Final PFF Grades & Rankings A Season To Forget

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among our LBs, means that they all suck. Jaylon was too many times out of position, late and had too many tackles down field. several key times players ran right by him because he can't cut, or react. he is straight ahead LB and nothing but that at this point. he is physically limited.

PFF, takes all of that in to consideration, when making their rankings.
 

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That’s because you still don’t get it. As you’ve said in previous threads, you don’t care what players make. Well most of is do which is why people still bash LVE but not nearly as much as Jaylon. If he gets paid like Jaylon you can expect the same consistent bashing that Jaylon gets.

In the real world, most people are paid based on performance. In your world, pay and performance aren’t connected.

Not to mention the salary cap issue but you’re not concerned about that either. You don’t care if they throw around money to people who don’t play like they’re being paid to play.

You think zeke would get the same amount of hate from most people if he was getting paid like the 48th RB he was this last season? The answer is no but you still don’t understand that.

*It’s also becoming more obvious what you’re getting at, just a heads up.

Guess you are new around here....Dak was getting 500k around here and got more hate than anyone....so if you think for a second the only reason Jaylon and Zeke gets hate is because of their contract you are sadly mistaken. Their situations are isolated from Dak. Dak played well. These guys are struggling so they get hate. I understand the latter. Their contracts are irrelevant to the discussion. They are not playing good football whether they are getting the vet. minimum or not.

And yes in my world I don't care what a guy gets paid. Like I told you in that other thread I don't want Andy Dalton or Tyrone Crawford for FREE. They suck no matter what they are paid. I think that's the issue you are having.
 

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I actually like Jaylon. His story is incredible and most of these aholes have no clue about what this man went through to play football again. The sad thing is the local media has turned on him and are putting out rumors that he will be released.

I do think there is a drop off in his play from 2018 and wonder if it is because now he has 30+ guaranteed in the bank. Jaylon used to hit real hard. I remember in 2018 if he squared up and hit you it hurt. The Texans and Saints games he would punish the ball carriers. He also moved real fast. I remember him spying on Russell Wilson in the playoffs. He was on him like white on rice. I do wonder if his injury has regressed but I just don’t see the same player.
I don't know what that other poster is talking about I like Jaylon too but not enough to defend how he's playing lol. My stance on him is that he's playing bad but the whole linebacker group is. Linebacker seems to be rough all over the league and we are no exception. I don't know what happened to Jaylon....I can't even pretend like I know man....I wish we could get 2018 Jaylon back but I'm afraid that he's not showing back up. I thought Nolan would get more since he was a linebackers coach in New Orleans........

“Sounds like you are trying to defend the saviors Lee and LVE”

Are you delusional, or does Jaylon really mean so much to you, that you’d willingly sound like an incoherent weirdo while trying to defend him? Did you not read my original comment? I’ve given criticism to both LVE & Lee all year. Everyone has. Lol everyone been calling for Lee’s retirement for the past 3 years. Dude is way past his prime.

“y'all sit on your couch and envy people in better positions then you are and cry about how much "millions" they make”

Actually cringe. I was talking about money in relevancy to his contract. Meaning his play on the field isn’t worth what he’s getting paid. The fact that you wanna make it as if people have personal vendettas with him, when all they’re doing is giving valid criticisms goes to show you’re way too obsessed with the guy.

If you can't decipher between what I'm doing in regards to Jaylon then we can't have a simple discussion. You're too far gone. Call it obsession or whatever but you seem to be the only one who doesn't get "it".
 

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I wish we could move one of the connors to center and draft a stud guard/tackle to play at left guard
 

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I dont think Carr was but you could replace his name with Haha....very odd and I had no issue with free agency this year but what a mess. I recommend this team buying players with draft picks and find a Michael Bennett or Robert Quinn type deals. I want no part or free agency.
I liked the signing except Poe
I thought he was done 2 years ago
But overall I thought we did solid
Didn’t work out that way though
 

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I liked the signing except Poe
I thought he was done 2 years ago
But overall I thought we did solid
Didn’t work out that way though

I was behind the moves but I didn't like that we basically fixed our defensive line with what the Panthers got rid of in Poe and McCoy. I figured Poe was finished he was the least of the moves I liked but he was a big boy so I got behind it.....
 

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I was behind the moves but I didn't like that we basically fixed our defensive line with what the Panthers got rid of in Poe and McCoy. I figured Poe was finished he was the least of the moves I liked but he was a big boy so I got behind it.....
I was excited about McCoy
I’m just glad 2020 is over and we can put it behind us
 

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These are total grades and rankings for the year.

QB: Dak Prescott- 85.2 (8th) Passing grade 80.4 (12th)
Garrett Gilbert- 66.4 not enough snaps to rank
Andy Dalton- 69.6 (24th)
B. Dinucci- 25.6 not enough snaps to rank. 1 spot ahead of Kendall Hinton lol

RB: Zeke- 65.3 (48th)
T. Pollard- 71.3 (32nd)
R. Dowdle- 73.5 not enough snaps to rank

WR: Amari- 75.9 (36th)
MG- 66.3 (80th)
Ceedee- 71.6 (55th)
N Brown- 67.9 not enough snaps to rank
C Wilson- 61.1 not enough snaps to rank

TE: Schultz- 63.9 (40th)
B. Bell- 63.0 (41st)
S. Mckeon- 55.7 not enough snaps to rank

Center: Looney- 50.7 (34th)
Biadasz- 53.5 (33rd)

Guard: Martin- 91.3 (2nd behind Wyatt Teller of CLE)
Williams- 70.6 (13th)
Mcgovern- 61.7 (47th)

Tackle: Tyron Smith- 67.8 not enough snaps to rank
Steele- 50.3 (80th)
B. Knight- 48.5 (82nd second worst ranked tackle)
C. Erving- 58.0 not enough snaps to rank
G Senat- 56.9 not enough snaps to rank

DT: J. Hamilton- 43.0 not enough snaps to rank
A. Woods- 58.3 (86th)
Hill- 33.8 not enough snaps to rank
Ty Craw- 52.6 (103rd)
Gallimore- 52.1 (106th)
J Hamilton- 45.9 (117th)
W Palmore- 31.9 not enough snaps to rank
E Ankou- 42.9 not enough snaps to rank


*D. Poe- 56.8 (90th)

DE: A. Smith- 66.3 (54th)
DLaw- 88.6 (5th)
Armstrong- 56.0 (93rd)
B. Anae- 85.2 not enough snaps to rank
R. Gregory- 80.5 (11th)
R. Carter- 60.5 not enough snaps to rank

*Griffen- 63.2 (64th)

LB: Joe Thomas- 47.6 (69th)
Vander Esch- 50.6 (60th)
Jaylon- 53.8 (50th)
Bernard- 67.1 not enough snaps to rank
Gifford- 58.6 not enough snaps to rank
Snake- 34.8 cut the snake

CB: Chido- 51.9 (98th)
T. Diggs- 62.7 (58th) finished the rookie campaign strong
AB- 54.6 (87th)
J Lew- 48.1 (110th)
Rashard Robinson- 60.3 not enough snaps to rank
Deante Burton- 62.2 not enough snaps to rank
Saivion Smith- 52.1 not enough snaps to rank
C Westry- 44.2 not enough snaps to rank


Safety: X Woods- 65.1 (42nd)
D. Thompson- 41.8 (88th)
Brandon Carr- 54.4 not enough snaps to rank
D. Wilson- 71.1 (19th)
S. Parker- 60.2 not enough snaps to rank
C.J. Wilson- 66.4 not enough snaps to rank

A season to forget.

I saw they ranked the OLs. Where did the total OL finish? In the 20s?
 

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No way there were 39 better TE’s than Schultz this year.
I mean I think you have to actually see the scores of the other 38 guys......without looking I'm sure like 20+ of those guys probably have similar scores to Schultz.....You are going to have the the tier of Kittle and Kelce....under that probably the Waller's and Gesickis and after that is probably where everyone else goes...that tier 3 is probably where most guys are at.
 

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DT: J. Hamilton- 43.0 not enough snaps to rank
A. Woods- 58.3 (86th)
Hill- 33.8 not enough snaps to rank
Ty Craw- 52.6 (103rd)
Gallimore- 52.1 (106th)
J Hamilton- 45.9 (117th)
W Palmore- 31.9 not enough snaps to rank
E Ankou- 42.9 not enough snaps to rank


*D. Poe- 56.8 (90th)

DE: A. Smith- 66.3 (54th)
DLaw- 88.6 (5th)
Armstrong- 56.0 (93rd)
B. Anae- 85.2 not enough snaps to rank
R. Gregory- 80.5 (11th)
R. Carter- 60.5 not enough snaps to rank

*Griffen- 63.2 (64th)

LB: Joe Thomas- 47.6 (69th)
Vander Esch- 50.6 (60th)
Jaylon- 53.8 (50th)
Bernard- 67.1 not enough snaps to rank
Gifford- 58.6 not enough snaps to rank
Snake- 34.8 cut the snake

CB: Chido- 51.9 (98th)
T. Diggs- 62.7 (58th) finished the rookie campaign strong
AB- 54.6 (87th)
J Lew- 48.1 (110th)
Rashard Robinson- 60.3 not enough snaps to rank
Deante Burton- 62.2 not enough snaps to rank
Saivion Smith- 52.1 not enough snaps to rank
C Westry- 44.2 not enough snaps to rank


Safety: X Woods- 65.1 (42nd)
D. Thompson- 41.8 (88th)
Brandon Carr- 54.4 not enough snaps to rank
D. Wilson- 71.1 (19th)
S. Parker- 60.2 not enough snaps to rank
C.J. Wilson- 66.4 not enough snaps to rank

Defense would be helped by a new and better DC, but they really need to look at the Front Office for this unit's poor performance.

We desperately need DT's. This fan base wants to keep propping up Antwaun Woods and Trysten Hill, but they are not NFL caliber starters. Hill is awful. Gallimore is not good either. And the guys they signed off the street or the JAG they traded for were beyond bad.

Tank and Gregory are fine at DE's. They might be elite once they get some help at DT. Aldon Smith came back to earth some; I'd only re-sign him to a short, team-friendly deal. Jerry will like the story of Aldon and probably overpays. Play Bradlee Anae!

Linebackers should concern us all. Unfortunately, too much money and too much of Jerry's ego tied into Jaylon and LVE. I really hope we can add a LB in the 2021 draft. A SAM for now that could step in and replace Jaylon at WILL after 2021, if he doesn't turn things around.

We need a #1 CB. Diggs is all we have there. Chido was a let down, Lewis makes too many mental mistakes. Fans will want to point to Brown's interceptions, but he is not any good either.

Safeties? Been a problem for years. Front Office is stubborn and outright wrong on this position. Go get a good Free Safety wand watch how much it improves the overall coverage.
 

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I was excited about McCoy
I’m just glad 2020 is over and we can put it behind us
As am I....and if theres' some silver lining....at least everything screwed up all at once....what are the odds of Dak getting hurt, offensive line all getting hurt again and the defense being the worst in the league? I figure at least some of it has to let up......I just hope they address defensive line..even though its going to depend on who's even available to begin with.
 

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Defense would be helped by a new and better DC, but they really need to look at the Front Office for this unit's poor performance.

We desperately need DT's. This fan base wants to keep propping up Antwaun Woods and Trysten Hill, but they are not NFL caliber starters. Hill is awful. Gallimore is not good either. And the guys they signed off the street or the JAG they traded for were beyond bad.

Tank and Gregory are fine at DE's. They might be elite once they get some help at DT. Aldon Smith came back to earth some; I'd only re-sign him to a short, team-friendly deal. Jerry will like the story of Aldon and probably overpays. Play Bradlee Anae!

Linebackers should concern us all. Unfortunately, too much money and too much of Jerry's ego tied into Jaylon and LVE. I really hope we can add a LB in the 2021 draft. A SAM for now that could step in and replace Jaylon at WILL after 2021, if he doesn't turn things around.

We need a #1 CB. Diggs is all we have there. Chido was a let down, Lewis makes too many mental mistakes. Fans will want to point to Brown's interceptions, but he is not any good either.

Safeties? Been a problem for years. Front Office is stubborn and outright wrong on this position. Go get a good Free Safety wand watch how much it improves the overall coverage.

To me Woods, Hill and Gallimore aren't the issues. Mind you they addressed that position with Poe and McCoy. That was the true issue. I can live with Woods, Hill and Gallimore being apart of a rotation but I need better starters up front.

I have no issue with Chido. I'd re-sign Chido and address corner again in the draft.
 

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Guess you are new around here....Dak was getting 500k around here and got more hate than anyone....so if you think for a second the only reason Jaylon and Zeke gets hate is because of their contract you are sadly mistaken. Their situations are isolated from Dak. Dak played well. These guys are struggling so they get hate. I understand the latter. Their contracts are irrelevant to the discussion. They are not playing good football whether they are getting the vet. minimum or not.

And yes in my world I don't care what a guy gets paid. Like I told you in that other thread I don't want Andy Dalton or Tyrone Crawford for FREE. They suck no matter what they are paid. I think that's the issue you are having.
That’s ridiculous. Of course I wouldn’t want them for free either but that doesn’t negate over paying for players that underperform. Good thing you’re not a GM, you sound like Jerry “who cares if we over pay for a guy, let’s do it just because.”

Their contracts aren’t irrelevant to the discussion. How many people have you seen say “I don’t want Dak, even if he’s free” vs “I’d like to keep Dak but only at a reasonable price”? I’ve seen a few of the former and many of the latter, why do you think that is?
 
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