What makes me chuckle about the QB situation

[ABQCOWBOY]

I don't know why Romo has to be brought into the discussion always. In my opinion, Romo was a better passer, Dak is a better runner. But Dak is the current QB1 and faces the same scrutiny as all QB1's face who play for the Cowboys.

I want a championship team. They cost money. I don't see how paying the QB 15% of the cap gets you there, just like all the other teams who have recently paid these ridiculous amounts to less than elite QBs. They are going nowhere, just watch.

I guess, for the same reason that people who support Dak, bring him up and say, "You payed Romo" as justification as to why the team needs to fork over 40 mil AAV.

Sam reason Troy was always brought up when anybody ever discussed Romo.

 

[Ranched]

The Cowboys continue to insist that they’ll keep Dak on the team. He holds even more cards than he did a year ago, given that it will cost the Cowboys $37.4 million to use the franchise tag on Dak again, in cash and cap space. For 2022, the franchise-tag number for Dak would spike to $53.856 million. Keep dragging it out Jerry lol.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Yet he was already an infinitely better quarterback.

Keep spinning, Skippy.

If you say so....He was incredibly reckless with the football but ok

 

[gjkoeppen]

30 million a year? That was a “reasonable deal”?

Two years ago, ya that was a reasonable offer. Players demand high teams offer lower, but back then that would have made Prescott the 4 highest paid QB and without getting past the divisional round after just 3 years ya that was reasonable.
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[TheMarathonContinues]

Two years ago, ya that was a reasonable offer. Players demand high teams offer lower, but back then that would have made Prescott the 4 highest paid QB and without getting past the divisional round after just 3 years ya that was reasonable.
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Yeah 30 million a year was never reasonable as you can see by what Goff and Wentz got right afterwards. Rather insulting actually. If that was the deal the yes they played themselves because now if they want him it will be more than that.

 

[CWR]

I don't know why Romo has to be brought into the discussion always. In my opinion, Romo was a better passer, Dak is a better runner. But Dak is the current QB1 and faces the same scrutiny as all QB1's face who play for the Cowboys.

I want a championship team. They cost money. I don't see how paying the QB 15% of the cap gets you there, just like all the other teams who have recently paid these ridiculous amounts to less than elite QBs. They are going nowhere, just watch.

Thats pretty fair imo. The problem though, is that without a true franchise QB your odds of winning anything are significantly less. These guys are so difficult to find I cant imagine letting one in his prime, walk through the doors. The money spent towards Dak is good money. The problem is the other players who have been paid and aren't producing to the level their salary merits. I still don't believe that means you blow it all up. After last off season our roster was supposed to be locked and loaded to make a run. Which makes me think (hope) we can add a handful of defenders and still be one of the more talented teams top to bottom. In any case if we do part ways with Dak we must find a way to receive compensation. The only scenario I can not tolerate is losing him, without compensation.

 

[gjkoeppen]

Yeah 30 million a year was never reasonable as you can see by what Goff and Wentz got right afterwards. Rather insulting actually. If that was the deal the yes they played themselves because now if they want him it will be more than that.

You're talking about the first 2 picks in the draft and then a 4th rounder. Even sportswriters brought that up. Right now I think Prescott is clearly better than both of those but after the 2018 season Goff and Wentz were on teams that went to the Super Bowl. Wentz got a contract for 32 mil and Goff got one for 33 mil so based on those two going 1 and 2 in the same draft Prescott went in the 4th round, yes 30 mil for Prescott was a fair offer.
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[TheMarathonContinues]

You're talking about the first 2 picks in the draft and then a 4th rounder. Even sportswriters brought that up. Right now I think Prescott is clearly better than both of those but after the 2018 season Goff and Wentz were on teams that went to the Super Bowl. Wentz got a contract for 32 mil and Goff got one for 33 mil so based on those two going 1 and 2 in the same draft Prescott went in the 4th round, yes 30 mil for Prescott was a fair offer.
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Draft status has absolutely nothing to do with the contracts those guys got. Sportswriters have no idea what they're talking about if they said that. You can't use that "Super Bowl" argument when Wentz didn't play in the playoffs. You can use it for Goff but anyone with eyes and a mind knows he was along for the ride I mean the Rams even admitted as much by letting him go.

30 million was not fair and that's why he didn't accept it and that's why the Cowboys offered it. They tried to Jaylon Smith him and Jay Ratliff him.....but naw you can't do that with quarterback.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Draft status has absolutely nothing to do with the contracts those guys got. Sportswriters have no idea what they're talking about if they said that. You can't use that "Super Bowl" argument when Wentz didn't play in the playoffs. You can use it for Goff but anyone with eyes and a mind knows he was along for the ride I mean the Rams even admitted as much by letting him go.

30 million was not fair and that's why he didn't accept it and that's why the Cowboys offered it. They tried to Jaylon Smith him and Jay Ratliff him.....but naw you can't do that with quarterback.

If anything, that's a reason WHY Dak SHOULD be paid more than Wentz and Goff. They were drafted ahead of Dak, yet Dak has outperformed BOTH of them. Thus, $30 mil is garbage compared to the $33-35 mil that Wentz and Goff are getting paid. Dak should be getting about $35-37mil.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Thats pretty fair imo. The problem though, is that without a true franchise QB your odds of winning anything are significantly less. These guys are so difficult to find I cant imagine letting one in his prime, walk through the doors. The money spent towards Dak is good money. The problem is the other players who have been paid and aren't producing to the level their salary merits. I still don't believe that means you blow it all up. After last off season our roster was supposed to be locked and loaded to make a run. Which makes me think (hope) we can add a handful of defenders and still be one of the more talented teams top to bottom. In any case if we do part ways with Dak we must find a way to receive compensation. The only scenario I can not tolerate is losing him, without compensation.

Are they?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

If anything, that's a reason WHY Dak SHOULD be paid more than Wentz and Goff. They were drafted ahead of Dak, yet Dak has outperformed BOTH of them. Thus, $30 mil is garbage compared to the $33-35 mil that Wentz and Goff are getting paid. Dak should be getting about $35-37mil.

This, to me, is completely wrong. To me, this only shows why you don't do deals like the ones Philly and the Rams did. BTW, same agent, both of those guys.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

This, to me, is completely wrong. To me, this only shows why you don't do deals like the ones Philly and the Rams did. BTW, same agent, both of those guys.

Oh? Their agents are Todd France too? I didn't know that.

 

[Romotil45]

Look, when it comes to what Dak should be paid or what he shouldn't...its irrelevant. ITs about what the Cowboys are willing to pay him. And he's going to get paid. I get the logic behind what you're saying. He's coming off a injury....he should play on a friendly deal...in a perfect world he gives us a home discount.

But let's real discuss the topic at hand here.......

This deal should've been done long ago. Dak should've been re-signed before Wentz and Goff. They didn't do it so now they pay for it. In the NFL or sports for the matter you don't get rewarded for incompetence. You rarely do. So the Cowboys screwed up on not signing him earlier? They have to pay that price now or let him walk. ITs that simple. There's no easier way to do this or no cheaper.

There is a easier way. Sign Dalton to a team friendly deal. Tag Dak again and trade him. Use that draft capital to draft a young QB with potential and and draft heavy on defense.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Didn’t you hear Dak walks on water and turns water into wine. Let’s pay him 50 million a year for 5 years and get ahead of the curve. Hopefully he can deliver another play off win in that time.

100 million a year for 10 years....1 billion $ baby and he is worth every gimp penny out there!

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Oh? Their agents are Todd France too? I didn't know that.

No, it's Ryan Tollner, Rep1Sports. Both Wentz and Goff, as well as Roethlisberger, are represented by that agent and agency.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

No, it's Ryan Tollner, Rep1Sports. Both Wentz and Goff, as well as Roethlisberger, are represented by that agent and agency.

Oooooh, ok! Still, I think $35-37 mil is reasonable for Dak. Especially with the QB market and with him being one of the top QBs in the league.

 

[Reverend Conehead]

Finally someone’s looking at Daks injury realistically.
This wasn’t a sprained ankle!! You don’t just wrap this kind of injury w/ice, rest it & it’s like new again a few weeks later. When your foot is pointing the wrong direction.....your in for some serious surgery & long term rehab.....we have no idea how Daks foot is gonna hold up in the short term or long term & you can bet that’s gonna be REALLY DAMN IMPORTANT To JJ Before He Decides On How Big Of A Number To Put On Daks Contract (And If There’s Any Doubts In JJ’s Mind About Daks Foot/Ankle....Dak And The Rest Of Us Can Forget About That Contract Completely)

Thanks for the common sense. It is NOT Dak hating to wonder if he'll come back from this injury good as new. He might be. Or he might not be the same anymore. That's why I want the team to draft a QB and let them compete in training camp. If Dak is back in top form and wins the starting job, great. On the other hand, if the new guy wins the starting job, then that's whom you go with. It's a meritocracy. That's how Dak won the job from Romo. He came in and played way better than expected and earned the starting job. In football, you can't be sentimental. You go with whomever gives you the best chance to win right then. That's not hating on Dak any more than it was hating on Romo back in 2016 if you said the team should keep letting Dak start even though Romo was healthy again.

 

[Swagger]

Yeah 30 million a year was never reasonable as you can see by what Goff and Wentz got right afterwards. Rather insulting actually. If that was the deal the yes they played themselves because now if they want him it will be more than that.

Insulting? The other two Quarterbacks played for teams that reached the Superbowl. I appreciate that a QB cannot completely carry a team to a Superbowl as evidenced by Aaron Rodgers but he has still taken a few fairly rank teams to the NFC Championship games. Prescott hasn't played on a bad team excluding this season where he was injured any way.

In the modern game a QB will execute some difficult throws at some point to help their team reach a Superbowl - whether that's during the regular season to help the team finish with a higher seeding and/or in the play offs itself.

Further, at the time the contracts were offered Wentz and Goff were in a far better place than they are now e.g. Wentz actually had an o line.

 

[Swagger]

Finally someone’s looking at Daks injury realistically.
This wasn’t a sprained ankle!! You don’t just wrap this kind of injury w/ice, rest it & it’s like new again a few weeks later. When your foot is pointing the wrong direction.....your in for some serious surgery & long term rehab.....we have no idea how Daks foot is gonna hold up in the short term or long term & you can bet that’s gonna be REALLY DAMN IMPORTANT To JJ Before He Decides On How Big Of A Number To Put On Daks Contract (And If There’s Any Doubts In JJ’s Mind About Daks Foot/Ankle....Dak And The Rest Of Us Can Forget About That Contract Completely)

Is he even walking normally and with ease yet?

That's not a cheap shot but a genuine question. Not long until the draft.

 

[ondaedg]

Dak plays offense. I guess your tired of looking dumb?

Only at the Cowboyszone is it the QB’s fault that we had one of the worst defenses in nfl history. Or we were dead last in takeaways since 2010. Or that we haven’t had a kick return for a touchdown in eleven years. Ahh hell covid is Dak’s fault too!