The Two Year Plan

CowboyRoy

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Dak isn't a top 5 QB. That's the type of echo chamber thinking that has locked Jerry into overpaying players and then immediately regretting it time and time again. Overestimating Cowboys players has locked all of us on this treadmill of mediocrity we have been on for the past 25 years.

Regardless, the current incarnation of the team is going to be completely shot within the next 2 to 3 years. You might as well plan for it.

Dak wants a short contract to take advantage of future increases in the cap. Well, give it to him with the agreement that the deal is cap friendly so you can maximize the team in the short term. Its silly to give him a much bigger salary just to lock him up longer.

If it all works out, there is nothing stopping Dallas from keeping Dak in a few years as I said.
Defense has locked us into mediocrity. Our top 5 qb is the best player on the team.

Any notion of not paying your top 5 qb in his prime is total stupidity and will never happen. Crying about it won’t change anything. It just makes trolls like you look more dumb than dak has already made you look.
 

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Defense has locked us into mediocrity. Our top 5 qb is the best player on the team.

Any notion of not paying your top 5 qb in his prime is total stupidity and will never happen. Crying about it won’t change anything. It just makes trolls like you look more dumb than dak has already made you look.

If you go back historically, the Cowboys got bad as soon as Aikman's big cap hit kicked in. The last time Dallas won a super bowl, Aikman took up 6.7% of the cap. Romo's big extension functionally killed the team and its carryover actually hurt the Cowboys for Dak's first two years in Dallas. Overpaying QB's has consistently hurt the Cowboys and it frequently shows up on the defensive side of the ball.

Regardless, you are the Eagle fan here EagleRoy. You have been on the warpath for years trying to push the organization to do dumb *** stuff. Its cute and all that you put "Cowboy" in your name to hide the fact that you are just a troll trying to get the Cowboys to make the same mistake your Eagles did with Wentz. We all see through it though. Go back to your Eagles board.

You aren't a real fan. You are just a troll here to insult people and giggle at the Cowboys' struggles.
 

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There is a lot of discussion about what the team should do going forward, obviously. IMO a lot of it isn't based in reality. Mostly due to contracts.

Some things to consider:
- McCarthy just got a huge contract and isn't going to be fired after 1 year.
- Zeke, Jaylon and Tank have a lot of guaranteed money left and even if you cut them, it leaves a hole with no cap gained.
- Dallas' offensive line is older but isn't going to be super easy to replace. Also, they are on pretty good contracts for this day and age . . . if they could stay healthy.

Given these realities, I would give Dak exactly what he wanted. He wanted a 4 year deal ending in 2023 last year. Give him a 3 year deal ending in 2023 this year. If you have to overpay him to do it, fine. Restructure contracts to fit everyone but don't extend anyone past 2023.

Then draft defense. A lot of defense.

You basically give the current core 2 years. Hope that you can fix the defense with the draft and that you get lucky with health, particularly on the o-line.

If after 2 years, it doesn't work and Dallas is still mired in mediocrity, you fire McCarthy and start cutting all of these players who's contracts will be near expiring. Trade Dak with 1 year left on his deal to a team looking for a QB to make a run. The team could then start fresh with high draft picks, a new coach and a clean cap.

I'm not sure it works but a rebuild now or even a new QB is just messy. Dallas is somewhat tied to this group so you might as well make the most of it.

I would not try to force Dak to take a 5 year deal and give him a ridiculous amount of money to do it. That would just make it harder to put together a team now and you would be tied to a 30 some year old QB in the middle of a rebuild in a few years. If you want to extend Dak in 3 years, go ahead.
A 3 year deal is a cap killer
The reason Jerry wants 5 is to get some cheaper years up front
 

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A 3 year deal is a cap killer
The reason Jerry wants 5 is to get some cheaper years up front
ALMOST makes me wonder if Dak wants to be here if he keeps pushing this 3 or 4 year crap. He fully is aware that a 3 year deal would cripple us. Seems like a power play by a vengeful agent....not Dak.
 

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Yeah and give up 2 firsts and continue trotting out the same filth we had at defence this year. GREAT PLAN!

I think they had to give up more picks because of Goffs contract.

At least that's what i've heard.
 

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If you go back historically, the Cowboys got bad as soon as Aikman's big cap hit kicked in. The last time Dallas won a super bowl, Aikman took up 6.7% of the cap. Romo's big extension functionally killed the team and its carryover actually hurt the Cowboys for Dak's first two years in Dallas. Overpaying QB's has consistently hurt the Cowboys and it frequently shows up on the defensive side of the ball.

Regardless, you are the Eagle fan here EagleRoy. You have been on the warpath for years trying to push the organization to do dumb *** stuff. Its cute and all that you put "Cowboy" in your name to hide the fact that you are just a troll trying to get the Cowboys to make the same mistake your Eagles did with Wentz. We all see through it though. Go back to your Eagles board.

You aren't a real fan. You are just a troll here to insult people and giggle at the Cowboys' struggles.

More lies and dumb analysis. Delete your account. You dont belong on a football forum or on a Cowboys fan forum. Go on over to an Eagles forum, I have no doubt they will laugh you off the board over there even with the dumb things you say about Dak.

Eagles fans no doubt have more respect for out top 5 QB then a troll like you does. Eagles fans clearly arent as dumb as some fan are on here. Give it a shot...............no one will miss you over here.
 

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I think they had to give up more picks because of Goffs contract.

At least that's what i've heard.
From your contacts within the organization? Kidding. You knew i was gonna say that brother lol. Yeah it makes sense. But lets not forget that Detroit hates Jerry. Well the entire NFL does. So I think we probably would have had to trade the same if not very similar package for Stafford.
 

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From your contacts within the organization? Kidding. You knew i was gonna say that brother lol. Yeah it makes sense. But lets not forget that Detroit hates Jerry. Well the entire NFL does. So I think we probably would have had to trade the same if not very similar package for Stafford.

It would not have been worth it.

I'd rather just draft a QB than give up what they did for Stafford.

I'd rather draft a QB then sign ourselves into mediocrity with Dak.

Dak & Stafford have both proven they aren't good enough to carry a roster. The Rams may be good for a year or 2 but giving up all of those picks will catch up.
 

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It would not have been worth it.

I'd rather just draft a QB than give up what they did for Stafford.

I'd rather draft a QB then sign ourselves into mediocrity with Dak.

Dak & Stafford have both proven they aren't good enough to carry a roster. The Rams may be good for a year or 2 but giving up all of those picks will catch up.
I told you I am not arguing about this subject anymore. You have your view and I have mine. If we sign dak we have a 2 year window to draft defence. If we dont and draft a QB, we have the possibility of not being relevant for 4 years or longer if we dont hit on him. So it is what it is
 

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More lies and dumb analysis. Delete your account. You dont belong on a football forum or on a Cowboys fan forum. Go on over to an Eagles forum, I have no doubt they will laugh you off the board over there even with the dumb things you say about Dak.

Eagles fans no doubt have more respect for out top 5 QB then a troll like you does. Eagles fans clearly arent as dumb as some fan are on here. Give it a shot...............no one will miss you over here.

Lol. I have been reading your dumb takes on things for years now. You have actively made the cowboys fanbase both dumber and more divided. Whenever anyone questions your moronic takes on . . . well . .. everything, you respond with insults.

Just go away. . . and maybe get some professional help.

and no, Dak isn't a top 5 QB. No serious football fan believes that. He finished 11th in passer rating this year and had a losing record. You are only saying that to get a rise out of people and everyone sees you for the troll that you are.
 

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ALMOST makes me wonder if Dak wants to be here if he keeps pushing this 3 or 4 year crap. He fully is aware that a 3 year deal would cripple us. Seems like a power play by a vengeful agent....not Dak.
I don’t he’s ask for 3 years
From what I’ve read he wanted 4 and team wanted 5
I get why each want what they want
Dak wants another shot at FA while he’s in his prime
Jerry want the years to spread out the cost and make early years cheaper
 

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That’s disrespectful to think they are even in the same level but both time the defense failed not Dak.
Don’t ever forget that every time Brady won because he always had top 15 defense.


Yep -- all that, a great coach and an extremely weak division to win in. ;)
 

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Lol. I have been reading your dumb takes on things for years now. You have actively made the cowboys fanbase both dumber and more divided. Whenever anyone questions your moronic takes on . . . well . .. everything, you respond with insults.

Just go away. . . and maybe get some professional help.

and no, Dak isn't a top 5 QB. No serious football fan believes that. He finished 11th in passer rating this year and had a losing record. You are only saying that to get a rise out of people and everyone sees you for the troll that you are.

LOL..............So you have read how dead on I have been about Dak, Garrett, Zeke, Taco, Dalton ect....ect....

Maybe you should listen to you bettors. You might actually learn something. Probably too dumb to do that.
 
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