What makes me chuckle about the QB situation

[CowboyRoy]

It just weakens his position. It was a pretty gruesome injury and there's no guarantee everything goes back to normal. Chances are he'll be fine. But if you're looking at it objectively, you'd be more hesitant to spend money on something that's been recently damaged

not in jones case. I doubt it has an affect on negotiations or price.

 

[TwistedL0g1k]

I don't know exactly where Dak fits into the spectrum between running QB's and pocket passers. That said, running QB's don't last as long in the NFL as pocket passers. Shades of grey here to be sure.... But yeah- market value. Sucks to see one single player command such a high percentage of a team's cap space!

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Both the Eagles and the Rams did it and are now paying out the nose for it. The Rams had to give up a first round draft pick for the Lions to accept him and his ridiculous contract. The Eagles are trying desperately to dump Wentz because of his ridiculous contract. So, you are telling us we have to make the same mistake as the Eagles and Rams now since we didn't make the same mistake two years ago?

Maybe the Cowboys didn't make a mistake two years ago and Dak isn't all that. Maybe there are almost just as good options at a fraction of the cap-killing cost Dak is demanding. Maybe the Cowboys did not sign Dak because his demands were ridiculous.

You missed my point. ITs not about whether or not we should sign Dak. I'm saying we know the Cowboys want to re-sign him right? We know they want to bring him back? We know they valued him enough to franchise tag him last season......so knowing that the mistake was not re-signing him earlier. Re-signing him was always going to happen. Jerry is running this team. We saw it with Zeke. He'd rather look like a idiot for giving a guy too much money than losing him.

Jerry has showed us for 25 years who he is. I do not understand for the life of me why fans still don't get him or understand how he runs this franchise lol.

If the Cowboys don't want Dak than fair enough. I find it laughable you think they don't want Dak but never traded him to get draft compensation for them. This is really funny to me lol.

 

[TwoCentPlain]

You missed my point. ITs not about whether or not we should sign Dak. I'm saying we know the Cowboys want to re-sign him right? We know they want to bring him back? We know they valued him enough to franchise tag him last season......so knowing that the mistake was not re-signing him earlier. Re-signing him was always going to happen. Jerry is running this team. We saw it with Zeke. He'd rather look like a idiot for giving a guy too much money than losing him.

Jerry has showed us for 25 years who he is. I do not understand for the life of me why fans still don't get him or understand how he runs this franchise lol.

If the Cowboys don't want Dak than fair enough. I find it laughable you think they don't want Dak but never traded him to get draft compensation for them. This is really funny to me lol.

Jerry and the Cowboys do not want to get rid of Dak. Jerry and the Cowboys want to sign Dak to a contract which will allow the team to field him enough talent to win a SB. They can't do that if they pay Day $35-40M. Jerry has already said that. Jerry has already said that the Dallas QB job comes with guaranteed endorsement money which should be factored into the contract. Dak apparently does not agree. The Cowboys made Dak a fair offer. Dak did not sign. Now Dak's value has dropped due to injury and not being able to pass a physical.

The team sat on Dak to see what they had paying him $30M+. We saw what the team had with Dak at $30M+ the first 5 games. One victory on paper against Atlanta (actually a loss), three losses, and an incomplete against the winless Giants. Just can't win with Dak making over $30M. He needs too many perfect pieces to succeed.

 

[SoupcanSam]

I'd like to know what Stafford and Watson, the two extremely expensive darlings of the week, have accomplished that Prescott hasn't.

If the knock on Dak is lack of postseason success, why not the same for the others?

Why should the cowboys FO be as stupid as everyone else is? So just because a few mediocre QBs got a bag that means the cowboys should dish it out also? I dont think so.

 

[SoupcanSam]

Look, when it comes to what Dak should be paid or what he shouldn't...its irrelevant. ITs about what the Cowboys are willing to pay him. And he's going to get paid. I get the logic behind what you're saying. He's coming off a injury....he should play on a friendly deal...in a perfect world he gives us a home discount.

But let's real discuss the topic at hand here.......

This deal should've been done long ago. Dak should've been re-signed before Wentz and Goff. They didn't do it so now they pay for it. In the NFL or sports for the matter you don't get rewarded for incompetence. You rarely do. So the Cowboys screwed up on not signing him earlier? They have to pay that price now or let him walk. ITs that simple. There's no easier way to do this or no cheaper.

Imo the cowboys have not lost out on nothing. It would have been bad had they signed him and the injury had occurred. Then his future being a toss up really becomes a bad deal.

If dak believes he should stay the course on what he should be paid then he is crazy.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Jerry and the Cowboys do not want to get rid of Dak. Jerry and the Cowboys want to sign Dak to a contract which will allow the team to field him enough talent to win a SB. They can't do that if they pay Day $35-40M. Jerry has already said that. Jerry has already said that the Dallas QB job comes with guaranteed endorsement money which should be factored into the contract. Dak apparently does not agree. The Cowboys made Dak a fair offer. Dak did not sign. Now Dak's value has dropped due to injury and not being able to pass a physical.

The team sat on Dak to see what they had paying him $30M+. We saw what the team had with Dak at $30M+ the first 5 games. One victory on paper against Atlanta (actually a loss), three losses, and an incomplete against the winless Giants. Just can't win with Dak making over $30M. He needs too many perfect pieces to succeed.

How many perfect pieces were around him in 2016?

You are still arguing over what you would do over what Jerry will actually do. I just don’t know what to say other than you clearly don’t know Jerry.

 

[Bigdog]

I'd like to know what Stafford and Watson, the two extremely expensive darlings of the week, have accomplished that Prescott hasn't.

If the knock on Dak is lack of postseason success, why not the same for the others?

What have they accomplish that Dak hasn’t you ask? A new contract.

 

[SoupcanSam]

only fans in denial are trolls like you. Dak has made a complete mockery out of your grossly inaccurate predictions on how great of a qb he has become.

And you will be dead wrong again as dak is the text book example of a hard working leader that will do everything possible to make sure he is 100%.

Dak isnt going anywhere. All your crying about it won’t change that.

I am trying to figure out which crystal ball did you purchase from Amazon? Did yours come with prime?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Imo the cowboys have not lost out on nothing. It would have been bad had they signed him and the injury had occurred. Then his future being a toss up really becomes a bad deal.

If dak believes he should stay the course on what he should be paid then he is crazy.

If they let Dak walk then yes they didn’t really lose out. But do you think for one second the same team that overpaid Jaylon Smith, Amari Cooper, Zeke and Demarcus Lawrence are gonna now all of a sudden sign their own free agent for a fair price lol?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I'd like to know what Stafford and Watson, the two extremely expensive darlings of the week, have accomplished that Prescott hasn't.

If the knock on Dak is lack of postseason success, why not the same for the others?

Not a damn thing. Dak ain’t never went 4-12 that’s for sure.

 

[SoupcanSam]

not in jones case. I doubt it has an affect on negotiations or price.

Jerry didnt even want to po at dak when he was healthy! If you believe anything that fool says you need to see a doctor.

 

[Ranched]

if this guy will even be able to play the same, consistently on two feet.

if dak is stubborn and disregarding his injury situation, then he can go elsewhere

 

[aikemirv]

I don't know exactly where Dak fits into the spectrum between running QB's and pocket passers. That said, running QB's don't last as long in the NFL as pocket passers. Shades of grey here to be sure.... But yeah- market value. Sucks to see one single player command such a high percentage of a team's cap space!

He is a pocket passer!

 

[Brax]

Both the Eagles and the Rams did it and are now paying out the nose for it. The Rams had to give up a first round draft pick for the Lions to accept him and his ridiculous contract. The Eagles are trying desperately to dump Wentz because of his ridiculous contract. So, you are telling us we have to make the same mistake as the Eagles and Rams now since we didn't make the same mistake two years ago?

Maybe the Cowboys didn't make a mistake two years ago and Dak isn't all that. Maybe there are almost just as good options at a fraction of the cap-killing cost Dak is demanding. Maybe the Cowboys did not sign Dak because his demands were ridiculous.

Didn’t you hear Dak walks on water and turns water into wine. Let’s pay him 50 million a year for 5 years and get ahead of the curve. Hopefully he can deliver another play off win in that time.

 

[aikemirv]

How many perfect pieces were around him in 2016?

You are still arguing over what you would do over what Jerry will actually do. I just don’t know what to say other than you clearly don’t know Jerry.

The 2016 team was very solid. Oline was still playing at a high level and 3 good WR’s and a great running game. If you don’t think the 2016 was a great team for a rookie QB to play with then you are misremembering

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

The 2016 team was very solid. Oline was still playing at a high level and 3 good WR’s and a great running game. If you don’t think the 2016 was a great team for a rookie QB to play with then you are misremembering

I remember that the same team went 4-12 a year prior.....I also remember that most of those weapons were out of the league a year or two later. Witten, Dez, Terrance Williams, Brice Butler....gone not even a full 2 years later. Zeke and Beasley were nice but we aren’t talking about the best I. The league at any position.

 

[black label]

transmission ankles ok bra rofl

 

[Proof]

Alot of fans are saying what dak will do and that dak deserves to be paid etc. Truth is we dont even know if the guy will even be the same and we are up here talking like he just completed a whole season uninjured.

I feel alot of fans are in denial about Dak and talking about his situation as if nothing has happened is just not normal.

Saying what dak deserves before injury is normal. Saying that dak deserves the same after a horrific injury is just insane, not knowing if this guy will even be able to play the same, consistently on two feet.

Imo dak is not worth what he was healthy and I think it is fair for dak to know that not only are the cowboys taking a risk, but they deserve a discounted wait & see approach with this situation.

And if dak is stubborn and disregarding his injury situation, then he can go elsewhere and allow another team to risk wasting time and money on a hope.

All of the "dak price just went up" is crazy talk. Imo there is nothing wrong with not risking dak this off season. And even if dak does pan out, cmon, we know that dak has hit his ceiling, so what are we really paying for? Not much.

You could’ve saved a ton of time just saying you don’t like Dak lol

 

[Proof]

I'd like to know what Stafford and Watson, the two extremely expensive darlings of the week, have accomplished that Prescott hasn't.

If the knock on Dak is lack of postseason success, why not the same for the others?

well they also haven’t suffered serious inju- nevermind