Moore compounded the Nooch problem

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Moore was awful tonight. Let the kid throw in the middle you moron!

Collinsworth in the third quarter commented, “that’s the first real completion DiNucci has had tonight”. He’s right. It was a bunch of trick plays and hitch routes, that was the plan. Not a single go route, post route, slant pass, nothing.

Yeah, he’s a 7th round pick from James Madison with no preseason. But we know he has the arm to make all the throws, let him take a few shots..

I have a love/hate relationship with Moore. I do think he’s innovative and smart. But more often than not he seems to outsmart himself.
 

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We knew he had no business starting and why all the gimmicks and trickery were implemented. It was very creative . I think most expected a very embarrassing blowout.

Best coaching job all year. And I think besides a couple nick picking critiques like this is how it will be written tomorrow.

Again, calling a bunch of trick plays that don't work doesn't mean it was a creative game plan.

And the biggest offensive gaffe of the night was a trick play we ran before in the game and was also a similar failure. It was likely a game changing play call.
 

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I want to know which member of the cowboys told bryan broaddus the gameplan and what they were doing in practice. They did exactly what he said. This is awful for the organization and it tells me McCarthy is destined to fail repeatedly. If your offensive gameplan is just given to a guy who the organization has FIRED two times and he then repeats it on the radio for 4 straight hours....what does this say about the organization and the head coach.

ridiculous.

Could you elaborate on this @MikeB80 ? What did Broaddus say?
 

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Collinsworth in the third quarter commented, “that’s the first real completion DiNucci has had tonight”. He’s right. It was a bunch of trick plays and hitch routes, that was the plan. Not a single go route, post route, slant pass, nothing.

Yeah, he’s a 7th round pick from James Madison with no preseason. But we know he has the arm to make all the throws, let him take a few shots..

I have a love/hate relationship with Moore. I do think he’s innovative and smart. But more often than not he seems to outsmart himself.

I am with you on this. I think he gets too cute for his own good at times and tonight was an example.
 

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We churned up a lot of yards playing catch up this year. Moore's offenses had a lot of slow starts this year (turnovers were a factor, in fairness, in some games too).

And yes, even with a bad QB, you can have an OC call a good game and give his team at least a puncher's chance. Calling that reverse in that situation is just a dumb, college level play call right there. Why run it when Philly is struggling to stop your run game at that point?
I have no problem with Kellen Moore as our OC. Now, McCarthy and Nolan that is a different story.
 

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Creative doesn't matter if it doesn't have any results.

Just because you called a bunch of trick plays doesn't make it a great, creative game plan. Especially when many of the plays fail.
Keeping the game close and in play was getting results.

We knew couldn’t line up and play straight up with Nooch. He had no chance in pocket.
 

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Could you elaborate on this @MikeB80 ? What did Broaddus say?

he spent four hours on the pregame saying he was told the cowboys will run lots of wildcat with Cedrick Wilson, A lot of reverses and that Wilson will throw some passes in trick plays.

Someone who watched practice all week told him what they were doing and he repeated it verbatim on the air over and over on the pregame show.

Its either Hellman or one of the scouts who gets to see practice. either way this guy has been fired twice by the cowboys organization most recently last year and here he is giving out inside information on the radio.

its absurd to me and tells me McCarthy is a joke.
 

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I dunno, Moore had the no. 1 offense in football yards last year. Thats not bad. We were on record setting pace until Dak got hurt. And you wanna complain about an offense run by a rookie qb.
We played a lot of catchup last year - KM is blowing it.
 

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Next week Kellen Moore is going to call the Statue of Liberty play for Wilson 5 times while the team loses 49-3.

after the game the local beat reporters will call him creative and patriotic and then will stand and salute him.
 

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he spent four hours on the pregame saying he was told the cowboys will run lots of wildcat with Cedrick Wilson, A lot of reverses and that Wilson will throw some passes in trick plays.

Someone who watched practice all week told him what they were doing and he repeated it verbatim on the air over and over on the pregame show.

That’s awful. Of course it doesn’t matter this season, which is already lost, but what if we were 5-1 and vying for a bye week in the playoffs? Or what if it was a playoff game? This is the same coach who took numbers off the players’ jerseys in the scrimmage for a competitive advantage. Hope someone notices this and fixes it.
 

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Maybe Dak made Moore last year.

Let's stipulate that Nooch was terrible. But a quality OC doesn't compound the problem that puts the QB and the team into bad situations. We had Philly on their heels early in the 3rd quarter and were running it down their throats. So what does Moore do? Go into his college bag of tricks and run a play that hadn't fooled Philly the first time you tried to run.

Cost us like 10 yards, made it a long FG for Greg the Leg and Philly ended up with the ball at midfield and scored a TD to take the lead.

It was such a horrendous call in that situation. And that wasn't the only questionable call he made all night. I wonder how long a leash he has with McCarthy?

lol....we never had them on their heels and we were never running it down their throats.

that was about the worst qb performance I have ever seen. Despite them not letting him throw downfield. DiNucci isn’t even nfl material. Cut him tmrw.
 

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Keeping the game close and in play was getting results.

We knew couldn’t line up and play straight up with Nooch. He had no chance in pocket.

The game was only close because the defense finally got some turnovers, played fairly well and Wentz sucked.

We scored 9 points. That's it. The offense didn't keep the game close. LOL.
 

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That’s awful. Of course it doesn’t matter this season, which is already lost, but what if we were 5-1 and vying for a bye week in the playoffs? Or what if it was a playoff game? This is the same coach who took numbers off the players’ jerseys in the scrimmage for a competitive advantage. Hope someone notices this and fixes it.

yep. McCarthy is a joke. So is broaddus for saying this stuff publicly. Then again they fired him twice so what does he care.
 

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Again, calling a bunch of trick plays that don't work doesn't mean it was a creative game plan.

And the biggest offensive gaffe of the night was a trick play we ran before in the game and was also a similar failure. It was likely a game changing play call.
Only if you thought we could have won the game.

We couldn’t have lined straight up all night. The fact they had to defense they threat of trickery opened what little not al offense we had.

Calling out one bad play that didn’t work is lame instead of focusing on the creative plan otherwise.
 

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The game was only close because the defense finally got some turnovers, played fairly well and Wentz sucked.

We scored 9 points. That's it. The offense didn't keep the game close. LOL.

the defense gave up 1 less point tonight than they gave up at philly last year. lost both of them.
 

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Collinsworth in the third quarter commented, “that’s the first real completion DiNucci has had tonight”. He’s right. It was a bunch of trick plays and hitch routes, that was the plan. Not a single go route, post route, slant pass, nothing.

Yeah, he’s a 7th round pick from James Madison with no preseason. But we know he has the arm to make all the throws, let him take a few shots..

I have a love/hate relationship with Moore. I do think he’s innovative and smart. But more often than not he seems to outsmart himself.
That's about the size of it.
 

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lol....we never had them on their heels and we were never running it down their throats.

that was about the worst qb performance I have ever seen. Despite them not letting him throw downfield. DiNucci isn’t even nfl material. Cut him tmrw.

On that opening 3rd down drive, we did:

- Elliott for 9
- Elliott for 6
- Elliott for 8
- Pollard for 7
- Pollard for 3
- Pollard for 9
- Elliott for 2
- Reverse for -10

Stupid play call in that situation.
 
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