The five P's of team success

acr731

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In Jerry's world all he cares about is green, and I'm not talking about green Peas. And a house full of J.W.B.

Oh, he like Prostitutes too...
 

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Imo, the hc is the key. GM's are bean counters. Their job is salary cap management. It was Andy reid who vetted and drafted mahomey. Gutsy thing to do considering the texas tech qb history in the nfl. In retail, it's location, location, location. In the nfl, it's coaching, coaching, coaching. I don't think Mac's that guy.

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Coach, outstanding post.
I’ll add a few other p’s to what our current leaders are doing:
  • Pillage- as in pillaging the fans pockets for tickets, parking, concessions and merchandise. seriously this is what the food, beverage, utility, and cost of goods busness do to us as they are necessitys. somehow you want us to believe that fans do not have choice to not go as they can watch on tv for nearly nothing? yet they fill those parking lots and seats in normal years ie full sellouts..
  • Pope- Jerry is the football equivalent of the Pope- in place and in the job until death. maybe his ego led him to that for decade but we saw many changes and this narrative no longer applies as SJ, MCclay and others now share a more democratic process for all decsions. but keep posting redundant narratives even though they do not apply in the current FO.
  • Pain- as in what long suffering Cowboys fans have endured for a quarter century waiting on at least a divisional playoff win. again being fan is choice if you call this suffering im betting you have your priority's mixed up because sports in general is not life priority and if it hurts so deeply, switch teams or stop following sports.
  • Patience- what is required in large quantities for our fans to keep the faith. Keep the faith ;like the other one above Pain , seriously , patience sure but look at franchises who waited for their first one, you saying Eagles fans who finally after 60 years got Lombardi one have not suffered more as we are waiting for #6 3 of which Jones brought here which is one more then Landrys teams, so they must be better fans? it took KC 50 years between titles, are they better fans because they waited and finally got one..many sports franchises have droughts, at least some like ours have multiples to sit on and keep memorys while they wait. if you dont have the wherewithal to wait for our 6th title maybe give it up, look elsewhere for whatever it is you are missing being a Dallas Cowboy Fan. weak minded induvials need outside sources to find happiness and not allow a sports team give them pain.. :) im as irritated as anyone here but as realist it could be far worse..all the bragging by Browns fans who BTW took 15 yeras to make playoff appearnce, havent won division in 25 etc etc and also Bills how ong 25-30years between playoff wins now all puffy over this new found run..Bucs 15 years between playoff appearances? oh now their poop dont stink? i remember the jags little run that faltered quick, they seemed happy and content...meh DCFFL here ill wait as long as needed with little more dignity then some of you bashing your owners, players, and pretty much anything else about your teams they can find to cry about..
hey more power to you
 

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People - this is the most critical step for the owner must decide what he wants his team to be and who are the people best qualified to achieve that. Just wanting to win a trophy isn't enough. He must hire the best GM to build that team and must be able to develop a thorough plan to get there.

Planning - isn't a year to year exercise. Planning takes methodical attention to detail and monitoring to make certain evert act, every coach, every player adheres to the plan. The planning stage should be with just the owner and GM and the following stage is back to people to execute the plan. The HC must buy into the plan or be able to convince the owner and GM of a better plan. They must all be of one mind and every move filtered through the plan. The HC should fit the plan before he is ever hired.

Patience - should be built into the plan with a timeline to achieve the goal and progress monitored more than end result; although, many well laid plans achieve success ahead of schedule. Patience requires full belief in the plan, without that the lack of patience will derail the plan.

Perseverance - every good plan has pitfalls and those cannot be allowed to derail the plan. Flexibility to go around what you cannot go through, and not deviate from the plan, is key. Some plans are achieved just because of perseverance.

Preparation - this is the trickiest part, after people, because preparation does not mean just to be ready to execute the plan but to be prepared for when the plan begins to drift off target. Injuries, turnover of those hired to help implement the plan and unforeseen potholes should not only be anticipated but prepared for in advance so the least amount of time is spent on reaction to the event and focused on overcoming it. Sticking to the plan takes preparation.

All seems rather simplistic and duh, doesn't it? Because it is. Unless the owner has no plan or an unworkable plan, then everything done is to achieve failure because failure was within the plan.

Want to know why this franchise has done so little in 25 years? All begins with that first P, People, the owner and GM do not have each other to keep them on the plan so the owner/GM spends his time preparing for another plan. Plans built upon failed plans.
You stole this off a poster at the unemployment office, didn't you?
 

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The GM hires the coach.
Not always. Sometimes the coach is hired first. It's not at all uncommon. In fact, shanahan was very instrumental in hiring lynch with thr 49ers. The panthers hired matt rhule, fired their gm and are looking for another. The egg came before the chicken.
 
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People - this is the most critical step for the owner must decide what he wants his team to be and who are the people best qualified to achieve that. Just wanting to win a trophy isn't enough. He must hire the best GM to build that team and must be able to develop a thorough plan to get there.

Planning - isn't a year to year exercise. Planning takes methodical attention to detail and monitoring to make certain evert act, every coach, every player adheres to the plan. The planning stage should be with just the owner and GM and the following stage is back to people to execute the plan. The HC must buy into the plan or be able to convince the owner and GM of a better plan. They must all be of one mind and every move filtered through the plan. The HC should fit the plan before he is ever hired.

Patience - should be built into the plan with a timeline to achieve the goal and progress monitored more than end result; although, many well laid plans achieve success ahead of schedule. Patience requires full belief in the plan, without that the lack of patience will derail the plan.

Perseverance - every good plan has pitfalls and those cannot be allowed to derail the plan. Flexibility to go around what you cannot go through, and not deviate from the plan, is key. Some plans are achieved just because of perseverance.

Preparation - this is the trickiest part, after people, because preparation does not mean just to be ready to execute the plan but to be prepared for when the plan begins to drift off target. Injuries, turnover of those hired to help implement the plan and unforeseen potholes should not only be anticipated but prepared for in advance so the least amount of time is spent on reaction to the event and focused on overcoming it. Sticking to the plan takes preparation.

All seems rather simplistic and duh, doesn't it? Because it is. Unless the owner has no plan or an unworkable plan, then everything done is to achieve failure because failure was within the plan.

Want to know why this franchise has done so little in 25 years? All begins with that first P, People, the owner and GM do not have each other to keep them on the plan so the owner/GM spends his time preparing for another plan. Plans built upon failed plans.
I thought at least one of them would be Punt but I guess I was wrong :grin:
 

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Imo, the hc is the key. GM's are bean counters. Their job is salary cap management. It was Andy reid who vetted and drafted mahomey. Gutsy thing to do considering the texas tech qb history in the nfl. In retail, it's location, location, location. In the nfl, it's coaching, coaching, coaching. I don't think Mac's that guy.
Under the present circumstances, I do not think "that guy" exists. There's another P, Power, and I do not think Booger is capable of giving that up.

Do you think a coach like Reid is going to subject his game plan to his GM each week? Think Kraft and his son, after going over the stock market report, peruse Belichick's game plan and give him the thumbs up or down?

If Matt LaFleur subjected his, they missed that going for a FG with 2 minutes left in the game.
 

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Under the present circumstances, I do not think "that guy" exists. There's another P, Power, and I do not think Booger is capable of giving that up.

Do you think a coach like Reid is going to subject his game plan to his GM each week? Think Kraft and his son, after going over the stock market report, peruse Belichick's game plan and give him the thumbs up or down?

If Matt LaFleur subjected his, they missed that going for a FG with 2 minutes left in the game.
I agree. That is why i downplay the importance of GM's. And why i say GM's aren't the best guys to hire hc's. I've gotten to where i enjoy the cowboys demise. Anything to rub it in Jerry's face. He deserves that.
 

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Paycheck - Our team doesn’t get out of bed without one. Cabo?

Pathetic, Pompous, Paltry - Jerry Jones

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People - this is the most critical step for the owner must decide what he wants his team to be and who are the people best qualified to achieve that. Just wanting to win a trophy isn't enough. He must hire the best GM to build that team and must be able to develop a thorough plan to get there.

Planning - isn't a year to year exercise. Planning takes methodical attention to detail and monitoring to make certain every act, every coach, every player adheres to the plan. The planning stage should be with just the owner and GM and the following stage is back to people to execute the plan. The HC must buy into the plan or be able to convince the owner and GM of a better plan. They must all be of one mind and every move filtered through the plan. The HC should fit the plan before he is ever hired.

Patience - should be built into the plan with a timeline to achieve the goal and progress monitored more than end result; although, many well laid plans achieve success ahead of schedule. Patience requires full belief in the plan, without that the lack of patience will derail the plan.

Perseverance - every good plan has pitfalls and those cannot be allowed to derail the plan. Flexibility to go around what you cannot go through, and not deviate from the plan, is key. Some plans are achieved just because of perseverance.

Preparation - this is the trickiest part, after people, because preparation does not mean just to be ready to execute the plan but to be prepared for when the plan begins to drift off target. Injuries, turnover of those hired to help implement the plan and unforeseen potholes should not only be anticipated but prepared for in advance so the least amount of time is spent on reaction to the event and focused on overcoming it. Sticking to the plan takes preparation.

All seems rather simplistic and duh, doesn't it? Because it is. Unless the owner has no plan or an unworkable plan, then everything done is to achieve failure because failure was within the plan.

Want to know why this franchise has done so little in 25 years? All begins with that first P, People, the owner and GM do not have each other to keep them on the plan so the owner/GM spends his time preparing for another plan. Plans built upon failed plans.

I got only 2 Ps for success:

PFire JJ
PFire SJ
 
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