Chiefs ban headdresses at Arrowhead Stadium as part of new policies

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I didnt call you names, I critiqued your generalization, but somehow your argument now is to insult me and say you spoke truth? When exactly did this happen in your last response?

you're wasting your time. There are people out there who are just ethically superior. We can never measure up to their highest of moral character. If you try and engage in discussion, they will immediately slap you down while reminding of just how ignorant and lacking in virtue you are. We lose before the discussion even begins - that's how it works.
 

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You"re assuming its offensive, the problem starts with you and anyone that thinks a race is "one think". Somehow some of you people are for things that go 100% against what you preach.

One think?

So you are saying because not every Native person is offended, it isn't offensive.

Please stop and reflect on your ignorance.
 

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One think?

So you are saying because not every Native person is offended, it isn't offensive.

Please stop and reflect on your ignorance.
What if I told you most weren't offended. Now go take your ignorance to a different thread.
 

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What if I told you that you can't just say crap without any real proof?
There's something special about petty people, and it takes zero effort to find some of these stats. And what's even more sad is that these petty people jump to the pc offended side first without any factual basis to take that side. People want to argue for the pc side when they're either ignorant to or choose to ignore the origins of the name and logo. And with the chiefs it just takes this to a whole new level. People should be proud of this representation.

Obviously something(s) conditioned certain people to be offended, the question is will people take the time to educate themselves or is this a game of double down and never admitting that yeah that was pretty dumb on someones part? And that thought process extends to more than this topic, it's a matter of being a better person going forward rather than looking at the next thing to point fingers at or trying to be a victim.

I cant speak for all native Americans in that theyre not offended, just like you and no one else cant have the audacity to speak for any or all of them to say they are offended.

If you want SOME stats here you go:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...a11cfa-161a-11e6-924d-838753295f9a_story.html

https://www.nbcsports.com/washingto...ve-americans-not-offended-Commanders-name?amp



Have a great day, God Bless!. And Go Cowboys! (While they're still called the Cowboys)
 

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There's something special about petty people, and it takes zero effort to find some of these stats. And what's even more sad is that these petty people jump to the pc offended side first without any factual basis to take that side. People want to argue for the pc side when they're either ignorant to or choose to ignore the origins of the name and logo. And with the chiefs it just takes this to a whole new level. People should be proud of this representation.

Obviously something(s) conditioned certain people to be offended, the question is will people take the time to educate themselves or is this a game of double down and never admitting that yeah that was pretty dumb on someones part? And that thought process extends to more than this topic, it's a matter of being a better person going forward rather than looking at the next thing to point fingers at or trying to be a victim.

I cant speak for all native Americans in that theyre not offended, just like you and no one else cant have the audacity to speak for any or all of them to say they are offended.

If you want SOME stats here you go:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...a11cfa-161a-11e6-924d-838753295f9a_story.html

https://www.nbcsports.com/washingto...ve-americans-not-offended-Commanders-name?amp



Have a great day, God Bless!. And Go Cowboys! (While they're still called the Cowboys)


LOL. That garbage study again.

When work is done by real scientists rather than a shady polling agency, you find far different results.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1948550619898556?journalCode=sppa
 

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LOL. That garbage study again.

When work is done by real scientists rather than a shady polling agency, you find far different results.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1948550619898556?journalCode=sppa
I try to help uninformed people like yourself, but it is like talking to a wall. I clicked on some of those references and some of them made ZERO mention of this topic. And some of them are sources I pretty much cited. I'm done here, you want to be held back and play victim cards, enjoy your life doing so.

edit: And by the way, the author of that is very much one of those radicals after doing some background research. She is very much a part of the problem in todays society, going around waving victim cards.
 
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I try to help uninformed people like yourself, but it is like talking to a wall. I clicked on some of those references and some of them made ZERO mention of this topic. And some of them are sources I pretty much cited. I'm done here, you want to be held back and play victim cards, enjoy your life doing so.

edit: And by the way, the author of that is very much one of those radicals after doing some background research. She is very much a part of the problem in todays society, going around waving victim cards.

Umm, no. You don't get to claim peer-reviewed research is inferior to polling commissioned by a researcher.

Zero mention? It is literally a scientific response to the crap work you presented.
 

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I’ve seen several native Americans that don’t like the headdresses the Chiefs fans wear, because only selected members of the tribe are allowed to wear them.
 

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What specific “Native American” culture are you referencing? You keep referencing it generically as if any given aspect can be applied to all tribes across the country. That’s precisely part of the problem.

What’s embarrassing is having people attempt to emulate a generic caricaturization of what an “Indian” is. And are you kidding me trying to make the distinction with my example of the Florida Tribesmen? When this country was conquered the indigenous people were referred to as “savages” or are you not aware of that?

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Umm, no. You don't get to claim peer-reviewed research is inferior to polling commissioned by a researcher.

Zero mention? It is literally a scientific response to the crap work you presented.

Back on the peer review fallacy train again? Weren't you embarrassed by this enough in the CV thread?
 

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Back on the peer review fallacy train again? Weren't you embarrassed by this enough in the CV thread?

Has this article been retracted or even questioned by anyone with a scientific background?

No.

Find a legit criticism of the research and get back to me.
 

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Has this article been retracted or even questioned by anyone with a scientific background?

No.

Find a legit criticism of the research and get back to me.

For you, there would be no such thing as a "legit" criticism.

And, I didn't say the study (or "prediction" rather) was false (I don't care. Even if 100% were offended, I still wouldn't care. Offended people are stupid).

I said your reasoning was bad. We already went down this road, and you still have egg on your face.
 
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Change is a part of life. The bellyaching will be replaced by acceptance, and life will go on.
 
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