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xwalker

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There are 5 new HCs this year in the NFL. All of them except Joe Judge in NYG have more wins than Big Mac. They all experienced the same Covid challenges. Sure we have had a ton of injuries. But injuries didn't make Zeke fumble, cause our defense to be dead last in turnovers, or make our coaching staff go for it on 4th and 10 from our 25 yd line. Any objective observer would have to say this coaching staff has been awful.

Ron Rivera as the new head coach for WFT, experiencing same Covid outbreak, has had to deal with his own cancer treatments, and gone through 3 QBs, and somehow managed to sweep us this year by a combined score of 66-19.

Kevin Stefanski is the new HC in Cle, and despite the Covid difficulties and their share of injuries, he has parlayed that into a 7-3 record including a win here in Sept.

Yes, we have experienced terrible injuries. Probably shot our season when Dak went down. But the boneheaded coaching decisions we have seen since week one in LA have nothing to do with injuries.

I believe numerous injuries can shoot down a season, especially at QB. But this team’s poor performance is more than just injury or Covid induced. Even more concerning to me is this team’s serious lack of talent on defense.

I also believe MM deserves another year. But if he doesn’t clean up some of this sloppy coaching messes, the leash needs to be shortened.

One thing that I'm absolutely certain about is that I'm a more objective viewer than you are.

If you're honest with yourself, you know that my statement is true.

You still hold a grudge because Jerry fired Landry.
 

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You speak common sense. You speak the obvious. You speak the truth. What’s sad is how so many can’t see the obvious, they have no common sense and therefore they speak lies. Great post.

Many "fans" don't really watch the games. They just casually observe and see big plays, good or bad.

I watched the same TV as one of those fans on Thanksgiving.
 

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I agree. Given reasonable health, next year's team should be quite talented. Offensively, they are set if the tackles come back healthy. Granted, T. Smith is a question mark. People might not like Elliott's paycheck or draft position, but paired with Pollard they are fine at RB. Prescott should be healthy. Jarwin and Schultz look solid at TE. WR is already strong.

The defense needs work, especially if you don't get A. Smith back and/or have concerns about Gregory. You need a DT. LB might be OK. Can J. Smith rebound and LVE stay healthy. You need 2 CBs and a S if you let your free agents walk, and maybe if you don't.

But you might have found some answers this year (Gallimore, Wilson and Gregory, if he can stay healthy mentally). Hill could be there as well. Diggs looks like a long-term answer.

Need a strong draft, and I hope they are in position to trade down a bit and pick up an extra pick or two. If the wheels are completely off and they pick as high as third, you might need to take the OT. A draft isn't for a single season. That might complicate the defensive rebuild a bit.

Assuming you let most of your vet free agents walk, you're going to have to play in that market. I'd try to play at a bit higher level even if that means going into training camp a little soft at a position or two. They don't need another FA blunder like this year.

I don't buy that these veteran coaches suddenly became incompetent. But we will see, I suppose. I think they've played with a bad hand and tried too hard to compensate.
Good post Shake. This has been a season of continuous setbacks with the injuries. It’s like they never end. Every game we lose at least another starter if not 2. Then the next game we lose the backups to the starters. Then the next game we lose the backup to the backup to the starters. That’s why we’re seeing desperation moves from the coaches. They really have no choice. I’m glad there are others like you and @xwalker and a few others who see the truth.
 

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There is no way to make sense of this season.

Covid with new coaching staff.

Extreme injury issues.

Some of the coaching staff did not even know each other prior to being hired. A new HC can only hire coaches that are available.

Garrett would have just had Zeke ram into the Washington DL all game long despite their DL being one of the best.

Turmoil this season is better than the Garrett MO of close losses and 8-8 or 9-7 seasons with no real chance of true playoff success.
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"Garrett would have just had Zeke ram into the Washington DL all game long despite their DL being one of the best." Cannot deny this.
 

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Many "fans" don't really watch the games. They just casually observe and see big plays, good or bad.

I watched the same TV as one of those fans on Thanksgiving.
They really don’t. If you watch the game day threads they’re constantly typing posts. How can they be watching? They can’t. They’re only listening and so whatever the announcers say, they take as gospel. Then whatever others on the game day thread say they take as gospel because they have no clue. Eventually it delves into total BS
 

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I have no problem with MM. He'll get min three years from me. Starting to think maybe he's using this year take notes and evaluate since CV19 robbed him of any several months of offseason training. My guess, he will truly start molding the team with his kind of players after the season, especially the D, where we could see as many as 5-6 new starters IMO.
I don't know how much input he had in GB on draft picks, but I seem to remember an early quote that it wasn't much.
 

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There are 5 new HCs this year in the NFL. All of them except Joe Judge in NYG have more wins than Big Mac. They all experienced the same Covid challenges. Sure we have had a ton of injuries. But injuries didn't make Zeke fumble, cause our defense to be dead last in turnovers, or make our coaching staff go for it on 4th and 10 from our 25 yd line. Any objective observer would have to say this coaching staff has been awful.

Ron Rivera as the new head coach for WFT, experiencing same Covid outbreak, has had to deal with his own cancer treatments, and gone through 3 QBs, and somehow managed to sweep us this year by a combined score of 66-19.

Kevin Stefanski is the new HC in Cle, and despite the Covid difficulties and their share of injuries, he has parlayed that into a 7-3 record including a win here in Sept.

Yes, we have experienced terrible injuries. Probably shot our season when Dak went down. But the boneheaded coaching decisions we have seen since week one in LA have nothing to do with injuries.

I believe numerous injuries can shoot down a season, especially at QB. But this team’s poor performance is more than just injury or Covid induced. Even more concerning to me is this team’s serious lack of talent on defense.

I also believe MM deserves another year. But if he doesn’t clean up some of this sloppy coaching messes, the leash needs to be shortened.

Seems like out of the new coaches we got the worse one.
 

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One thing that I'm absolutely certain about is that I'm a more objective viewer than you are.

If you're honest with yourself, you know that my statement is true.

You still hold a grudge because Jerry fired Landry.
That is a very un objective and inaccurate statement on your part. I was actually of the opinion Landry needed to go. Never had a problem with his removal other than the tone deaf way it was handled. So you are objectively wrong about that. Thanks for the opportunity to correct you on that, lol.

And also for the record, the only thing I begrudge Jerry is his poor results as GM the last 25 years. I happen to think he’s a good father and family man, and clearly an outstanding businessman. But he’s a terrible GM. And I base that not on a grudge, but on the results he has produced on the field.

That is me being completely honest. I don’t know if you are more objective than me. But I do know you’re statement that I hold a grudge against Jerry for the firing of Tom Landry is factually inaccurate.
 

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There is no way to make sense of this season.

Covid with new coaching staff.

Extreme injury issues.

Some of the coaching staff did not even know each other prior to being hired. A new HC can only hire coaches that are available.

Garrett would have just had Zeke ram into the Washington DL all game long despite their DL being one of the best.

Turmoil this season is better than the Garrett MO of close losses and 8-8 or 9-7 seasons with no real chance of true playoff success.
I dont disagree but the fact that they seem to think the fix to all that is multiple fake punts in your own end at the wrong times scares me big time.
 

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I'm one who's okay with losing out for a high 1st round pick. But, I don't want a QB. Just pay Dak. I went back and forth on this and I think he should be paid. I would like Penei Sewell, Patrick Surtain Jr., or Micah Parsons. I'll be happy with either those three.

You can join me and @817Gill in the "trade down from three" clubhouse. Get a high pick and trade down for an extra high #2 pick. Take Surtain or Parsons with the #1 and then a Safety and DT with the 2nd round picks. Sign a veteran Safety FA for good measure and your defense is set.
 

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That is a very un objective and inaccurate statement on your part. I was actually of the opinion Landry needed to go. Never had a problem with his removal other than the tone deaf way it was handled. So you are objectively wrong about that. Thanks for the opportunity to correct you on that, lol.

And also for the record, the only thing I begrudge Jerry is his poor results as GM the last 25 years. I happen to think he’s a good father and family man, and clearly an outstanding businessman. But he’s a terrible GM. And I base that not on a grudge, but on the results he has produced on the field.

That is me being completely honest. I don’t know if you are more objective than me. But I do know you’re statement that I hold a grudge against Jerry for the firing of Tom Landry is factually inaccurate.
I've seen similar statements from you in the past, so I can verify that you're not making this up as a response to his post. I'd also say most Cowboys fans have a similar outlook on Landry's dismissal. Even Jerry has stated regret about the way he handled that.
 

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There is no way to make sense of this season.

Covid with new coaching staff.

Extreme injury issues.

Some of the coaching staff did not even know each other prior to being hired. A new HC can only hire coaches that are available.

Garrett would have just had Zeke ram into the Washington DL all game long despite their DL being one of the best.

Turmoil this season is better than the Garrett MO of close losses and 8-8 or 9-7 seasons with no real chance of true playoff success.
...there it is short and sweet. Done, finito, termine..etc. Lets rock on to 21'.
 

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I have no problem with MM. He'll get min three years from me. Starting to think maybe he's using this year take notes and evaluate since CV19 robbed him of any several months of offseason training. My guess, he will truly start molding the team with his kind of players after the season, especially the D, where we could see as many as 5-6 new starters IMO.

Jerry is 78.

Net worth is north of 8.x Billion USD.

Why would Jerry let big Mike struggle?

Time is short.
 

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Would Landry’s offense have been as bad as Shula’s was that first year of Jimmy Johnson time?
 

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That is a very un objective and inaccurate statement on your part. I was actually of the opinion Landry needed to go. Never had a problem with his removal other than the tone deaf way it was handled. So you are objectively wrong about that. Thanks for the opportunity to correct you on that, lol.

And also for the record, the only thing I begrudge Jerry is his poor results as GM the last 25 years. I happen to think he’s a good father and family man, and clearly an outstanding businessman. But he’s a terrible GM. And I base that not on a grudge, but on the results he has produced on the field.

That is me being completely honest. I don’t know if you are more objective than me. But I do know you’re statement that I hold a grudge against Jerry for the firing of Tom Landry is factually inaccurate.

You avoid the football questions.

You can claim whatever about your take on Jerry/Landry but you've referenced it too many times both directly and indirectly for it not to be a big issue to you.

Fans focus on Jerry when they don't know enough about football to stay focused on actual football details.
 

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That is a very un objective and inaccurate statement on your part. I was actually of the opinion Landry needed to go. Never had a problem with his removal other than the tone deaf way it was handled. So you are objectively wrong about that. Thanks for the opportunity to correct you on that, lol.

And also for the record, the only thing I begrudge Jerry is his poor results as GM the last 25 years. I happen to think he’s a good father and family man, and clearly an outstanding businessman. But he’s a terrible GM. And I base that not on a grudge, but on the results he has produced on the field.

That is me being completely honest. I don’t know if you are more objective than me. But I do know you’re statement that I hold a grudge against Jerry for the firing of Tom Landry is factually inaccurate.

Don't be too upset. Xwalker is one of the few fans here content with 25 years and still no divisional playoff win. He is a Jerry defender to the end, or at least 25 years and counting. But don't say the Cowboys suck or he'll come unglued defending the past 25 seasons.
 

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You avoid the football questions.

You can claim whatever about your take on Jerry/Landry but you've referenced it too many times both directly and indirectly for it not to be a big issue to you.

Fans focus on Jerry when they don't know enough about football to stay focused on actual football details.

Attack the opinions, not the poster. You follow Hazey around throwing shade at every post. If Hazey posts we haven't won a divisional playoff game in 25 years (fact), you will contest it and get your panties in a wad. Move on dude.
 

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You avoid the football questions.

You can claim whatever about your take on Jerry/Landry but you've referenced it too many times both directly and indirectly for it not to be a big issue to you.

Fans focus on Jerry when they don't know enough about football to stay focused on actual football details.
Ha! A very un-objective take on your part X. You obviously don’t know me at all. I’m not interested in telling you what you believe or think any more than I am interested in you telling me what I believe or think. Your opinions here are just that. One guys opinion. And I appreciate you expressing them. You’re a great Cowboys fan. But IMO, it’s foolish to tell fans on a fan forum that they don’t know much about football. Because you actually don’t know that.

I can only speak for myself when I say the bottom line with football for me and Jerry is the W. As in Jerry hasn’t been getting very many. I’m not pretending to be an expert.
 
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