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I'm a huge fan of the running game however we need to stop running on first down all the time. It didn't work worth a **** last year.

Also no idea why Moore runs zeke up the gut so much. Hasn't worked in years since Frederick's was healthy/ not retired.
 

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He also has lost 7 of the last eight games where his team was down by a TD. His body of work is something that has trended downward and this year looks to be the same. Plus given the fact that he is asking to be given a massive contract it doesn't really bode very well for the future of the team.

His clutch gene is taking a hit these last 17 games, that is for sure. For those that are opposed to Dak getting paid big money, this game would back that up in my opinion.
 

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I'm a huge fan of the running game however we need to stop running on first down all the time. It didn't work worth a **** last year.

Also no idea why Moore runs zeke up the gut so much. Hasn't worked in years since Frederick's was healthy/ not retired.

Zeke isn't a good outside runner. A lot of it is probably more just Zeke staying inside. Doesn't have the speed to bounce it outside that much.

And Zeke actually said he enjoys punishing the defense. You don't do that if you are bouncing it outside and getting tackled.
 

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Moore is still here. He is a legend in Jerry's mind.

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His clutch gene is taking a hit these last 17 games, that is for sure. For those that are opposed to Dak getting paid big money, this game would back that up in my opinion.

I'm not opposed to anyone getting big money provided a few things

1. You have proven that you are a difference maker - Dak has never been that guy, Zeke maybe but not Dak.
2. Your contract doesn't put the team in a situation where it cannot be competitive - given the holes at LB, TE, OL, DL and the secondary I'd say demolishing your cap for a slightly above average QB is not a good idea.
 

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On the road, if that truly applies here, and trailing by 3 with a chip shot FG, going for a 4th and 3 against how that D was playing was foolish. It is justice they lost by 3.

Now I wonder if we'll hear some second guessing from the Joneses like they did with McC's predecessor?

It will be interesting to see how he handles this because going for it didn't jack up his team's confidence but it did the Rams.

All most talked about was this Cowboys offense and all it could get was the magic 17 in an away venue.

It sure as hell didn't help losing 3 players at the worst depth positions on the team.
 

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On offense it all starts with the OL play.
When you can't drop back, set your feet and go through your progressions it changes the play calling and makes your predictable.

Why do you folks thing Donald makes so much money?
He get a QB pressure on about 18% of snaps. Well with Connor Williams it was around 35%.
We had an undrafted rookie starting at OT, a weak LG that wouldnt start on any other team. Joe Looney who is a backup level player. We have 2 guys on the OL playing last night who are starting level players in this league. The Rams could collapse the pocket with only 4 guys all night.

Fix that and the entire offense looks different including the play calling.

I guess you folks want what happened to Wentz yesterday to happen to Prescott last night. Coaches see whats happening and the play calling is adjusted.
 

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No Dak wasn't the reason we lost, he played his usual bus driver role. But Dak isn't the guy who you can lean on to win the game by driving you down the field. It's not a personal slight against Dak - he is what he is.
Isnt he responsible for like the second or third most 4th quarter comebacks in the NFL over the last 5 years?
 

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The only thing to really complain about was not being more aggressive downfield. It's not like Dallas struggled to move the ball.

This. Don't brag about how great your weapons are and then run them on the same stops and outs for 7 yards that we've been running for a decade. If that's the case we wasted a first round pick and money in amari.

That and running on first down so much werey only real gripes.

If we have oline issues work in some designed roll outs like we heard in the off-season.

Not sure if this was a Kellen thing hang over from jg.
 

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Zeke isn't a good outside runner. A lot of it is probably more just Zeke staying inside. Doesn't have the speed to bounce it outside that much.

And Zeke actually said he enjoys punishing the defense. You don't do that if you are bouncing it outside and getting tackled.

Zeke does just fine outside the tackles and I love the way he punishes defenses however you can't just keep running him straight up. Defenses now sit on those plays. Rookie year he was all over the place which kept defenses on edge.
 

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This. Don't brag about how great your weapons are and then run them on the same stops and outs for 7 yards that we've been running for a decade. If that's the case we wasted a first round pick and money in amari.

That and running on first down so much werey only real gripes.

Not sure if this was a Kellen thing hang over from jg.
For the most part I think the running on first down was just a matter of playing the numbers and likely decided at the LOS. It didn't look like they were running into the same stacked boxes. That philosophy is fine, but with the OL what it was yesterday, against that DL, it just didn't always work. We saw it be effective several times later in the game.

I agree that they should throw way more on first down, in general, though.
 

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Same old same old. Run Zeke into the line on 1st and 2nd to set up 3rd downs...with a undrafted rookie starting at RT to try and protect the qb. Was a set up for failure.
This stat from Warren Sharp is extremely telling and how someone on our coaching staff can’t recognize it is crazy.
 

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I'm not opposed to anyone getting big money provided a few things

1. You have proven that you are a difference maker - Dak has never been that guy, Zeke maybe but not Dak.
2. Your contract doesn't put the team in a situation where it cannot be competitive - given the holes at LB, TE, OL, DL and the secondary I'd say demolishing your cap for a slightly above average QB is not a good idea.

Im not going to get involved in stupid Dak talk so don't even bother with it. Dak led the NFL in last drive wins his first 3 years. The last year and one game, not so much. That's all I am going to say.

Average talk is stupid. Not paying him 40 million is definitely a conversation. Paying him 35 million is simply market rate.
 

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Isnt he responsible for like the second or third most 4th quarter comebacks in the NFL over the last 5 years?

He's also responsible for losing 7 of the last 8 games where the Cowboys have trailed by one score. Just depends on which point of view you want to magnify.
 

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He's also responsible for losing 7 of the last 8 games where the Cowboys have trailed by one score. Just depends on which point of view you want to magnify.
Oh hes responsible for that? Shame i thought this was a team sport. I see what youre doing. Careful. Your agenda is showing. I forgot hes not responsible when we win only when we lose.
 

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Zeke does just fine outside the tackles and I love the way he punishes defenses however you can't just keep running him straight up. Defenses now sit on those plays. Rookie year he was all over the place which kept defenses on edge.

"JUST FINE outside the tackles" That's pretty much a Dak defender conceding the point.
 

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MM may be a scam but atleast hes a better scam. We forgot how he came to At&t with Matt Flynn? Again, I remember all the ugly details about coward clapper. Dont get me started
 

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Anyone who thinks Dak was the reason we lost last night has a few screws loose. Very disappointed in the coaching on both sides of the ball. Rams HC had a great game plan on offense and defense. His play calling nullified any chance for our pass rush and we couldn't stop them. They only stopped themselves. As for their defense our offense looked just as predictable as they did last year. Shocked and disappointed.

Having said that it is only 1 game. We got ambushed by an offense we weren't prepared for. Coaches need to step up and make sure that doesn't happen again. Dak had a fabulous 1st half. Cee Dee looked great, Zeke looked great, Pollard as well. Losing Jarwin hurts badly as Shultz dropped 2 passes.

Last year we started out 3-0 and looked what happened. We'll see how this team handles some adversity. I'm expecting better going forward.

Great post. You nailed everything. A lot of the players, besides the one's you mentioned, didn't look game ready. But that can be expected in week 1 of this season. That can be fixed. What worries me is our OL. They were getting abused in the 2nd half and Dak didn't have a clean pocket. Yet we still should have had that play to Gallup. But right now I'm seeing way too much hand wringing over a week1 loss.
 
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