Zeke vs Kamara

[Typhus]

Ridiculous. We had the number one offense last year or was that due to Jason Garrett?

The excuses never stop for zeke, they literally never stop. Coaching, O line, QB, suspension stress, COVID, everything but him, right? There’s not another RB in the league that gets this many excuses, it’s pathetic.

On top of that, then zeke’s supporters use different excuses for why Pollard is doing better than zeke when in reality Pollard should be getting the same excuses as zeke. Unreal.

Ohh,,, I thought he was talking about Pollard

 

[JBond]

But his supporters have compared his TD’s to Gurleys, Barkleys and his other peers as an attempt to tell us why he’s better than them so why is this any different?

For the record, I agree, I think TD’s are over rated and I’ve never used his lack of TD’s to bash him but I have argued with his defenders when they would use TD’s to claim he’s better.

I am a little confused why scoring is over rated. Isn't that the goal? Score points?

 

[Jake]

Got that right, I see your talking about zeke’s draft spot, zeke’s contract and zeke’s production.

The funny thing is, you're mad at Zeke. You complain about him constantly, almost as obsessively as the anti-Dak crowd.

Zeke didn't draft himself and he didn't give himself a ridiculous contract. You can thank your Uncle Jerry for that.

 

[kskboys]

I am a little confused why scoring is over rated. Isn't that the goal? Score points?

Using scoring as an evaluation tool is overrated. That's what he means.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Oh look...ANOTHER Zeke hate thread!

FINALLY...something different for the board! So creative and unique! Finally giving Aria something to post about.

 

[cityochamps]

Saints O-line VS Cowboys O-line???

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

I am a little confused why scoring is over rated. Isn't that the goal? Score points?

There's a lot involved in scoring. So it's about more than just abilities of one player.

It's true for many aspects of the game. For example...Many people cut Dak slack because of consistent terrible field position. Ironically...comically?... not Zeke.

Saints put themselves in position to burn the Vikes with the running game. When has MM and KM ever given us the same positioning? How many games does Zeke get 22 carries?

Our last game the defense and special teams gave the offense what...4 or 5? TO's...but it was said here "Pollard was the difference". When did zeke get 4 TO's in one game this year?

Kamara? Great game. But his two previous games? 11 carries for 50 yards each with 1 TD for both games. Pretty pedestrian there if you ask me.

Zeke haters said "don't give zeke any credit for his ONE good game". But here they are....parading around giving Pollard and Kamara "credit" for one good game.

FYI....loved Pollards game. I think it would be great if he did become the #1 RB. But the double standard and hypocrisy is stupid.

 

[aria]

I'm not saying there is a conspiracy, but a Packers offensive lineman jumped on David Irving's back on that 3rd and 30 play. I mean, he literally jumped on his back and held his arms down. So in between that and the Dez no-catch I feel as if we were cheated.

The picked up flag on our linebacker in the Detroit game was a good call. The Detroit player was stiff-arming our linebacker, so he just knocked his hand of of him. No flag because the offensive player initiated the contact.

So no, I don't think the games are rigged or there is some conspiracy. But when a play is reviewed and they still get it wrong, I feel cheated. The Dez no-catch is a good example of that.

If what happened to Detroit in that game had happened to us then people would still be crying it over it like they are the Dez catch. There were so many penalties that could have been called on Hitchins and when Dez ran out on the field but weren’t, why? Because the Cowboys draw much better ratings than Detroit and the league wanted them to stay in the playoffs instead of the lowly Lions. At least that’s how every other fan who cheers for another team not named the Cowboys see it. I can bring up several times this year that we were the clear beneficiary of calls and non calls but it doesn’t really matter, it happens to every team.

Just as a reminder
https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/1...l-playoffs-results-analysis-referees-bad-call

[URL]https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2320064-nfl-head-of-officiating-speaks-on-controversial-play-in-lions-vs-cowboys[/URL]

 

[aria]

I am a little confused why scoring is over rated. Isn't that the goal? Score points?

Because there are way too many factors that come into play with TD’s. Play calling, coaching, other teammates, position on the field, style of offense, how good the offense is, etc.

 

[Hawkeye19]

This is the result of our genius Kellen Moore,
he doesn't know how to use a talented back .

This is part of the problem. IMO— the production we have seen under Kellen, is only a fraction of what it could be under a more proficient OC. And that is saying a lot considering we have (stats wise) some highly ranked offenses.

Kellen is a good guy, and may be on the rise as an OC— but in terms of innovation and utilizing the assets we have and creating mismatches— he is underwhelming. We need to get a lot more creative overall, and we should flat out be dominant in the red zone with our weapons— but we are far too inconsistent in that arena.

Best case? Kellen goes to Boise and we get a new OC in here to maximize the talent we have

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Because there are way too many factors that come into play with TD’s. Play calling, coaching, other teammates, position on the field, style of offense, how good the offense is, etc.

And there you have part of Zeke's drop off.

 

[Hardline]

If what happened to Detroit in that game had happened to us then people would still be crying it over it like they are the Dez catch. There were so many penalties that could have been called on Hitchins and when Dez ran out on the field but weren’t, why? Because the Cowboys draw much better ratings than Detroit and the league wanted them to stay in the playoffs instead of the lowly Lions. At least that’s how every other fan who cheers for another team not named the Cowboys see it. I can bring up several times this year that we were the clear beneficiary of calls and non calls but it doesn’t really matter, it happens to every team.

Just as a reminder
https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/1...l-playoffs-results-analysis-referees-bad-call
https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/1...l-playoffs-results-analysis-referees-bad-call
https://bleacherreport.com/articles...aks-on-controversial-play-in-lions-vs-cowboys

Lol
If the league gave Dallas the win against Detroit because of the ratings . The NFL would be gifting the Cowboys Super Bowl championships

 

[blumayne38]

Kamaras oline deserves all the credit he just ran behind them while they pushed the pile into the back of the end zone. Our oline gets pushed into daltons/zekes lap.

 

[aria]

Lol
If the league gave Dallas the win against Detroit because of the ratings . The NFL would be gifting the Cowboys Super Bowl championships

Ha....like this over rated talentless roster could ever make the Super Bowl even with the officials help. Goodell could try to hand the Lombardi to jerry and he would manage to screw it up.

 

[exciter]

Yeah, if you think he has, which line do you think measures up to Zeke’s best?

Armstead is a 3 time pro bowler and his sacks and pressures allowed are as good if not better than Tyrons. Peat is 3x pro bowl. Ramstyck was 1st team all pro 19, 2nd team in 18, all rookie 17 and may be best RT in league and could easily slide to the left side. Center Cook was all rookie last season. Easton is 8+ year vet. They have consistently been a top 5 line going back 4or 5 seasons.

 

[Aviano90]

Armstead is a 3 time pro bowler and his sacks and pressures allowed are as good if not better than Tyrons. Peat is 3x pro bowl. Ramstyck was 1st team all pro 19, 2nd team in 18, all rookie 17 and may be best RT in league and could easily slide to the left side. Center Cook was all rookie last season. Easton is 8+ year vet. They have consistently been a top 5 line going back 4or 5 seasons.

Cowboys line has been rated higher than the Saints except for 2018, I believe and this year. Which line do you think has been better than our 2016 line?

 

[blueblood70]

is Kamara playing for the DCs and doing this or is he playing for team with starting OL, better offense coaches that create better run schemes, and Brees back as passing threat and one of the best defenses in the nfc this year means they can play through the run not being down 3 scores al game..

im sick of these comps and hate ion zeke already.. they are one very different backs anyway and secondly can not be compared with the team zeke playing on this season vs Kamara's..just ignorantly pointless posts every time back has big game.. karmas would most likely have been on IOR by now the way KM rins his TBs like Fbs and maes them block all game with little rotation..

let me know when those backs were lining up and splitting snaps with zeke and doing what Kamara just did ON the Dallas Cowboys 2020 team..not going to happen so pointless..

zekes not the issue the team is just bad..

 

[blueblood70]

Kamaras oline deserves all the credit he just ran behind them while they pushed the pile into the back of the end zone. Our oline gets pushed into daltons/zekes lap.

 

[805BoysInBlue]

Zeke runs into the back of the linemen and avoids the open holes better then he avoids covid 19. Kamara is schemed open and a big part of their passing game. Theres no comparison, its not a Kellen Moore issue either, look at how Moore used Pollard last week.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Zeke runs into the back of the linemen and avoids the open holes better then he avoids covid 19. Kamara is schemed open and a big part of their passing game. Theres no comparison, its not a Kellen Moore issue either, look at how Moore used Pollard last week.

So why can't dallas ":Scheme" zeke open?

It's true Zeke has missed a few holes, sure. But why do we have to run him up the gut of a decimated O-line every time? We could "scheme" him out of that once in awhile?