NFL All Time QBs: Where Cowboys QBs rank?

[John813]

Marino IMO was a better QB than Brees.

 

[INCowboysFan]

So hard to compare from one era to another. If you plunk Montana or Aikman or Marino into todays game they would absolutely carver up defenses with no fear of being touched in the pocket. Not to mention WR's not having to worry about being assaulted as they go down the field or over the middle. Tom Brady wouldn't still be playing as a 43 year old if this was the 70's or 80's. Same for Drew Brees. Those guys would have taken a beating back in the day and would have retired at 35 or so.

 

[Reverend Conehead]

Landry utilized the Shotgun formation than any other NFL team of that era, he did not create it if that's what you're implying as" brought in"
He used it as a more frequent weapon than the rest of the NFL in that era..

Yes, "brought in" as in he installed it, but didn't invent it.

 

[Motorola]

Where do the Cowboys QBs rank among the Best All time QBs in NFL History:
( * still active)

1) Tom Brady *

2) Joe Montana

3) Peyton Manning

4) Aaron Rodgers*

5) Drew Brees *

6) Dan Marino

7) John Elway

8) Brett Favre

9) Dan Fouts

10) Pat Mahomes *

11 Steve Young

12 Kurt Warner

13) Roger Staubach

14) Terry Bradshaw

15) Ben Rothlisberger

16) Russell Wilson *

17) Jim Kelly

18) Randall Cunningham

19) Troy Aikman

20) Warren Moon

Honorable mention: Tony Romo, Joe Namath, Phillip Rivers, Eli Manning

I listed mine here in according to the ones I've seen play or had research to some extend. Its so really hard to count those I've never seen play or not enough research tools available; ala YA Tittle, Jonny Unitas, Sammy Baugh, Fran Tarketon, Otto Graham, Sid Luckman Bart Starr etc. etc.

'quickccc' - you stated you never seen Fran Tarkenton play---
but the last 10 years of his career are simultaneous with Staubach's 10 of his 11 seasons. Tarkenton played for the Giants and Vikings during the late 60's through the late 70's. From 1969-71 Fran went head-to-head with Roger twice a year with New York, and 6 times with Minnesota from 1972-78.
Tarkenton is in the NFL HOF. Is playing resume` is just as easily available as Staubach's.
If fact all the QBs that played "before your time" - their statistics are attainable.

Here's two places where to go research NFL games, players, and records:
Pro Football Reference
The Football Database

 

[sunalsorises]

both were league MVP's ..and Warner is in the NFL record books.

their credentials make sense, especially Warner. I was never a fan of Warner being in the HOF so maybe I am biased. Cunningham is not a bad choice. I just don’t see him on a lot of all time lists so I was surprised to see him on this one. Philip Rivers is getting a lot or respect now that he is retired. I wonder if he will make his way into either the HOF or some all time lists.

 

[75boyz]

Someone else summed up my feelings on the Brady is the GOAT thread. Brady's numbers speak for themself and he may be the GOAT but Roger was and is my guy.
He is the reason I watch football.

 

[Bobhaze]

Roger Staubach needs to be much higher. Like in the 5-10 range. He won 2 SBs, played in 2 more, won 4 NFC championship games, and won a total of 11 playoff games. Having Brett Favre, Dan Fouts, Steve Young ahead of Roger is crazy. Too many fans over-value stats and not enough value to winning championships and leadership. Every criticism I’ve ever heard of Roger is about stats when teams didn’t throw the ball as much.

My top 10:
1. Tom Brady
2. Joe Montana
3. Peyton Manning
4. John Elway
5. Terry Bradshaw
6. Roger Staubach
7. Aaron Rodgers
8. Dan Marino
9. Drew Brees
10. Pat Mahomes (he will probably be top 3 in 5 more years)

I put Troy around 12-15. Romo? Sorry, not even honorable mention. Loved him but there’s too many QBs that achieved way more.

 

[dfense]

What is Fouts doing on this list at 9?

254 TDs and 242 picks in 15 years. Air Coryell ? Pass heavy offense.

Heck, Romo had 248 TDs and half the picks in the equivalent of 8 full seasons.

I'd also take Cunningham out and put Fran Tarkenton in there. He had 140 more TDs than Randall.

 

[MarcusRock]

Where do the Cowboys QBs rank among the Best All time QBs in NFL History:
( * still active)

1) Tom Brady *

2) Joe Montana

3) Peyton Manning

4) Aaron Rodgers*

5) Drew Brees *

6) Dan Marino

7) John Elway

8) Brett Favre

9) Dan Fouts

10) Pat Mahomes *

11 Steve Young

12 Kurt Warner

13) Roger Staubach

14) Terry Bradshaw

15) Ben Rothlisberger

16) Russell Wilson *

17) Jim Kelly

18) Randall Cunningham

19) Troy Aikman

20) Warren Moon

Honorable mention: Tony Romo, Joe Namath, Phillip Rivers, Eli Manning

I listed mine here in according to the ones I've seen play or had research to some extend. Its so really hard to count those I've never seen play or not enough research tools available; ala YA Tittle, Jonny Unitas, Sammy Baugh, Fran Tarketon, Otto Graham, Sid Luckman Bart Starr etc. etc.

Good effort even putting this together. Notice the tons of whining but almost no counter-lists. Lol.

 

[cowboyec]

where do Cowboys rank??????
#1

'Merica.

 

[quickccc]

'quickccc' - you stated you never seen Fran Tarkenton play---
but the last 10 years of his career are simultaneous with Staubach's 10 of his 11 seasons. Tarkenton played for the Giants and Vikings during the late 60's through the late 70's. From 1969-71 Fran went head-to-head with Roger twice a year with New York, and 6 times with Minnesota from 1972-78.
Tarkenton is in the NFL HOF. Is playing resume` is just as easily available as Staubach's.
If fact all the QBs that played "before your time" - their statistics are attainable.

Here's two places where to go research NFL games, players, and records:
Pro Football Reference
The Football Database

I like research tools that offer me more the chance of the actual eye ball test, rather than just stats, records,..

I believe more in what I can see in a full game and game to game sense capacity. .

 

[cowboyec]

☆1.Roger Staubach
☆2.Troy Aikman
☆3.Don Meredith

you fill in the rest.

 

[quickccc]

Roger Staubach needs to be much higher. Like in the 5-10 range. He won 2 SBs, played in 2 more, won 4 NFC championship games, and won a total of 11 playoff games. Having Brett Favre, Dan Fouts, Steve Young ahead of Roger is crazy. Too many fans over-value stats and not enough value to winning championships and leadership. Every criticism I’ve ever heard of Roger is about stats when teams didn’t throw the ball as much.

My top 10:
1. Tom Brady
2. Joe Montana
3. Peyton Manning
4. John Elway
5. Terry Bradshaw
6. Roger Staubach
7. Aaron Rodgers
8. Dan Marino
9. Drew Brees
10. Pat Mahomes (he will probably be top 3 in 5 more years)

I put Troy around 12-15. Romo? Sorry, not even honorable mention. Loved him but there’s too many QBs that achieved way more.

Brace yourself because whether he is a first time HOF ballot call and 2nd, the HOF voters are gonna toss Romo is the HOF ballot casting because: .. he is a popular Cowboys player,
he's a national media darling, and now the most popular NFL color analysis broadcaster so his voice and face will be right door next to any HOF voters, once he's eligible.

 

[Motorola]

I like research tools that offer me more of the actual eye ball test, rather than just stats, records
I believe more in what I can see in a full game and game to game sense capacity. .

What do you mean --"actual eyeball test". ? If you mean film highlights and game footage -they are out there too.
BTW --did you see Staubach play live?

 

[Ranching]

Where do the Cowboys QBs rank among the Best All time QBs in NFL History:
( * still active)

1) Tom Brady *

2) Joe Montana

3) Peyton Manning

4) Aaron Rodgers*

5) Drew Brees *

6) Dan Marino

7) John Elway

8) Brett Favre

9) Dan Fouts

10) Pat Mahomes *

11 Steve Young

12 Kurt Warner

13) Roger Staubach

14) Terry Bradshaw

15) Ben Rothlisberger

16) Russell Wilson *

17) Jim Kelly

18) Randall Cunningham

19) Troy Aikman

20) Warren Moon

Honorable mention: Tony Romo, Joe Namath, Phillip Rivers, Eli Manning

I listed mine here in according to the ones I've seen play or had research to some extend. Its so really hard to count those I've never seen play or not enough research tools available; ala YA Tittle, Jonny Unitas, Sammy Baugh, Fran Tarketon, Otto Graham, Sid Luckman Bart Starr etc. etc.

Where's Dinucci! Where's Dalton? @PAPPYDOG is gonna be mad that you left out the Red Rider!!!

 

[JJHLH1]

1. Brady (33 playoff wins)
2. Montana (16 playoff wins)
3. Elway (14 playoff wins)
4. Payton Manning (14 playoff wins)
5. Bradshaw (14 playoff wins)
6. Staubach (11 playoff wins)
7. Marino (8 playoff wins)
8. Rodgers (11 playoff wins)
9. Aikman (11 playoff wins)
10. Mahomes (6 playoff wins)

Mahomes will likely keep ascending and eventually wind up second on the list.

 

[sean10mm]

1. Brady (33 playoff wins)
2. Montana (16 playoff wins)
3. Elway (14 playoff wins)
4. Payton Manning (14 playoff wins)
5. Bradshaw (14 playoff wins)
6. Staubach (11 playoff wins)
7. Marino (8 playoff wins)
8. Rodgers (11 playoff wins)
9. Aikman (11 playoff wins)
10. Mahomes (6 playoff wins)

Mahomes will likely keep ascending and eventually wind up second on the list.

Mahomes has the problem of being kind of injury prone. Not catastrophically or anything, but he's very young and has been dinged up a lot already.

 

[pete026]

Roger Staubach needs to be much higher. Like in the 5-10 range. He won 2 SBs, played in 2 more, won 4 NFC championship games, and won a total of 11 playoff games. Having Brett Favre, Dan Fouts, Steve Young ahead of Roger is crazy. Too many fans over-value stats and not enough value to winning championships and leadership. Every criticism I’ve ever heard of Roger is about stats when teams didn’t throw the ball as much.

My top 10:
1. Tom Brady
2. Joe Montana
3. Peyton Manning
4. John Elway
5. Terry Bradshaw
6. Roger Staubach
7. Aaron Rodgers
8. Dan Marino
9. Drew Brees
10. Pat Mahomes (he will probably be top 3 in 5 more years)

I put Troy around 12-15. Romo? Sorry, not even honorable mention. Loved him but there’s too many QBs that achieved way more.

Staubach also missed 4 prime years (age 27-30) while serving in the Navy then only played for 7 years after that.

Can you imagine how much better he could have been and how many more stats/wins he could have amassed if he played football full time? It would obviously depend on his takeover of Morton.

But he did miss some possible great years, statistically speaking.

 

[Captain-Crash]

Roger Staubach needs to be much higher. Like in the 5-10 range. He won 2 SBs, played in 2 more, won 4 NFC championship games, and won a total of 11 playoff games. Having Brett Favre, Dan Fouts, Steve Young ahead of Roger is crazy. Too many fans over-value stats and not enough value to winning championships and leadership. Every criticism I’ve ever heard of Roger is about stats when teams didn’t throw the ball as much.

My top 10:
1. Tom Brady
2. Joe Montana
3. Peyton Manning
4. John Elway
5. Terry Bradshaw
6. Roger Staubach
7. Aaron Rodgers
8. Dan Marino
9. Drew Brees
10. Pat Mahomes (he will probably be top 3 in 5 more years)

I put Troy around 12-15. Romo? Sorry, not even honorable mention. Loved him but there’s too many QBs that achieved way more.

looks good, I too was thinking they overlooked Bradshaw.

 

[Whirlwin]

Where do the Cowboys QBs rank among the Best All time QBs in NFL History:
( * still active)

1) Tom Brady *

2) Joe Montana

3) Peyton Manning

4) Aaron Rodgers*

5) Drew Brees *

6) Dan Marino

7) John Elway

8) Brett Favre

9) Dan Fouts

10) Pat Mahomes *

11 Steve Young

12 Kurt Warner

13) Roger Staubach

14) Terry Bradshaw

15) Ben Rothlisberger

16) Russell Wilson *

17) Jim Kelly

18) Randall Cunningham

19) Troy Aikman

20) Warren Moon

Honorable mention: Tony Romo, Joe Namath, Phillip Rivers, Eli Manning

I listed mine here in according to the ones I've seen play or had research to some extend. Its so really hard to count those I've never seen play or not enough research tools available; ala YA Tittle, Jonny Unitas, Sammy Baugh, Fran Tarketon, Otto Graham, Sid Luckman Bart Starr etc. etc.

Roger Staubach is way better than Mahomes.