This article really just says just says "it appears" the NFL believes it was a catch, but I think what the competition committee has actually said is that plays like that "should" be completions, so they made the rule read where they will be completions going forward. I think the media chooses to spin it as if the league said the play was ruled incorrectly by the officials because playing it that way grabs the attention of the reader, but I don't think the NFL ever said that.

John Mara, the New York Giants owner and a NFL competition committee member, said the league unanimously agreed on a new catch rule and that Dez Bryant’s grab should be ruled a completion in the future.

It doesn’t change anything from the past, but the controversial play ultimately made NFL officials change its rules.

https://fanbuzz.com/nfl/dez-bryant-catch/

“I think where we are unanimous [are] plays like the Dez Bryant play in Green Bay, going to the ground, the Calvin Johnson play from a couple of years ago,” Mara told ESPN. “I think all of us agree that those should be completions. So let’s write the language to make them completions.”

https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-compet...ez-bryants-catch-lambeau-catch-220635523.html

 

[Diehardblues]

“Three years later, NFL decision-makers are in agreement that Dez Bryant did catch it, and they appear ready to take the steps necessary to harmonize the rulebook.

According to Kevin Seifert of ESPN, the NFL competition committee is working to overhaul the “going to the ground” part of the league’s broken catch rule, with the unanimous belief among committee members that plays like Bryant’s overruled catch against the Green Bay Packers during the NFC playoffs should have been ruled complete.”

https://www.___GET_REAL_URL___/s/pa...lly-caught-it-the-nfl-says-3-years-later/amp/

They reviewed a couple other catches they agreed the NFL messed up on, Jesse James and Calvins, but regardless, IMO, it’s unfair to sum up Dezs career here with that play.

Imagine how different this era would have looked if that was deemed a catch and we go on to championship game.

It effects Romo’s career moving forward, Garrett’s and probably Dez too.

Not to mention fans perception of all.

 

[Stash]

Every single thing about the contracts is superior for Alshon than Dez.

Stats for Both Players on their contracts:

AAV:
Alshon - $13m
Dez - $16m

Games in 3 years:
Alshon - 39
Dez - 38

Receptions:
Alshon - 165
Dez - 150

YPG:
Alshon - 54.4
Dez - 53.6

TD per game:
Alshon - 0.513
Dez - 0.447

Playoff Seasons:
Alshon - 3
Dez - 1

On the contrary, I believe I'm the perfect person to comment on this, because these contract situations have an almost perfect comparison. Dez's contract was definitively worse than Alshon's. Cost more for less production, less availability, and less team success.

Good numbers, I will confess. However, the contract extension with Jeffery came in December of 2017, nearly at the end of that season. So I think that including that year in the comparison is inaccurate. To say nothing of the fact that Roseman screwed up by reworking that deal in 2019 and getting your team in deep with a player that nobody wants there, most of all him. I notice that has yet to be addressed by you.

 

[DenCWBY]

Romo should have thrown the ball to a wide open beasley. Dez has never been arrested or in legal trouble. Also when seen yelling on the sidelines it was positive things he was saying. We found this out after the mic'd up came out. But because it was "dez" you believed the media.

I never said he was arrested and he was in legal trouble with the stunt with his mother but JJ helped him through that. I really don't even count that or his yelling on the sidelines as a negative. He was losing focus with drops and routes and DB's were getting into his head. He became more of a liability in the end and the frikin media made him into their circus act on Sundays. It was sad and some of it was self induced esp. later on twitter.

 

[SportsGuru80]

I would not say he is done with the NFL, someone will need a veteran WR.

 

[DCwarrior]

Stick a fork in him!

 

[Stash]

Wait, are you suggesting that because Philly has kept Jeffrey around that somehow makes it better? Hahahaha.

The big reason he's still in Philly is because the contract was so bad in terms of cutting him and no one wanted to trade for him, so Howie is stuck and the organization is just trying to put on a happy face now that all is well.

And that's why he's avoiding addressing that key aspect of the argument.

The truth hurts.

 

[Cover 2]

No nearly as bad as this one:

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles/alshon-jeffery-9855/

I always love getting a laugh at the Eagles expense

 

[Hennessy_King]

Hah. I love the consistency. Not sure if you think the ranting and raving on the sidelines qualify for attitude. My point was the talent today is not worth that hassle.

Gotta love the misinformation. If you heard his "rant" on mic'd up it was far from a rant.

 

[Stash]

I always love getting a laugh at the Eagles expense

Especially when they open their mouth without thinking it through.

 

[Whyjerry]

Gotta love the misinformation. If you heard his "rant" on mic'd up it was far from a rant.

For the record I would give him a look. I do think the multiple sideline shows and roasting coaches and players out the door, fair or not, hurt him.

 

[DallasDW00ds0n]

This article really just says just says "it appears" the NFL believes it was a catch, but I think what the competition committee has actually said is that plays like that "should" be completions, so they made the rule read where they will be completions going forward. I think the media chooses to spin it as if the league said the play was ruled incorrectly by the officials because playing it that way grabs the attention of the reader, but I don't think the NFL ever said that.

John Mara, the New York Giants owner and a NFL competition committee member, said the league unanimously agreed on a new catch rule and that Dez Bryant’s grab should be ruled a completion in the future.

It doesn’t change anything from the past, but the controversial play ultimately made NFL officials change its rules.

https://fanbuzz.com/nfl/dez-bryant-catch/

“I think where we are unanimous [are] plays like the Dez Bryant play in Green Bay, going to the ground, the Calvin Johnson play from a couple of years ago,” Mara told ESPN. “I think all of us agree that those should be completions. So let’s write the language to make them completions.”

https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-compet...ez-bryants-catch-lambeau-catch-220635523.html

Oh they definitely stood by that the refs seemingly called it correctly at that time but all agreed now that it would indeed have been a catch.

 

[Hennessy_King]

I never said he was arrested and he was in legal trouble with the stunt with his mother but JJ helped him through that. I really don't even count that or his yelling on the sidelines as a negative. He was losing focus with drops and routes and DB's were getting into his head. He became more of a liability in the end and the frikin media made him into their circus act on Sundays. It was sad and some of it was self induced esp. later on twitter.

You just said he was in trouble on and off the field? Now the infamous back pedal.

 

[Hennessy_King]

You just answered the OP perfectly.

Is Dez done? Yes. I've been saying it for months.