Tank the season to go after Trevor Lawrence at QB? Thread **merged**

Seven

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Has anyone in the media posed this scenario to Jerry Jones? It would be interesting getting Jones on record now (following the contract impasse with Prescott and his franchise quarterback's injury) and witnessing what he actually does during the draft this spring.
Great question. I have no idea, honestly.

Would be great to know:

1) Does anyone outside of the family circle have the cajones to ask?
2) How would Jerry answer that?
3) Would our heads explode.........
 

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There are no guarantees that Lawrence comes out this year. He'd be stupid if he didn't, but still no guarantees.
 

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You did it again. Really think every team in the league will be after Dak?

Think.

You started it. I wasn't directing anything towards you.

You look it up. It's there. You post a lie and I'M supposed to do the leg work for you?

At least I know what kind of poster you are.

I wasn't being condescending with my last post. I was trying to relay how easy rumors and partial truths get started and treated as gospel. Apologies if I came off half cocked. Thanks for the name calling tho. You really should read the rules of this sight. You could get banned. If that matters.
My god....dak will be a free agent, every team will have the ability to bid for his services. For that reason he will get a large pay day.

I started nothing. I gave my opinion, and I'm still trying to figure out the issue you have? I asked an honest clarifying question because i did a search, but couldn't find anything on your claims. If you have information to correct me then fine....im very open to the possibility of being wrong, but I can't find that information.

You call me a liar, its on you to put up information about that. Logically speaking dak will get paid 40 million a year, im not sure why thats even an argument?
 

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The cowboys will not be drafting TL even if they get the number one overall pick.

They will take a different player or they will try to get a good trade down value for someone wanting to jump up to get TL.

I really don't understand people thinking they will take TL. It only sets themselves up for failure.
Citation needed for bold.
 

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My god....dak will be a free agent, every team will have the ability to bid for his services. For that reason he will get a large pay day.

I started nothing. I gave my opinion, and I'm still trying to figure out the issue you have? I asked an honest clarifying question because i did a search, but couldn't find anything on your claims. If you have information to correct me then fine....im very open to the possibility of being wrong, but I can't find that information.

You call me a liar, its on you to put up information about that. Logically speaking dak will get paid 40 million a year, im not sure why thats even an argument?
Til the death, right?

Nice try in the use of different literary devices to save face. Doesn't work for me.

My proof is in my responses to you.

I'm done trying to chisel a rock, which in this case, is your head.

Any and all of your backpedaling can, again, be found in my responses to your continuous blathering.

There's always one. Yah........ you're that guy.
 

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I've been complimentary of Zeke as a player..

In general i'm always anti pay runningback.

If I ever at any point strayed away from what I believe about paying a RB it was because I was giving in to the idea of how the Jones's operate.

@Hennessy_King and I had arguments all the time about paying Elliot along with @ABQCOWBOY .


I am anti pay runningbacks.

I was anti pay Demarco.. This goes back with me before Zeke.

Rb is a dime a dozen position.
My argument always has been don't take a player top 10 if you don't want to pay him. regardless of position. If you take a player top 10 means he's a blue chip player that is expected to make pro bowls and all pro nods. Thats terrible planning on the front office's part. If it makes you feel better I wanted jalen ramsey and not zeke at #4
 

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My god....dak will be a free agent, every team will have the ability to bid for his services. For that reason he will get a large pay day.

I started nothing. I gave my opinion, and I'm still trying to figure out the issue you have? I asked an honest clarifying question because i did a search, but couldn't find anything on your claims. If you have information to correct me then fine....im very open to the possibility of being wrong, but I can't find that information.

You call me a liar, its on you to put up information about that. Logically speaking dak will get paid 40 million a year, im not sure why thats even an argument?
BTW - searching Google most likely won't help. Searching a football MB, kinda like this one, may help you find what you are searching for, Grasshopper.

:thumbup:
 

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We made Romo the highest paid player ever...and then gave him an elite roster according to many of you by at least 2016.

So there is ZERO excuse to make Dak a top 5 (and quickly surpassed by the Jacksons, Allens, and maybe Bakers of the world) and still not get him an elite roster.

You are making excuses to try to justify your opinion that we should get rid of Dak for financial reasons. When, I am almost positive, that you wanted to get rid of Dak when he was making less money in a full year than his peers was making in one game.

Cut the crap.
start going down the better teams in the NFL and tell me who has an ELITE roster.

The oline in Seattle isnt so good. Wilson is simply amazing at moving in that pocket and buying time. The Seattle defense pretty much sucks. So they arent elite. Lots of good teams have rosters not that different than ours.... but when you lose tons of starters, like us and the Iggles, you see what you get. Last year, Pitt lost Ben and they sucked .....sucked is subjective, but they werent in the playoffs.
 

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My argument always has been don't take a player top 10 if you don't want to pay him. regardless of position. If you take a player top 10 means he's a blue chip player that is expected to make pro bowls and all pro nods. Thats terrible planning on the front office's part. If it makes you feel better I wanted jalen ramsey and not zeke at #4

I liked Ramsey as well.

I was in the draft zones making arguments for him.. Some people didn't think he was a corner.. Some people said he didn't intercept enough passes..

I liked Zeke but RB's are a dime a dozen.
 

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Forget trying to win Sunday Night. Forget trying to win the division this season. Our Superbowl at this point is Trevor Lawrence..

Unfortunately... We may have watermelon kicked away our chance at an elite quarterback. 2 wins might be too many.

We have a couple of problems.

1. The team pushing these players to try and win these games.

2. The Jets are showing no signs of winning a game.

I'm struggling to find 1 win on this schedule.


Nov. 1 at Kansas City Chiefs
Nov. 9 New England Patriots
BYE
Nov. 22 at Los Angeles Chargers
Nov. 29 Miami Dolphins
Dec. 6 Las Vegas Raiders
Dec. 13 at Seattle Seahawks
Dec. 20 at Los Angeles Rams
Dec. 27 Cleveland Browns
Jan. 3 at New England Patriots

Hopefully the Jets will bring back Darnold and do their best to let him prove his value and the team pulls together and wins 3 games somehow.

Dallas needs to start Ben Dennucci.. Garret Gilbert.. Whoever.. Keep this Oline that might be the worst in history in place and let the defense do the rest.

We also need Justin Fields to have a really good season.. Like hopefully much better than Lawrence type of season. Lawrence struggling wouldn't be the worst thing too to help build the hype for Fields.

Then hopefully on draft day we can do whatever it takes to possibly move up a spot or 2 and get Lawrence. I'm sure Lawrence's agent would put a ton of pressure on the Jets to not select him as well if Dallas and Jerry Jones come calling.



This draft can send us 1 of 2 ways.. We either stay on the path of mediocrity and draft some "stud" defensive guy that has little impact on the outcomes of games or we turn this thing around and bring an electric player inside this building that is so desperately needed.

Right now this franchise needs hope and there is no hope on the way. With Lawrence in the house everything changes.

Potential elite QB for 5 years on a rookie deal is the way forward. Signing Dak and overcoming all of the other obstacles required for him to win a Championship just seems like wishful thinking.

they might win 3 of them ( hope)
even if we do JJ and his son won't take a QB they will go defense or OL
 

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I also know how difficult it is for truly ELITE QB's to win a Superbowl after getting paid.. Much less a guy like Dak.

I would sign Stafford over Dak just so we could potentially get a shorter deal that is easier to get out of. I don't think we lose anything in quality with Stafford either and once Dak loses the little athleticism he has then whats the point?

Lmao. You are the same bum who told us there would be no drop off with Dalton after Dak. No one cares or respects you word anymore. You throw anything into the wind and see if it comes back and sticks.
 

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PROVE IT.

No doubt he's younger, not injured so he's healthier, and a rookie so he's cheaper....and he's also considered a generational talent.....


Lawrence possesses a majority of the traits to be a successful NFL quarterback: Size, speed, arm talent, accuracy, and leadership. There will be a few players looking to be the number one pick next season, but as of now, Lawrence has the edge. In my opinion, Lawrence is better overall than Joe Burrow and Tua Tagovailoa, which would have made him the number one overall pick in the 2020 NFL Draft.

There are arguments that Lawrence only succeeds because of the excellent play-makers he has on the field with him. Does the talent help him? Of course, it does. But, is it the only reason he has only lost one game in college? Nope. Lawrence is a generational quarterback. The man possesses so much talent, a special overall talent college football fans have not seen for a while. Just by looking at him, it is easy to tell that he will be an NFL starting quarterback for years to come.

Whether it is the Jacksonville Jaguars, the Washington Commanders, or another team – whoever is on the clock with the first pick in the 2021 NFL Draft, I put my money on NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell to announce Lawrence first. In 2020 the phrase was “Tank for Tua”. Consider 2021 to be “Tank for Trevor”.

It will be interesting to see how fast Lawrence gets rolling next season as all eyes will be on him. The generational quarterback is likely entering his final year in college. He has the hype surrounding him – he knows where his future lies. Is there any way Lawrence elevates his game even more next season? Possibly, but one thing is for sure: Trevor Lawrence is an NFL star in the making.

https://thebrawlnetwork.com/article...-nfl-draft-scouting-report-and-player-review/
 

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Lmao. You are the same bum who told us there would be no drop off with Dalton after Dak. No one cares or respects you word anymore. You throw anything into the wind and see if it comes back and sticks.
Right? Yeah lets bring in Stafford. Another guy who cant win games against winning teams to replace a guy who this guy says cant beat winning teams. MAKES SENSE RIGHT?
 

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Right? Yeah lets bring in Stafford. Another guy who cant win games against winning teams to replace a guy who this guy says cant beat winning teams. MAKES SENSE RIGHT?

Lol exactly. Stafford has never once won his division and has lost every playoff game he played. He withers away in big games. He trashes Dak every chance he gets but then tells us we will be ok with Stafford? Lmao. He just keeps getting better every week.
 

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Lmao. You are the same bum who told us there would be no drop off with Dalton after Dak. No one cares or respects you word anymore. You throw anything into the wind and see if it comes back and sticks.


Well.. I'm piling up hundreds of likes for my post.. Not that I care about likes but it kind of refutes your point..

There is only 4 or 5 of you who like to name call and use middle school tactics.

Sorry I disappointed you so much about Dalton not winning games like Dak.. Oh wait..
 

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Lmao. You are the same bum who told us there would be no drop off with Dalton after Dak. No one cares or respects you word anymore. You throw anything into the wind and see if it comes back and sticks.
well most people on this board were damn happy when Dalton showed up. Im not sur emany people thought Dalton would exceed Dak(after his first 4 or 5 games) but we did expect Dalton to do pretty well. Hes been TERRIBLE. I said all along that this would answer the question in regards to Dak, and in my mind, it has. Dak will be signed, but that was nothing new. The Cowboys intended on signing him prior to this season, and they still intend on signing him after this injury.

I personally have changed my mind on how Good Dak is, and I even said as much PRIOR to his injury as nobody could really debate how he was playing. The only issue he had was TOs, and sometimes those just happen.
 

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I've been complimentary of Zeke as a player..

In general i'm always anti pay runningback.

If I ever at any point strayed away from what I believe about paying a RB it was because I was giving in to the idea of how the Jones's operate.

@Hennessy_King and I had arguments all the time about paying Elliot along with @ABQCOWBOY .


I am anti pay runningbacks.

I was anti pay Demarco.. This goes back with me before Zeke.

Rb is a dime a dozen position.

Fair enough!!! Glad to hear it.
 

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Well.. I'm piling up hundreds of likes for my post.. Not that I care about likes but it kind of refutes your point..

There is only 4 or 5 of you who like to name call and use middle school tactics.

Sorry I disappointed you so much about Dalton not winning games like Dak.. Oh wait..

Stop hiding behind the team winning or losing to deflect your complete bumbling of how good Dak is compared to Dalton. If you watch both QB's and don't come away saying that Dak is head and shoulders better then your just football dumb.

And based on your QB evaluation deficiencies, why would anyone listen to your theories about Lawrence? Based on your recent history, if you advocate for Lawrence, then the opposite is probably true.
 
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