Game turned when they put Zeke back in for Pollard

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Yeah it's pretty clear to see the difference. Zeke seems to have lost his vision and burst...idk almost like he just wants to run into contact..
 

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That was already a stupid narrative before and looking dumber all the time. But to be fair, Zeke was the focal point of the offense those first two years.. but it has clearly shifted to Dak now..

I disagree. If Zeke was the focal point, Dallas would not have gone .500 without Zeke in 6 games in Dak's second year -- including some games where the offense produced very well like the Giants.

We will see how the rest of this season plays out but Dallas will not get to .500 without Dak this year...Dallas has 2 TDs without Dak in 4 games. That shows that Dak is the focal point of this offense. If Zeke was the focal point of the Dallas offense back in 2017, I would suspect that Dallas offense would have produced similarly as they have been producing without Zeke as they are now without Dak.
 

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That's all you can come up with? I hope you love KMoore as the imminent HC. I hope Zeke is out of here too.....it would be a favor to him with all the penchant for ALL the blame. And Pollard would want out too.....giving the misuse and revolving door playing that both are under.
Keep Moore as oc.
 

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Momentum seemed to have shifted.......................Cowboys were driving down the field and Pollard had just busted loose for couple of nice 18-20 yard runs. 2 more than Zeke has had in 3 years. It looked like Pollard was just primed to break one more tackle he would take it to the house.

Then they got stupid and put Zeke back in. And that's where it all stalled. If Pollard plays 80% of the game, the Cowboys win.

Anyone see the ball bounce right off stone hands chest on the 10 yard out on that final drive?

Why they continue to feature Zeke in the run game remains a big mystery.

Pollard: 9 carries for 57 yards.........6.3 average (Looked like he was just getting warmed up)

Zeke Idiot: 18 carries for 2.8 yards

I would think that it's pretty simple .. if you watch the game you will see that the defense paid about 3 times the attention to Zeke as they did to Pollard. How many times were there three defenders in the backfield when Zeke got the ball? Meanwhile Pollard got a couple of runs where he was untouched for the first 10 yards. You know why that happens? Because when Zeke is off the field the defensive focus shifts elsewhere. Pollard gained 52 of his yards on 3 carries.. then put up a stellar 5 yards on the other 6 carries. Under 1 yard per tote. Love the big plays but consistently moving the ball and keeping the greenhorn QB out of 2nd and 3rd and long as well as keeping the defense honest is also valuable in the long run. As for your assertion that Pollard has had 2 more 20 yards runs than Zeke has had in 3 years.. Why make a false statement like that? It weakens your argument when you support it with tripe. .. Zeke is banged up and could easily have sat this one out completely.. But you don't want a guy making his first ever start in the NFL out there unable to count on his running back to pick up the blitz. On a team that has gone 65/35 pass run ratio your back has to be good in blitz pickup. Pollard simply isn't there yet. As it was he got plenty of chances.. He was dropped for losses on 3 of his 9 carries or was it 4? You can't build a consistent running attack being TFLd over a third of the time.

I think they have it about right mixing in Pollard for about a third of the touches. Until he picks up the blitz better he's not going to be trusted out there in the hurry up. Period. And until he develops the ability to push the pile for a couple even when the blocking is less than stellar ( which is going to be the case more often than not the rest of this year..) he remains the change up.
I know nobody wants to hear it but that's the reality.


I know nobody wants to hear it but that's the reality.
 

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I would think that it's pretty simple .. if you watch the game you will see that the defense paid about 3 times the attention to Zeke as they did to Pollard. How many times were there three defenders in the backfield when Zeke got the ball? Meanwhile Pollard got a couple of runs where he was untouched for the first 10 yards. You know why that happens? Because when Zeke is off the field the defensive focus shifts elsewhere. Pollard gained 52 of his yards on 3 carries.. then put up a stellar 5 yards on the other 6 carries. Under 1 yard per tote. Love the big plays but consistently moving the ball and keeping the greenhorn QB out of 2nd and 3rd and long as well as keeping the defense honest is also valuable in the long run. As for your assertion that Pollard has had 2 more 20 yards runs than Zeke has had in 3 years.. Why make a false statement like that? It weakens your argument when you support it with tripe. .. Zeke is banged up and could easily have sat this one out completely.. But you don't want a guy making his first ever start in the NFL out there unable to count on his running back to pick up the blitz. On a team that has gone 65/35 pass run ratio your back has to be good in blitz pickup. Pollard simply isn't there yet. As it was he got plenty of chances.. He was dropped for losses on 3 of his 9 carries or was it 4? You can't build a consistent running attack being TFLd over a third of the time.

I think they have it about right mixing in Pollard for about a third of the touches. Until he picks up the blitz better he's not going to be trusted out there in the hurry up. Period. And until he develops the ability to push the pile for a couple even when the blocking is less than stellar ( which is going to be the case more often than not the rest of this year..) he remains the change up.
I know nobody wants to hear it but that's the reality.


I know nobody wants to hear it but that's the reality.


No one cares about zeke anymore buddy. Why would anyone be afraid of 3 yards and a cloud of dust zeke? If you honestly can’t see who the more skilled, and effective back is then that’s on you.

yah.....pollard makes big plays where zeke makes none.

oh yah and that 2.8 yards per carry average really kept them out of 2nd and long. Lol
 
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Pollard looks like he runs twice as fast. I really don't know what happened to Zeke. We cant really blame the O line when Pollard was bursting through holes. It must be a motivation thing
 

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i don't know what's gotten into zeke, but Pollard looks way more explosive
low key faded. did you see him on the bench, he looked lost and stoned. With no pot testing I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s smoking out on game day.
 

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No one cares about zeke anymore buddy. Why would anyone be afraid of 3 yards and a cloud of dust zeke? If you honestly can’t see who the more skilled, and effective back is then that’s on you.

yah.....pollard makes big plays where zeke makes none.

oh yah and that 2.8 yards per carry averag really kept them out of 2nd and long. Lol

Ask Mike Tomlin and the Pittsburgh defense.. They played a 8 and 9 man boxes on run downs with Zeke in the game a lot of the time.. and sorta laid back and said "prove it" when Pollard was in. That's why there were too many defenders for us to block on so many of Zeke's runs. Most of which he still managed to turn into positive yards. If you honestly can't understand the value of a guy who gets positive yards on 90% of his carries and does the heavy lifting as opposed to a guy who gets a couple of big plays but loses yards on 30-40% of his carries then we will simply have to agree to disagree. Take the second drive of the game when Pollard had his first big run.. He goes for 20 ... then goes for -1 then whiffs on blitz pickup and allows a sack.. After his 20 yarder in the 3rd quarter we go pass pass pass then kick the FG. How you manage to blame Zeke for that is the real mystery here. The next drive he goes 5,12 then -2. Then we sub Zeke in and he goes 16 on the pass.. NG, pass pass, Zeke for 1 , Zeke for 8, FG. We should have gone for it on 4th down there.. McCarthy punked out there.. Then the next drive after the long KO return Zeke goes 5, 10, 2 then we decide to become Air Coryell again and throw the pick.. After Zeke gets us first and goal at the 7. Bad coaching on those two drives cost us 11 points.. Both should have ended in TDs instead of a FG and an INT.

And yeah.. 2nd and 7 is better than 2nd and 11 or 12. Whether you like it or not.. You have more of your playbook at your disposal on 2nd and 6 or 7. You lose a lot of it on 2nd and 10+.
 

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i don't know what's gotten into zeke, but Pollard looks way more explosive
He has 90+ million in his pockets weighing him down.

Zeke has the worst vision i hve ever seen for a rb...
 

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That's all you can come up with? I hope you love KMoore as the imminent HC. I hope Zeke is out of here too.....it would be a favor to him with all the penchant for ALL the blame. And Pollard would want out too.....giving the misuse and revolving door playing that both are under.
So everyone should receive blame then how do you explain the HUGE difference in Pollards numbers vs zekes? They were both running behind the same O line last time I checked and if you watched the game it was clearly obvious which one was better. Sadly the 2nd highest paid back in the league wasn’t the one that looked better.

You’re just about out of exuses.
 

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Ask Mike Tomlin and the Pittsburgh defense.. They played a 8 and 9 man boxes on run downs with Zeke in the game a lot of the time.. and sorta laid back and said "prove it" when Pollard was in. That's why there were too many defenders for us to block on so many of Zeke's runs. Most of which he still managed to turn into positive yards. If you honestly can't understand the value of a guy who gets positive yards on 90% of his carries and does the heavy lifting as opposed to a guy who gets a couple of big plays but loses yards on 30-40% of his carries then we will simply have to agree to disagree. Take the second drive of the game when Pollard had his first big run.. He goes for 20 ... then goes for -1 then whiffs on blitz pickup and allows a sack.. After his 20 yarder in the 3rd quarter we go pass pass pass then kick the FG. How you manage to blame Zeke for that is the real mystery here. The next drive he goes 5,12 then -2. Then we sub Zeke in and he goes 16 on the pass.. NG, pass pass, Zeke for 1 , Zeke for 8, FG. We should have gone for it on 4th down there.. McCarthy punked out there.. Then the next drive after the long KO return Zeke goes 5, 10, 2 then we decide to become Air Coryell again and throw the pick.. After Zeke gets us first and goal at the 7. Bad coaching on those two drives cost us 11 points.. Both should have ended in TDs instead of a FG and an INT.

And yeah.. 2nd and 7 is better than 2nd and 11 or 12. Whether you like it or not.. You have more of your playbook at your disposal on 2nd and 6 or 7. You lose a lot of it on 2nd and 10+.
Bwhahahahahahahaha....here we go, the stacked box excuses. Notice how he never mentioned that has faced less and less stacked boxes every year. Last year 26 other RB’s faced more stacked boxes than zeke, that’s how much they respect him. Even when he had lots of room to run tonight he was slow and would bury his shoulder into a defender instead of trying to make a move and break a tackle, he’s like a weeble wobble who just falls over with that big head of his.

If zeke were running the ball on those same plays Pollard was, he would have been lucky to get half the yards. zeke is nothing but an overpaid glorified full back.
 

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Ask Mike Tomlin and the Pittsburgh defense.. They played a 8 and 9 man boxes on run downs with Zeke in the game a lot of the time.. and sorta laid back and said "prove it" when Pollard was in. That's why there were too many defenders for us to block on so many of Zeke's runs. Most of which he still managed to turn into positive yards. If you honestly can't understand the value of a guy who gets positive yards on 90% of his carries and does the heavy lifting as opposed to a guy who gets a couple of big plays but loses yards on 30-40% of his carries then we will simply have to agree to disagree. Take the second drive of the game when Pollard had his first big run.. He goes for 20 ... then goes for -1 then whiffs on blitz pickup and allows a sack.. After his 20 yarder in the 3rd quarter we go pass pass pass then kick the FG. How you manage to blame Zeke for that is the real mystery here. The next drive he goes 5,12 then -2. Then we sub Zeke in and he goes 16 on the pass.. NG, pass pass, Zeke for 1 , Zeke for 8, FG. We should have gone for it on 4th down there.. McCarthy punked out there.. Then the next drive after the long KO return Zeke goes 5, 10, 2 then we decide to become Air Coryell again and throw the pick.. After Zeke gets us first and goal at the 7. Bad coaching on those two drives cost us 11 points.. Both should have ended in TDs instead of a FG and an INT.

And yeah.. 2nd and 7 is better than 2nd and 11 or 12. Whether you like it or not.. You have more of your playbook at your disposal on 2nd and 6 or 7. You lose a lot of it on 2nd and 10+.
The cherry picking, fact ignoring, stat skewing champion right here folks!
 

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Ask Mike Tomlin and the Pittsburgh defense.. They played a 8 and 9 man boxes on run downs with Zeke in the game a lot of the time.. and sorta laid back and said "prove it" when Pollard was in. That's why there were too many defenders for us to block on so many of Zeke's runs. Most of which he still managed to turn into positive yards. If you honestly can't understand the value of a guy who gets positive yards on 90% of his carries and does the heavy lifting as opposed to a guy who gets a couple of big plays but loses yards on 30-40% of his carries then we will simply have to agree to disagree. Take the second drive of the game when Pollard had his first big run.. He goes for 20 ... then goes for -1 then whiffs on blitz pickup and allows a sack.. After his 20 yarder in the 3rd quarter we go pass pass pass then kick the FG. How you manage to blame Zeke for that is the real mystery here. The next drive he goes 5,12 then -2. Then we sub Zeke in and he goes 16 on the pass.. NG, pass pass, Zeke for 1 , Zeke for 8, FG. We should have gone for it on 4th down there.. McCarthy punked out there.. Then the next drive after the long KO return Zeke goes 5, 10, 2 then we decide to become Air Coryell again and throw the pick.. After Zeke gets us first and goal at the 7. Bad coaching on those two drives cost us 11 points.. Both should have ended in TDs instead of a FG and an INT.

And yeah.. 2nd and 7 is better than 2nd and 11 or 12. Whether you like it or not.. You have more of your playbook at your disposal on 2nd and 6 or 7. You lose a lot of it on 2nd and 10+.

You have a great imagination. You might be zeke’s last fan.
 

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Jerry says Zeke and Jaylon and Crawford get to play no matter what.

This is the same as Rougned Odor with the Rangers. He is terrible but they paid him a lot of money and he will keep starting. Front offices in sports are like this a lot. They will put the call into the coaches to make sure their high money players see the most playing time they can get.
 

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Zeke’s partying and drinking and eating has caught up with him . When you have a guaranteed contract like he does , why would he care . He is getting paid. It is just a clock in and clock out job now . Sad
 
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