WFT Releases QB Haskins

[QuincyCarterEra]

Apple's to orange's. It was known going into the 2019 draft Haskins was a clown who has benefited from nepotism. That never stopped once Synder drafted him.

You have to take it on a case by case basis and this if you have one don't draft one mentality is ridiculous.

I don't really trust this front office to get anything done competently and Dak fell in their lap. I would be okay with resigning him simply because I know that I have in him and the Jones can't screw up the pick. It would take to move on..

It's actually a good comparison. Apples and oranges doesn't apply at all in this instance.

 

[Motorola]

If a coaching staff and front office actually get behind the kid he could be decent. He had a great last quarter of the season before rivera came in and never once supported the 23 year old.

Haskins was selected for the Commanders by the former GM and HC. When the new order came in , they were not obligated to retain any players on the roster-especially the ones that continually underperform or run afoul of team rules and regulations.

 

[NorthDalal]

Many will not want to hear this but if you watch his OSU film, you see a kid who throws to easy targets. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to say they weren't good or accurate or anything else. I'm saying that if you go to play QB at a school like OSU, you aren't really forced to develop certain skills. You are, more times then not, throwing to the very best WR talent, being protected by the best OL talent, being supported by the best running game and probably playing with a lead because you have the best Defensive talent in the country, most times, rather then playing from behind and that talent goes three deep. You don't learn to throw into tight windows or make quick reads. You get away with mistakes you wouldn't be able to if you played at a school who wasn't as talented.

You kinda see the same thing at Alabama. That's my take on it.

And you see the same thing at Clemson......Trevor.1st round QB picks have always been an expensive crapshoot.

 

[Jipper]

True. I would not be shocked if Alex Smith is forced into action but based on the information I have read I don't know how effective he will be if he plays.

he’s got to be rusty right? And I would imagine any kind of tweak to the calf and he’s going to be off

 

[Hennessy_King]

Nah I got you....

It's the guaranteed money set for life thing vs the idea of maybe being more successful as a long term NFL QB.

Its interesting really and we will never know.

But yeah man gotta be careful about the individual you're dealing with because theoretically any high pick rookie could just mail it in and still be set for life due to the guaranteed money. If Haskins is smart with his cash on hand he wont ever have to play or work again.

He'll be ok he comes from a good family with some decent $$.

 

[Hennessy_King]

Haskins was selected for the Commanders by the former GM and HC. When the new order came in , they were not obligated to retain any players on the roster-especially the ones that continually underperform or run afoul of team rules and regulations.

He was out before he broke any rules or regulations. Go listen to ron rivera before the training camps even got underway. I listen to nfl radio on sirius and he comes on there weekly. The writing was on the wall that haskins was out even if he was a choir boy.

 

[Hennessy_King]

It’s less Dwayne and less Ron.

Haskins gloated about stats after a loss. Was lazy with the playbook and team. Was given multiple chances as starter. Was seen partying after a loss. Stunk yesterday and then had to be made to talk to the media after he disappeared.

Decision was made by Haskins and Haskins only

Where did you find so much misinformation. Are you on the WFT staff? How do you know he was lazy with the playbook?

 

[Hennessy_King]

It's actually a good comparison. Apples and oranges doesn't apply at all in this instance.

Got em!!!

 

[Doomsday101]

he’s got to be rusty right? And I would imagine any kind of tweak to the calf and he’s going to be off

Smith’s injury has been described as a calf strain, but the problem is he doesn’t have as much calf muscle in his right leg as the average person. As Chris Mortensen notes, a portion of Smith’s right calf was relocated as part of the numerous surgeries he had following his devastating leg injury in 2018.

Alex Smith's calf strain is about functionality, more challenging because half that calf was used in the muscle transplant to cover his front leg as chronicled by @Stephania_ESPN in #Project11 on @E60.

— Chris Mortensen (@mortreport) December 27, 2020

That is yet another reminder of everything Smith went through to somehow get back on the field. Every injury he suffers is naturally more concerning, which is why there was such a big reaction when his leg was all bloodied earlier this month.

Any questions about Smith’s toughness have been answered with his multiple surgeries and long road back to playing. He simply has to deal with some things that other players don’t, and his lingering calf issue falls under that umbrella.

 

[Motorola]

Many will not want to hear this but if you watch his OSU film, you see a kid who throws to easy targets. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to say they weren't good or accurate or anything else. I'm saying that if you go to play QB at a school like OSU, you aren't really forced to develop certain skills. You are, more times then not, throwing to the very best WR talent, being protected by the best OL talent, being supported by the best running game and probably playing with a lead because you have the best Defensive talent in the country, most times, rather then playing from behind and that talent goes three deep. You don't learn to throw into tight windows or make quick reads. You get away with mistakes you wouldn't be able to if you played at a school who wasn't as talented.

You kinda see the same thing at Alabama. That's my take on it.

He should have stayed for at least one more season (had two years of eligibility left) but chose to leave after that spectacular 2018 redshirt sophomore.
Does anyone recall a similar situation happening with a Buckeye QB just a few years before Haskins:
Cardale Jones - in 2014, the redshirt sophomore took over for the injured J.T. Barrett after the Michigan game and lead Ohio State to wins in the Big Ten tiltle game, followed by semifinal and championship victories in the first College Football Playoffs. After starting the first eight games of the 2015 season, Jones was benched for Barrett. He then declared for the 2016 NFL after basically being a starting college QB for one season.
Jones' NFL career....
2016: 3rd string QB for the Bills; inactive until the last game of the season.
2017: Traded to the Chargers at end of July
2018: Just before the season started, was waived by the Chargers, then signed to their practice squad.
2019:

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Some of these college stars, think they can still get away with their antics on the NFL Level cause of their talent. In this league, you either produce or you don't. As quick as you can be drafted, you can be out of this league. Nobody is going to feel sorry, when you had a golden ticket and rather act like a child.

Exactly but blue chip talent will buy some time. Something tells me Riveria just didn't see enough to work will. Think about it, they could have easily made this kid inactive for Sunday and released him next Monday. Releasing him today shows how frustrated they were with either him or him and a few others. In other words, this release was just as much about sending a message.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Smith’s injury has been described as a calf strain, but the problem is he doesn’t have as much calf muscle in his right leg as the average person. As Chris Mortensen notes, a portion of Smith’s right calf was relocated as part of the numerous surgeries he had following his devastating leg injury in 2018.

Alex Smith's calf strain is about functionality, more challenging because half that calf was used in the muscle transplant to cover his front leg as chronicled by @Stephania_ESPN in #Project11 on @E60.

— Chris Mortensen (@mortreport) December 27, 2020

That is yet another reminder of everything Smith went through to somehow get back on the field. Every injury he suffers is naturally more concerning, which is why there was such a big reaction when his leg was all bloodied earlier this month.

Any questions about Smith’s toughness have been answered with his multiple surgeries and long road back to playing. He simply has to deal with some things that other players don’t, and his lingering calf issue falls under that umbrella.

Exactly why I don't see him starting. Backup, yes but not starting.......

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

And you see the same thing at Clemson......Trevor.1st round QB picks have always been an expensive crapshoot.

Clemson, no. To me, Clemson is not yet at the point where OSU or Bama are. They are still relatively new to the sensation of being dominant. LOL........

Trevor, he can make pro throws and you see that on tape. In big games, against big comp, he makes the pro throw. See, that's the thing. If you see that and that guy is playing QB at OSU or Bama or whatever other big time program, then he doesn't fit the mold of the QB I am speaking of. He is A typical but that's usually not the rule, it's the exception. Can it happen? Sure, it can happen for sure. Does it happen, not very often recently IMO. Trevor is the highest profile, best prospect coming out. He has all the things you are looking for. He is not my favorite QB prospect coming out but he is the best on everybody's board and he's earned that. If he could go to the right situation, he could be great. Like an all time great but he's probably going to go to Jacksonville and that seems to be one of those teams where QBs go to die. For him, it's all about the situation he goes to because he has all the talent you want. It's just a situation thing for him IMO.

In fact, I actually posted this in another thread. I like Lawrence, Wilson and Lance, all better then I do Fields. But, I could see Fields ending up being the more successful QB in terms of career because he may end up getting drafted to a team who can afford to have him sit and learn. If he ends up going to a talented roster, learning how to play QB in the NFL, he could be the better option. Trevor and Wilson could be going to Jacksonville and the Jets. That's terrible for both of them IMO. Horrible Franchises for QBs historically. I think both of them are better but they could crash and burn in the NFL just because of where they get drafted.

 

[phildadon86]

Never did..

Im just not scared to draft QBs high and risk reward is worth it..

Clearly QBs on rookie deals are having more success then then the Deshaun Watson contract types.

Pay elite guys.. Let’s the tier 3 QBs who want tier 1 money take a hike.

If a QB busts it’s not a big deal like it used to be.

Haskins wasn’t taken because of talent anyways.. He was taken because of position.

He was a solid prospect that busted.. Big deal.. Try again.

How many times have you full out said “the way the draft works top QB prospects rarely bust now.” Dont make me search it. Please.

 

[Johnny23]

It's actually a good comparison. Apples and oranges doesn't apply at all in this instance.

Do you think Jerry and the brainstrust would draft Haskins? Then I would agree with your assessment.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

He should have stayed for at least one more season (had two years of eligibility left) but chose to leave after that spectacular 2018 redshirt sophomore.
Does anyone recall a similar situation happening with a Buckeye QB just a few years before Haskins:
Cardale Jones - in 2014, the redshirt sophomore took over for the injured J.T. Barrett after the Michigan game and lead Ohio State to wins in the Big Ten tiltle game, followed by semifinal and championship victories in the first College Football Playoffs. After starting the first eight games of the 2015 season, Jones was benched for Barrett. He then declared for the 2016 NFL after basically being a starting college QB for one season.
Jones' NFL career....
2016: 3rd string QB for the Bills; inactive until the last game of the season.
2017: Traded to the Chargers at end of July
2018: Just before the season started, was waived by the Chargers, then signed to their practice squad.
2019:

I do. In fact, had a whole blowout over this just a few days ago. It is what it is.

 

[Motorola]

He should have stayed for at least one more season (had two years of eligibility left) but chose to leave after that spectacular 2018 redshirt sophomore.
Does anyone recall a similar situation happening with a Buckeye QB just a few years before Haskins:
Cardale Jones - in 2014, the redshirt sophomore took over for the injured J.T. Barrett after the Michigan game and lead Ohio State to wins in the Big Ten tiltle game, followed by semifinal and championship victories in the first College Football Playoffs. After starting the first eight games of the 2015 season, Jones was benched for Barrett. He then declared for the 2016 NFL after basically being a starting college QB for one season.
Jones' NFL career....
2016: 3rd string QB for the Bills; inactive until the last game of the season.
2017: Traded to the Chargers at end of July
2018: Just before the season started, was waived by the Chargers, then signed to their practice squad.
2019:

2019: Released by the Chargers August 31st; signed by the Seahawks to their practice squad September 2nd; released September 18th.

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

Looks like Haskins can now visit all the strip clubs he wants.

 

[AbeBeta]

you guys are missing the point badly....regardless of whether Heinke would start or not, the football team needs at least 2 qb's on its roster on game day....IF smith was potentially a no go, there is no way they would release Haskins and chance having to grab a qb off the street as the backup....

Umm. Steven Montez is QB3 for ***.

No who is missing the point badly?

Dang, it is funny when people talk crap but are totally wrong!

 

[Jipper]

Umm. Steven Montez is QB3 for ***.

No who is missing the point badly?

Dang, it is funny when people talk crap but are totally wrong!

first off i wasn't talking crap - i was simply stating you all are missing the point that the WFT wouldnt release haskins unless they were confident that smith could go...do you honestly think they would risk the situtation with this Montez guy as back up when the playoffs are on the line?

second off i wasnt aware that washington was carrying 4 qbs on their roster prior to releasing haskins...which is typically not what a team carries on their roster...so i stand corrected

this signals smith is ready to play