Neville Gallimore and Randy Gregory

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Gallimore and Hill should be a very good combo in the middle in 2021. Add another stud DT in the offseason, add Woods to the rotation, and that’ll be a position of strength. Then concentrate on the back 7.
They play the same position. Need the big nasty beside those two.
 

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If Randy had played a lot of football 28 would be old just look at Tyron smith. Randy doesn't have the wear and tear of back to back NFL seasons.
I think he only has one full season
Tyron was drafted at 20 years old Gregory was drafted at 22 years old
 

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They were in Nickel the entire game and played more 1-gap than 2-gap.

The Cowboys next game might be the worst match-up for the Cowboys defense.

The Vikings are a strong zone running team which has been the Cowboys biggest struggle to defend going back to the 2018 season and it continued into this season.

They also play the 49ers later this season and the Niners were a machine on zone running last season.

It will be good litmus tests to see how play hold up against those two teams on the ground. It might be an excellent gauge what future personnel is needed to combat that strong, zone blocking rushing teams.
 

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I admit that I really want to see less of Jaylon ...and more of a pairing of LVE and Sean Lee as Voch's All-22 illustrated.
Or at least LVE and Joe Thomas.

Just not a fan of Jaylon Smith and I think his game really hurts this defense and makes it a lesser unit, imo.

Quick, if they keep their draft slot in that top 5 range, would they have the guts to take Parsons from Penn State and eventually move on from Jaylon. Parsons is a similar prospect as Jaylon was, not a take on guy, but suppose to have elite instincts for the position, which clearly Jaylon doesn't possess.
 

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I have been puzzled by Gallimore's absence in plays and now he shows up.
I put it too rookie season.
Out first four picks and I think the 5th pick are solid.

A lot of these guys just need opportunities.. Effort can still overcome skill in this sport and when you got a fat blob like Poe doing nothing and just collecting a check then you have to give the young guy a chance and he was shining last game.

He brought Pouncey off the ground on 1 play. If that’s not disruptive then I don’t know what is.
 

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Hill was much better against double teams this season than Gallimore has been.

Hill played as a 3-4 NT for 2 of 3 college seasons.

Obviously Hill is not an NFL 0tech but he is very strong.

They both have great quickness for players over 300 pounds.

So you believe that both Hill/Gallimore are more 3T's on this level, that there is a need for more of a 0 or 1 next to them?
 

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So you believe that both Hill/Gallimore are more 3T's on this level, that there is a need for more of a 0 or 1 next to them?
Yes. Hill doesn't anchor well enough to be a 1 tech at this level.

Now, Galley did bulk up to 330 and played NT for the Sooners one year. After watching him, though, that sure would seem like a waste of talent.

IMO, these two guys need to play the 3 tech next to the monster. One of the reasons Galley broke out, IMO, is having a Justin Hamilton type on the line. Hamilton is not great by any means, but at his size(6-2/315), he could easily be the anchor in the middle we need. Don't forget ol' Willie Blade, the anchor in the middle next to Laroi Gover who helped form the #1 D in the NFL for us in 03. He wasn't great, but he held up the middle, allowing others to do their jobs. Two "rushmen" at DT has never worked all that well in the NFL. Need at least one guy who can anchor.
 

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who's to say Hill and Gallimore cannot be your two studs in the middle, so that you wont to be wish-listing another stud DT in the offseason ?
o_O
They’re both 3 techs. They might be in together on passing downs, but not in the base defense.
 

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Yes. Hill doesn't anchor well enough to be a 1 tech at this level.

Now, Galley did bulk up to 330 and played NT for the Sooners one year. After watching him, though, that sure would seem like a waste of talent.

IMO, these two guys need to play the 3 tech next to the monster. One of the reasons Galley broke out, IMO, is having a Justin Hamilton type on the line. Hamilton is not great by any means, but at his size(6-2/315), he could easily be the anchor in the middle we need. Don't forget ol' Willie Blade, the anchor in the middle next to Laroi Gover who helped form the #1 D in the NFL for us in 03. He wasn't great, but he held up the middle, allowing others to do their jobs. Two "rushmen" at DT has never worked all that well in the NFL. Need at least one guy who can anchor.
Need that guy who can command a double team or force the guy in front of him back toward the QB.
 

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Yes. Hill doesn't anchor well enough to be a 1 tech at this level.

Now, Galley did bulk up to 330 and played NT for the Sooners one year. After watching him, though, that sure would seem like a waste of talent.

IMO, these two guys need to play the 3 tech next to the monster. One of the reasons Galley broke out, IMO, is having a Justin Hamilton type on the line. Hamilton is not great by any means, but at his size(6-2/315), he could easily be the anchor in the middle we need. Don't forget ol' Willie Blade, the anchor in the middle next to Laroi Gover who helped form the #1 D in the NFL for us in 03. He wasn't great, but he held up the middle, allowing others to do their jobs. Two "rushmen" at DT has never worked all that well in the NFL. Need at least one guy who can anchor.

Your right. Any candidates in mind for the offseason?
 

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Tyron was drafted at 20 years old Gregory was drafted at 22 years old
Was just saying that Tyron has more wear and tear on his body and it shows. Offensive lineman can usually play will into mid 30's
In NFL terms Randy is a puppy
 

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Don't they play the same position?

Are they interchangeable ?
If they both manage to play and defend the run well enough as starters do you consider starting both of them ?

That's also a 2nd rounder (Hill) and a 3rd rounder (Gallimore) that we've have already invested and do you pint one of them to the bench simply because
he's not a fit type? Sapp and Booger were also 3 tech types but the Bucs thought Booger was too good enough to pass up in the draft despite already having
the incumbent Sapp. They managed to plug and defend run well enough to be a great DT pair.
 

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Yes. Hill doesn't anchor well enough to be a 1 tech at this level.

Now, Galley did bulk up to 330 and played NT for the Sooners one year. After watching him, though, that sure would seem like a waste of talent.

IMO, these two guys need to play the 3 tech next to the monster. One of the reasons Galley broke out, IMO, is having a Justin Hamilton type on the line. Hamilton is not great by any means, but at his size(6-2/315), he could easily be the anchor in the middle we need. Don't forget ol' Willie Blade, the anchor in the middle next to Laroi Gover who helped form the #1 D in the NFL for us in 03. He wasn't great, but he held up the middle, allowing others to do their jobs. Two "rushmen" at DT has never worked all that well in the NFL. Need at least one guy who can anchor.

- Hill hasn't played a lot of games either.
If anything backs him up to a reserve, it will be because of his lack of game experience.
First with Marinelli game day inactive him for almost half of the season. And now with the knee IR that shortening his season.
I would say it will take a full year for Hill to regain his previous form, but with todays medical technology and how some players manage to get back to play mode quickly
than vs past years.

- ironically one of the rap knocks against Gallimore is that he was lacking as a run defender. He has great weight room strength but hadn't translate that into the playing field as a run defender.
and it wasn't until the injuries to McCoy, Hill..and release of Poe that got Gally far more reps to even have a chance to show his skills.
Otherwise Gally is another red shirt case.

- one reason why that 2 starting rush men has not worked that well, is because big impact interior DTs are always so damn incredibly difficult to find anyway.
Even just trying to find one.

- You rarely get the occasional Chris Jones, Geno Atkins, Grady Jarrett type gem-finds past the 1st round. and more times you have to go 1st round to better
have the best chance to get impact DTs such as Aaron Donald, Fletcher Cox and DeForrest Buckner

.- And even that is a task as we're still waiting to see guys like Ed Oliver, Jon Allen, Ron Payne, Quentin Williams, Vita Vey, Solomon Thomas, Leonard Williams. etc.
 

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Yes. Hill doesn't anchor well enough to be a 1 tech at this level.

Now, Galley did bulk up to 330 and played NT for the Sooners one year. After watching him, though, that sure would seem like a waste of talent.

IMO, these two guys need to play the 3 tech next to the monster. One of the reasons Galley broke out, IMO, is having a Justin Hamilton type on the line. Hamilton is not great by any means, but at his size(6-2/315), he could easily be the anchor in the middle we need. Don't forget ol' Willie Blade, the anchor in the middle next to Laroi Gover who helped form the #1 D in the NFL for us in 03. He wasn't great, but he held up the middle, allowing others to do their jobs. Two "rushmen" at DT has never worked all that well in the NFL. Need at least one guy who can anchor.

That's what I thought, both have the 3 covered, but need a 0 or a 1 next to them
 

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Gallimore flashes enormous upside

It had been a tough rookie year for Neville Gallimore, who struggled to transition his skill set against elevated opposition in a completely new scheme. He struggled to hold his ground at the point of attack, couldn’t get off of blocks, was often displaced from his gap and was largely ineffective as a pass rusher.

It shouldn’t be a surprise that Dallas' run defense magically improved -- it allowed 2.6 yards per carry Sunday after giving up 5.1 entering the game -- when the defensive tackles finally put together a good performance. Gallimore’s ability to not only penetrate and disrupt but also maintain his gap integrity and get off of blocks made life much easier on the linebackers. This helped the structure of Dallas' run defense remain solid throughout the game.

Gallimore did a much better job of maintaining a low pad level, and the leverage created by that enabled him to maximize his power and play strength. This translated both against the pass and run.

On his three tackles, Gallimore did an excellent job of attacking edges with quickness and power to penetrate through his gap. What made those plays so impressive is they all came against Steelers right guard David DeCastro, a five-time Pro-Bowler and three-time All-Pro.

Even more impressive than those plays was Gallimore’s pressure against eight-time Pro-Bowler and five-time All-Pro Maurkice Pouncey after the two-minute warning in the second quarter

Gallimore on this play is aligned with a tight shade opposite DeCastro, but when the ball is snapped, he spiked inside to pick the center as part of his twist stunt with Justin Hamilton (No. 79). It wasn’t like Pouncey was caught by surprise, Gallimore just did an excellent job of using violent hands along with great leverage, hand placement, timing and arm extension to put Pouncey on his back before laying a massive hit on Roethlisberger.

Although he wasn’t able to sustain his pass-rush success throughout the game, it was great to see Gallimore flash some ability to make an impact as an interior rusher, something Dallas has sorely lacked this season.

Gallimore’s upside has always been enormous, but Sunday was the first time he flashed it in a Cowboys uniform.

Gotta love the jump from "first time showing a few flashes" to Gallimore has ENORMOUS upside!!!

Like the kid, but we have all heard this stuff before. People projecting a few plays to eventually the kid being like that all the time. Takes strength, commitment, guts, and heart to play that position and be good every week.
 
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